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Let's not forget about trusts! The ultra-wealthy use complex trust structures to transfer wealth across generations while minimizing estate and gift taxes. Grantor Retained Annuity Trusts (GRATs) and Intentionally Defective Grantor Trusts (IDGTs) can transfer massive appreciation to heirs tax-free. Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos, and many others reportedly use these. The "step-up in basis" at death is another huge advantage - billions in capital gains can completely escape taxation when assets are passed to heirs.
Can regular people use these trust strategies too or do you need millions to make them worthwhile? I'm nowhere near wealthy but always curious about legitimate tax planning.
The basic concepts can apply to anyone, but the complexity and setup costs make them impractical unless you have significant assets. Most specialized trusts require attorneys with expertise in estate planning, which can cost thousands just to establish. For regular folks, maxing out retirement accounts, using 529 plans for education, and strategic timing of capital gains are more accessible strategies. The ultra-wealthy are playing a different game entirely because the tax code has different rules once you reach certain wealth thresholds.
Y'all are forgetting the biggest one - citizenship renunciation. Billionaires like Eduardo Saverin (Facebook co-founder) have literally given up US citizenship to avoid capital gains taxes. The US is one of the only countries that taxes citizens on worldwide income regardless of where they live.
But don't they hit you with a massive exit tax when you renounce? I thought there was a one-time tax on all your assets as if you sold everything the day you renounce.
Yes, there is an exit tax, but for billionaires it can still be worth it in the long run. The exit tax treats you as if you sold all your assets on the day before expatriation, so you pay capital gains on unrealized appreciation. However, if you're young and expect decades more of wealth growth, paying that one-time tax can save massive amounts compared to lifetime US tax obligations. Plus, some wealthy individuals structure their affairs so that much of their future wealth appreciation happens through entities established after expatriation, potentially minimizing what's subject to the exit tax. It's incredibly complex and requires years of planning, but for those with hundreds of millions or billions, the math can work out favorably.
If all else fails and your payment does get rejected, don't forget you can always make an immediate payment through IRS Direct Pay on their website. That way you minimize any potential penalties. Just go to https://www.irs.gov/payments/direct-pay and you can make a one-time payment from your checking account (with the correct number!) right away.
I went through something similar a few months ago and can share what worked for me. The key is acting fast since you still have time before the payment processes. First, definitely call your credit union tomorrow morning like Michael suggested - since both accounts are there, they might be able to redirect the payment internally. That's honestly your best bet for a quick fix. If that doesn't work, you have two main backup options: 1. Try calling the IRS at 888-353-4537 (this is specifically for the Electronic Federal Tax Payment System). I found this number gets you through faster than the general 800 number everyone calls. 2. If you can't get through to the IRS by phone, you can also send a written request to cancel the payment. Send it certified mail to: Internal Revenue Service, Stop 5735, Kansas City, MO 64999. Include your SSN, tax year, payment amount, scheduled date, and explain the account number error. The good news is that even if the payment gets rejected, you won't face immediate penalties as long as you make the corrected payment within about 10 days of getting the rejection notice. But definitely try the credit union route first since that's your easiest solution! Keep us posted on how it goes - this info could help other people in similar situations.
Just FYI - my wife had to file for disability a few years back. You CANNOT be claimed as a dependent by your spouse, regardless of income. Spouses file either jointly or separately, but never as dependents. The only question is whether to file jointly or separately once you get your back pay. In our case, filing jointly was still better even with the lump sum payment.
This is correct. I'm a tax preparer and see this confusion often. Spouses are never dependents, period. The only question is joint vs separate filing.
Hi Kayla! I went through this exact situation a couple years ago. Like others have said, you definitely can't be claimed as your husband's dependent - that's just not how it works for married couples. What I learned from my experience: file jointly for sure. Even with zero income on your side, the joint filing will give you better tax benefits. The standard deduction alone makes it worth it. One thing to prepare for though - when your disability gets approved (fingers crossed!), those back payments can create a bit of a tax surprise. I got a lump sum that covered 18 months of back pay, and even though it was all legitimate disability income, it still pushed us into a higher bracket that year. My advice is to start setting aside maybe 15-20% of any back payments you might receive for taxes, just to be safe. Better to have extra money than to owe the IRS come tax time! Good luck with your claim - the waiting is the hardest part, but hang in there!
Has anyone mentioned how the spouse's immigration status affects this? My wife was on a student visa when we got married and we had issues with taxes because she didn't have a SSN yet.
Your spouse needs either an SSN or ITIN to file taxes. If they're waiting for a work permit, they should apply for an ITIN using Form W-7. You can submit this with your tax return or get help from a Certified Acceptance Agent who can verify documents. I went through this with my husband from Colombia. The ITIN process took about 8 weeks but we filed an extension to give us time. Once we had the ITIN, we filed jointly and it was much better tax-wise than filing separately.
I went through a very similar situation with my parents when I got married. The key thing to understand is that your father's accountant might be confusing two different tax benefits: 1. **Claiming you as a dependent** - This is NOT possible if you're married filing jointly. Period. The IRS is crystal clear on this in Publication 501. 2. **Education tax credits** - Your father CAN still potentially claim these for tuition he paid directly to your school, even without claiming you as a dependent. Here's what I'd recommend: - Show your father IRS Publication 501 (specifically the "Joint Return Test" section) - Suggest he ask his accountant about claiming education credits instead of trying to claim you as a dependent - File your joint return first to avoid complications if your father tries to claim you incorrectly Regarding your spouse's situation - definitely get that ITIN application started ASAP. You can file for an extension while waiting for it to process. Filing jointly will almost certainly be more beneficial than filing separately, especially since your spouse has freelance income that you've been managing together. Don't let family pressure you into making the wrong tax decision. The rules are clear, and you're absolutely right to push back on this.
CyberNinja
Just a heads up - if you do decide to report this income next year instead of this year, be aware that the company might issue a 1099 for the current year even though you earned the money in 2022. If that happens, you'll need to explain the situation if the IRS questions the discrepancy. Generally, it's best to report income in the year you receive it if you're a cash-basis taxpayer (which most individuals are).
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Isabella Santos
ā¢That's a good point I hadn't considered. So there's a chance the company will issue a 1099 for tax year 2023 or whenever I actually get paid, even though the work was done in 2022?
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CyberNinja
ā¢Exactly. Companies issue 1099s for the calendar year in which they made the payment, not when the work was performed. So if you get paid in 2023, you'll get a 1099 for tax year 2023, even though you did the work in 2022. This actually works in your favor in terms of timing, since you want to handle this separately from your parents' filing. Just be aware that from the IRS perspective, you report the income in the year you receive it (assuming you're a cash-basis taxpayer, which almost all individuals are).
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Jackie Martinez
As someone who's dealt with similar timing issues on contractor income, I'd recommend keeping detailed records of when you actually performed the work versus when you receive payment. The IRS generally follows the cash method for individuals, so you'll report the income when you actually receive it, not when you earned it. One thing to consider - since you're making $95k at your regular job, this additional $850 will be taxed at your marginal rate (likely 22% federal) plus the 15.3% self-employment tax, so set aside roughly $300-350 to cover the tax liability when you do receive the payment. Also, don't forget that you'll need to make quarterly estimated tax payments if this pushes your total tax liability over $1,000 for the year you receive it. The IRS gets grumpy about underpayment penalties, even on relatively small amounts.
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