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Dont forget state taxes too!!!1! Depending what state ur in u might owe state tax even if u avoid federal. I did a rollover in NJ and still had to pay 3% to the state even tho I avoided federal tax. Check ur state rules!!!
This is really state-specific though. I did an annuity rollover in Texas last year and there was no state tax since TX doesn't have income tax. But good point for people in states with income tax!
Your right about it being state specific! I shouldve been more clear. States like TX, FL, WY, etc with no income tax wont have this issue. But many states have weird rules that dont perfectly match federal treatment. My buddy in CA did a rollover and thought he was good but ended up with a surprise state tax bill!
This is really helpful advice everyone! I'm definitely going to look into the direct trustee-to-trustee transfer option first since that seems like the safest route to avoid the 20% withholding issue. One question - does anyone know if there are restrictions on what type of retirement account I can roll the annuity into? Like, can I move it into a Roth IRA if I'm willing to pay the taxes now, or does it have to stay in a traditional pre-tax account? I'm wondering if this might actually be a good opportunity to do a Roth conversion while I'm in a relatively lower tax bracket in my 30s. Also going to check out that taxr.ai tool to make sure I understand exactly what I'm dealing with before making any moves. Really don't want to mess this up!
Whatever you do, DON'T fall for any scams promising to get your refund faster. Stick to official IRS channels only!
This exact thing happened to me last year! Here's what worked for me: First, definitely check the "Where's My Refund" tool like Samantha mentioned - it might give you specific info about what went wrong. Then when you call the IRS (and yes, the wait times are brutal), have these ready: - Your SSN - The exact routing number you entered (even though it's wrong) - The correct routing number for your account - Your tax return confirmation number if you have it The agent will likely need to issue a "refund trace" which can take 6-8 weeks like Megan mentioned. But the good news is you WILL get your money eventually! The IRS doesn't just keep it. Stay patient and document everything - dates you called, reference numbers, etc. Good luck Connor! š¤
The W-4 situation is even more messed up since they redesigned the form in 2020. My accountant told me that for couples with multiple income sources, the simplest approach is often: 1. Both check the box in Step 2(c) for slightly higher withholding 2. Add an additional fixed dollar amount in Step 4(c) 3. Make quarterly estimated payments for any 1099/rental income Has anyone actually had success with the Two-Earner/Multiple Jobs worksheet? It seems overly complicated.
The Two-Earner worksheet actually worked great for my wife and me once we figured it out. We both have similar salaries though ($70k and $75k), so maybe that's why. The trick was that we only filled out the extra withholding on ONE of our W-4 forms, not both. When we did both, we were massively overwithholding.
Having dealt with a very similar situation (multiple W-2s, rental income, and freelance work), I can definitely relate to the frustration with getting wildly different results from various calculators. One thing that really helped me was realizing that the online IRS calculator doesn't handle multiple income streams very well - it's really designed for simpler situations. What ended up working for me was a hybrid approach: 1. Used the paper Two-Jobs Worksheet for my main W-2 jobs (like others mentioned, only apply the extra withholding to ONE job, not both) 2. Set up quarterly estimated payments for all non-W-2 income (1099-NEC and rental) - I use about 28% of that income as a starting point 3. Added a small buffer ($30/paycheck) in Step 4(c) to account for any miscalculations The quarterly payments were a game-changer for me. Trying to cover everything through W-4 withholding was making the calculations way too complex and unreliable. Once I separated the W-2 withholding from the self-employment/rental tax obligations, everything became much more manageable. Also, don't forget that rental income might qualify for the Section 199A deduction, which could affect your overall tax liability and withholding needs.
The IRS systems r so broken its actually hilarious. Why cant they just let us add forms after submission like normal people š¤®
This happened to me two years ago! The rejection came back in about 36 hours, and then I had to wait another 3 weeks for processing after resubmitting with the correct forms. Definitely frustrating, but at least you caught it early. Make sure your preparer double-checks everything before resubmitting - you don't want to go through this twice!
Andre Dubois
Something to also consider - check if your 1099-R has a distribution code in Box 7. If it shows code "G" that indicates a direct rollover to a qualified plan, which helps the IRS systems understand it was non-taxable. If it has a different code, you definitely need to amend and provide documentation explaining the rollover.
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Sean Murphy
ā¢Just checked and yes it does have code G in Box 7! Does that mean the IRS might not flag it at all? Or do I still need to file an amendment anyway to be safe?
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Andre Dubois
ā¢Even with code G, you should still file an amendment. While the code does indicate to the IRS that it was a direct rollover, their matching systems will still flag that you received a 1099-R that wasn't reported on your return. Filing the amendment now is mostly about keeping your records complete and accurate. It also prevents you from receiving a notice from the IRS later. The IRS computers are primarily checking that all forms issued with your SSN appear somewhere on your tax return - they don't automatically understand that you just forgot to include it rather than intentionally omitting it.
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Ava Rodriguez
I went through something very similar with a 401k-to-IRA rollover I missed on my return. One thing that helped me was creating a timeline of events to include with my amendment - dates of the original 401k distribution, when the funds were received by the new IRA custodian, and confirmation that no funds were ever distributed to me personally. Also, if you haven't already, contact both your old employer's plan administrator and your new IRA custodian to get written confirmation that this was a direct trustee-to-trustee transfer. Some custodians will provide a letter specifically for tax purposes that clearly states the rollover was completed according to IRS regulations. Having that documentation attached to your amendment makes it crystal clear to the IRS that this was a non-taxable event. The peace of mind from getting this handled properly is worth the small effort of filing the amendment now rather than potentially dealing with IRS notices later.
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