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19 Has anyone actually been audited specifically about a Section 179 vehicle deduction? I'm worried I'll do all this work and still get flagged.
19 That's really helpful to know, especially about the daily logs. Did they want to see anything else besides the mileage documentation? I'm wondering what else I should be tracking to be safe.
They also wanted to see receipts for all business-related expenses (gas, maintenance, insurance), photos of the vehicle configured for business use, and documentation of my actual business activities that required the vehicle. They cross-referenced my claimed business trips with my invoices and client records to verify the trips were legitimate. The auditor was particularly interested in weekend and evening usage - make sure you can justify any business use during "personal" hours with actual work documentation like delivery receipts or client communications.
This is really comprehensive advice everyone! As someone who just went through this process with my Honda Pilot, I wanted to add that the IRS also looks closely at the timing of when you place the vehicle "in service" for business use. Make sure you have documentation showing the exact date you started using it for business - this could be your first business trip, when you installed business equipment, or when you modified the seating configuration. The Section 179 deduction is only available for the tax year when you place it in service, so if you buy in December but don't start business use until January, you might have to wait until the following year's return. Also, keep copies of your financing or lease agreements if applicable - the IRS sometimes wants to verify the actual purchase price and terms to ensure your deduction amount is correct. I learned this the hard way when I had to scramble to find my loan paperwork during a records review.
That's a great point about the "in service" date! I hadn't thought about how the timing could affect which tax year you claim the deduction. For someone like me who's planning to buy in late 2024, would it make sense to wait until January to start using it for business if I want to claim it on my 2025 return? Or is there an advantage to claiming it sooner? Also, regarding the financing documentation - did they specifically ask about the interest rates or loan terms, or were they just verifying the purchase price? I'm considering financing vs. cash purchase and wondering if one method creates less paperwork headaches down the road.
Does anyone know if there's a minimum filing requirement even if you have no income? Like if OP really did just sit on the cash and earned zero interest (bad idea but hypothetically), would they still have to file a return every year showing $0 income?
If you have no income whatsoever, you're generally not required to file a tax return. The IRS has minimum filing requirements based on filing status, age, and income. For example, a single person under 65 in 2025 would only need to file if they had gross income of at least $13,850. If you literally had $0 income for the year, you wouldn't be required to file. However, there can be reasons to file even with no income, such as claiming refundable credits or getting a refund of withheld taxes.
Thanks for clarifying that. It's good to know there's an actual threshold and not just some requirement to file every year regardless of income. I was always told "everyone has to file taxes" but I guess that's not technically true!
One important thing to keep in mind is that even though you won't owe taxes on the principal amount sitting in your account, you'll want to keep good records of your lottery winnings and the taxes you already paid. The IRS might ask for documentation years later, so make sure you have copies of your lottery payout statements, tax withholding forms, and the tax return where you reported the winnings. Also, if you're planning to live off this money for years, consider that $3.8 million might not last as long as you think, especially with inflation. Even without earning interest, your purchasing power decreases over time. You might want to at least put some of it in Treasury I-bonds or TIPS (Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities) to maintain your buying power while still keeping things relatively simple from a tax perspective.
This is really solid advice about keeping records! I hadn't thought about the IRS potentially asking for documentation years down the line. Do you know how long they can go back and ask for proof of the original lottery winnings and taxes paid? Is there a statute of limitations on that kind of thing, or should I plan to keep those documents forever? Also, the point about inflation is eye-opening. I was so focused on not losing money through bad investments that I didn't consider how much purchasing power I'd lose just by letting it sit. Those Treasury I-bonds sound interesting - are those pretty straightforward to set up, and do they have any weird tax implications I should know about?
I went through EXACTLY this last year! Turns out the IRS system had flagged me because someone with a similar name and SSN (just one digit off) had Marketplace coverage. The fastest solution was to paper file my return with a written statement explaining I didn't have Marketplace coverage and including proof of my other coverage (I attached a copy of my insurance card and a benefits statement). Yeah it's annoying because paper filing means waiting longer for your refund, but it got processed eventually. Whatever you do, don't just ignore the rejection - the IRS computers will keep expecting that Form 8962 until the issue is resolved.
Paper filing is such a pain though. Did you ever try calling the IRS? I've heard if you call right when they open at 7am, the wait times are much shorter. Seems better than waiting months for a paper return to process.
This exact thing happened to me two years ago! The IRS rejection was super confusing because I was also on my parents' employer insurance and had never even heard of Form 8962. Here's what I learned: The IRS database sometimes has glitches where SSNs get mixed up or incorrectly flagged. Since you were on your parents' plan (not Marketplace insurance), this is almost certainly a system error. My advice: 1. Confirm with your parents they had employer insurance, not Marketplace 2. If confirmed, call the IRS at 1-800-829-1040 first thing in the morning (7 AM) when wait times are shorter 3. Have your SSN, rejection notice, and tax return ready 4. Explain you were covered by employer insurance, not Marketplace insurance 5. Ask them to check their records and remove the Form 8962 requirement from your account The agent should be able to see the error and fix it so you can e-file normally. If phone wait times are too long, paper filing with an explanation letter works too, but takes way longer to process. Don't stress too much - this is more common than you'd think and it's totally fixable!
Thanks for sharing your experience! The 7 AM tip is really helpful - I had no idea the wait times were shorter then. I'm definitely going to try calling first thing tomorrow morning. Quick question - when you called, did they fix it immediately or did you have to wait for some kind of update to their system? And did you need any specific documentation beyond what you mentioned? I want to make sure I have everything ready when I call. Really appreciate you taking the time to explain this. It's so reassuring to know other people have dealt with this exact same issue!
I went through this exact same situation about 8 months ago! Got my CP23 notice and panicked thinking I'd never filed my 2021 return (turns out I had but it got lost in the mail). Filed electronically immediately and my refund was released exactly 6 weeks later. The electronic filing definitely speeds things up compared to paper. One thing that helped me stay sane during the wait was checking my transcript weekly instead of obsessing over the "Where's My Refund" tool. You'll see way more detail about what's actually happening with your case. The codes can be confusing but once you learn what to look for, it's much more informative than the generic "still processing" message. Since you only owe $375, that shouldn't complicate things - they'll likely just send you a separate bill for that amount. Good luck and try not to stress too much, it sounds like you did everything right!
Thanks for sharing your experience! That's really reassuring to hear from someone who went through the exact same thing. I was definitely panicking when I first got the notice, but sounds like filing electronically was the right move. I'll definitely start checking my transcript weekly like you suggested - the "Where's My Refund" tool is pretty useless right now. Six weeks feels like forever when you're waiting but at least I know there's light at the end of the tunnel!
I had almost the exact same situation happen to me last year! Got my CP23 notice for my 2021 return and immediately filed electronically. The whole process took about 5 weeks from filing to getting my refund deposited. The key thing is that since you filed electronically, the IRS can process it much faster than a paper return. Also, the fact that you only owe $375 actually works in your favor - they'll likely just send you a separate notice for that amount rather than holding up your refund to collect it. My advice is to create an account on irs.gov and check your transcript every Friday. Look for processing codes that show your return was accepted and then eventually the refund release codes. It's way more informative than the "Where's My Refund" tool which basically tells you nothing useful. The waiting is definitely nerve-wracking, but you did everything right by filing electronically right away. Hang in there!
Lauren Wood
just a heads up - i did an SS-8 filing last year and it took almost 9 months to get a determination letter! the irs is super backed up with these. definitely file your taxes now using form 8919 like others said. also make sure you keep copies of EVERYTHING. every email, every instruction they gave her, work schedule, etc. the more proof you have that they treated her like an employee the better.
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Ellie Lopez
•Did you get a favorable determination though? Was it worth the long wait?
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Isabella Oliveira
One more thing to consider - if this was a government agency, there's a good chance they have specific policies about contractor vs employee classification that they're supposed to follow. Federal agencies in particular have gotten in trouble for misclassifying workers to avoid paying benefits and taxes. You might want to look up whether this agency has had previous issues with worker misclassification. Sometimes there are patterns, and if the agency has been cited before, it could strengthen your case. The Government Accountability Office (GAO) has done reports on this issue across various federal agencies. Also, since you mentioned they haven't sent any tax documents yet, that's actually a red flag. Even if they classified her as a contractor, they're legally required to send a 1099-NEC by January 31st if they paid her more than $600. I'd follow up on that immediately - you'll need that information regardless of how you file. Good luck with the SS-8 process! It sounds like you have a strong case based on what you've described.
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Sean Matthews
•This is really helpful advice about checking for patterns of misclassification! I hadn't thought about looking into whether the agency has been cited before. Do you know if there's a specific database or website where we can search for GAO reports or other documentation about agency misclassification issues? It would be great to include that kind of information with our SS-8 filing if we can find it. Also, you're absolutely right about the missing 1099-NEC being a red flag. We're definitely going to contact them this week to get that sorted out. Thanks for the thorough advice!
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