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Just my two cents: I've used Jackson Hewitt, H&R Block, and Liberty Tax over the years and found they're all about the same. The quality really depends on the individual preparer you get. I've had good and terrible experiences with all of them. Now I just use TaxSlayer and do it myself. It's like $25 for federal and state combined if you have a simple return. Been using it for 3 years with no issues.
How user friendly is TaxSlayer? I'm not great with computers and that's honestly why I've kept going to in-person places despite the cost.
TaxSlayer is pretty straightforward. It asks you questions in plain English and fills in the forms based on your answers. You don't need to understand tax forms or be particularly tech-savvy. It saves your info from previous years, which makes it even easier after the first time. They also have phone support if you get stuck on something, but I've never needed to use it. The whole process usually takes me about 45 minutes for a basic return.
Pro tip: If you make under $60,000 a year, check if your city or community has a VITA (Volunteer Income Tax Assistance) program. IRS-certified volunteers will prepare your taxes for FREE. I volunteered with them for years and we helped thousands of people with basic returns just like yours.
This is great to know! I definitely make under that amount as a part-time worker. Do I need to bring anything special to a VITA appointment?
You'll want to bring your W-2, any 1098-E forms for student loan interest, a copy of last year's tax return if you have it, and a valid ID. Also bring your bank account info if you want direct deposit for your refund. The volunteers are really helpful and will double-check everything before filing. Since you mentioned you're a college student, they might also know about education credits you could qualify for that the Jackson Hewitt person missed!
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Quick tip: keep track of time spent developing too! Hours worked can help justify your business status to the IRS if they ever question whether your game dev is a hobby or a business. Hobbies have way fewer tax advantages than businesses.
Does anyone use any particular app to track development hours? I've been trying to find something that works well for game development specifically.
As someone who went through this exact situation two years ago, I want to emphasize something really important that might help reduce your stress: you're actually in a BETTER position by waiting until you turn 18 to cash out! Since you haven't converted your Robux to USD yet, you have more control over the timing and can plan better for taxes. I made the mistake of cashing out sporadically throughout the year without setting money aside, and it was a nightmare come tax season. Here's what I wish I'd known: Consider cashing out in smaller chunks rather than all at once, especially if $38k would push you into a higher tax bracket. You can also time it strategically - like cashing out some in December and some in January to split the income across two tax years. Also, start tracking your business expenses NOW before you cash out. Things like your computer setup, internet costs (business portion), any software subscriptions, even courses or books about game development - these can all be legitimate deductions that will reduce your taxable income significantly. The self-employment tax is the killer (15.3% on top of regular income tax), but proper expense tracking can really help offset that burden. You've got this!
This is such helpful advice! I'm actually in a similar situation but with a smaller amount (~$15k in Robux). The strategic timing idea is really smart - I hadn't thought about splitting across tax years. Quick question though - when you mention tracking business expenses "NOW," does that mean I can deduct expenses I incurred before actually cashing out? Like if I bought a new graphics card last month specifically for game development, can I still claim that even though I haven't converted any Robux to USD yet? Also, do you know if there's a minimum threshold where the IRS starts caring about hobby vs business classification? I'm trying to figure out if my smaller income level changes anything about how I should approach this.
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This entire thread perfectly captures the IRS frustration so many of us face! I've been battling a similar transcript delay for my refinance application, and reading through everyone's experiences has given me a comprehensive action plan. What strikes me most is how we've essentially had to crowdsource solutions to access basic government services. The fact that we need "secret codes" like not entering your SSN, specific calling times, third-party services, and congressional intervention just to get a simple document is pretty telling about the state of IRS customer service. I'm planning to try a multi-pronged approach based on this thread: early morning calls with the SSN trick, while simultaneously reaching out to the Taxpayer Advocate Service and my representative's office. The success stories here prove it's not hopeless - just requires the right combination of persistence and strategy. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and solutions. This kind of community knowledge-sharing is invaluable when dealing with bureaucratic nightmares. Hopefully more people find this thread when they're at their wit's end with the IRS!
Absolutely agree with your multi-pronged approach! What's really struck me reading through this thread is how the IRS system almost seems intentionally designed to make people give up. The fact that we need a whole community strategy guide just to access our own tax records is honestly pretty dystopian. I've been taking notes on all the different methods mentioned here - the early morning calls, the SSN trick, Taxpayer Advocate Service, congressional offices, and even those third-party services some people swear by. It's like we're all sharing intel on how to navigate a broken system. Your point about crowdsourcing solutions for basic government services really hits home. We shouldn't need to become experts in phone system hacks just to get a transcript, but here we are! At least this thread will hopefully save others from weeks of frustration by giving them a roadmap of what actually works. Keep us posted on how your multi-pronged approach goes - I think a lot of people would benefit from hearing which combination ends up being successful!
Just wanted to add another perspective as someone who works in the mortgage industry - if you're truly stuck and running out of time for your mortgage application, you might be able to get a temporary extension from your lender while you sort this out. Most lenders understand that IRS delays are beyond your control. Call your loan officer and explain the situation. They can often extend your rate lock or closing date by a week or two specifically for IRS-related delays. This takes some of the time pressure off so you can try these various strategies without panicking about missing your closing. Also, some lenders will accept a 4506-T form (Request for Transcript of Tax Return) as temporary documentation while you wait for the actual transcript. It shows you've made the request and are waiting on the IRS. Not all lenders accept this, but it's worth asking! Don't let the IRS bureaucracy derail your mortgage - there are usually workarounds on the lending side too while you fight the good fight to reach an actual human being!
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I'm an accountant and I made a simple Excel calculator for SEP IRA contributions for my clients. It's nothing fancy but it gets the job done. It includes the adjustment for self-employment tax and handles the circular calculation accurately. I'd be happy to share it if you DM me. No charge obviously, just pay it forward somehow!
Could you maybe explain how the circular calculation actually works? I've been trying to understand it but getting confused. Is it because the SEP contribution itself reduces the income that the 25% is based on?
Exactly right! The circular calculation happens because your SEP IRA contribution is technically a business deduction that reduces your net self-employment income, which in turn affects the base amount your 25% contribution limit is calculated on. So if you try to calculate it step by step: your contribution = 25% of (net SE income - SEP contribution). You can see the problem - you need to know the contribution amount to calculate the contribution amount! The IRS solves this with a specific formula that works out to approximately 20% of your Schedule C net profit for most people. Ruby's Excel calculator probably uses the exact IRS formula from Publication 560 to handle this automatically. It's one of those things that's way easier to let a calculator or software handle than to work through manually every time.
Just wanted to add another perspective here - if you're making $85k as a freelancer, you might also want to consider whether a Solo 401(k) could work better for you than a SEP IRA. With a Solo 401(k), you can contribute both as an employee ($23,000 for 2024) AND as an employer (up to 25% of compensation), potentially allowing higher total contributions. The downside is Solo 401(k)s have more administrative requirements, but for someone at your income level, the extra contribution room might be worth it. Most of the same financial institutions (Fidelity, Vanguard, etc.) offer Solo 401(k) calculators too if you want to compare the numbers. Just something to consider as you're figuring out your retirement strategy!
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Great question! I've been dealing with K-1s from real estate investments for a few years now, and there are definitely some nuances to understand beyond just the basic capital loss treatment. One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is the timing of when you receive your K-1. Real estate funds are notorious for issuing K-1s late in the tax season (sometimes requiring extensions), which can complicate your tax planning. Make sure you're prepared for potential filing extensions. Also, pay close attention to any Section 199A deductions that might flow through on the K-1. Real estate investments can qualify for the 20% qualified business income deduction, which can significantly reduce your tax liability on any income generated by the fund. Regarding your specific questions - yes, the capital losses can offset stock gains, and the carryforward rules apply the same way. Just remember that if this is a leveraged real estate fund, you'll need to track your basis carefully since debt increases your basis but losses reduce it. You can only claim losses up to your basis in the partnership. Before investing, I'd also ask the fund managers for their historical K-1s from other funds to see exactly what types of income and losses typically flow through. This will give you a much better picture of the tax implications than just their general descriptions.
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Maya Patel
•This is really helpful information, especially about the Section 199A deduction potential! I hadn't considered that real estate funds might qualify for the QBI deduction. One follow-up question about the basis tracking you mentioned - if the fund takes on additional debt during the investment period, does that automatically increase my basis, or do I need to do something specific to claim that basis increase? And how do I actually track this if the K-1 doesn't clearly show the debt changes from year to year? Also, great point about asking for historical K-1s from their other funds. That seems like something any legitimate fund manager should be willing to provide to help investors understand what they're getting into.
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Giovanni Rossi
•Great question about basis tracking! Yes, increases in partnership debt automatically increase your basis as a partner, but tracking it can be tricky since K-1s don't always show the year-over-year debt changes clearly. Most real estate funds will include supplemental information or footnotes on the K-1 that show your share of partnership liabilities at year-end. You'll want to compare this to the prior year to see the change. Some funds also provide a separate basis calculation worksheet that breaks down all the components - contributions, income, distributions, losses, and debt changes. If your fund doesn't provide clear basis tracking information, you should absolutely request it. This is critical information for determining how much of your losses you can actually claim. I've seen investors miss out on thousands in deductible losses simply because they didn't realize they had sufficient basis from debt increases. For the QBI deduction, it's worth noting that not all real estate activities qualify equally. The fund needs to be conducting an active trade or business (not just passive rental activities) to generate QBI. Ask the fund managers specifically about their QBI qualification and whether they expect to generate qualifying income versus non-qualifying investment income.
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Dmitry Kuznetsov
One thing I'd add that hasn't been fully addressed is the impact of state taxes on K-1 investments. Many real estate funds invest across multiple states, which means you might end up having to file tax returns in states where the fund owns properties, even if you've never set foot there. This can get expensive quickly - some states require non-resident filing even for small amounts of income, and you'll need to pay for tax prep in each state or learn their specific rules. I learned this the hard way when my first real estate fund investment resulted in filing requirements in 4 different states! Before investing, ask the fund managers which states they typically invest in and whether they have any policies to minimize multi-state filing requirements for investors. Some funds structure their investments through holding companies to reduce this burden, while others don't consider it at all. Also, don't forget about the Net Investment Income Tax (NIIT) - the 3.8% tax on investment income for higher earners. Any net income from the real estate fund will likely count toward this threshold, so factor that into your overall tax planning if you're in that income range. The complexity can definitely be worth it for the diversification and potential returns, but make sure you're budgeting for the additional tax compliance costs and complexities beyond just the federal treatment of the losses.
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Nia Thompson
•This multi-state filing issue is exactly why I've been hesitant to invest in real estate funds! I had no idea this could happen. Do you know if there's a minimum threshold for income that triggers filing requirements in most states? And when you say some funds structure through holding companies to avoid this - what should I specifically ask about when evaluating funds? Also, regarding the NIIT, does that apply to the capital losses too, or just when the fund generates positive income? I'm trying to understand if using these capital losses to offset my stock gains would also help reduce my exposure to the 3.8% tax. Thanks for bringing up these practical considerations that the fund managers definitely aren't highlighting in their pitch materials!
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Caleb Bell
•Great questions! State filing thresholds vary significantly, but many states require filing if you have ANY income sourced to that state from a partnership, regardless of amount. Some states like California and New York are particularly aggressive about this, while others might have small de minimis thresholds ($1,000-$5,000). When evaluating funds, specifically ask if they use "blocker corporations" or similar structures. Some funds will form a C-corp or LLC taxed as a corporation to hold the real estate investments, which prevents the multi-state income from flowing through directly to individual partners. The downside is you might lose some tax benefits, but it can eliminate the multi-state filing headache. Regarding NIIT, it's calculated on net investment income, so capital losses from the fund can indeed help offset other investment gains and reduce your NIIT exposure. If your fund losses offset stock gains, you're reducing the total investment income subject to the 3.8% tax. However, the $3,000 annual limit on excess capital losses against ordinary income still applies for NIIT purposes. You're absolutely right that fund managers don't highlight these compliance costs! I budget about $500-800 per additional state filing when evaluating whether a fund investment makes sense. Some investors end up spending more on tax prep than they save from the investment tax benefits.
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