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Peyton Clarke

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Has anyone considered that the difference might be employer-paid FICA taxes? Some companies pay the employee portion of Social Security and Medicare taxes as a benefit, which would be included in your taxable wages on the W2 but might not show up in your gross pay on paystubs.

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Vince Eh

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That's not how FICA taxes work. Employers always pay their OWN portion of FICA (which is equal to what employees pay), but that employer portion isn't included in your W2 wages. If an employer were paying the employee's portion too (which is super rare), it would actually show up as additional wages on your paystub. The most likely explanation is still employer-paid health insurance premiums or other pre-tax benefits that aren't included in the paystub YTD total but are captured in W2 Box 12.

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Andre Dupont

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I experienced this exact same issue and it drove me crazy for years! After digging deep into my paystubs and W2, I discovered the main culprit was employer-paid health insurance premiums that totaled about $5,200 annually. Here's what I learned: your paystub typically only shows YOUR contributions to benefits (the amount deducted from your paycheck), but your W2 includes the TOTAL value of certain benefits - including what your employer pays on your behalf. The key is looking at Box 12 on your W2 with different letter codes. Code "DD" shows employer-paid health insurance, which is often the biggest contributor to this discrepancy. These amounts are included in your total wages for tax reporting purposes but never appear in your regular paystub calculations. Other common contributors include employer HSA contributions, life insurance premiums over $50k, and certain fringe benefits like parking or transit passes. Even though you don't receive these as cash, they're considered part of your total compensation package. I'd recommend pulling out your W2 and paystub side by side and going through Box 12 line by line - you'll probably find your missing $6,500 right there!

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Sean O'Brien

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Your CPA is partially right but didn't give you the whole picture. Look into "special allocations" in partnerships. Section 704(b) of the tax code allows partnerships to allocate tax items differently than ownership percentages IF the allocation has "substantial economic effect." Maybe consider amending your operating agreement to formally recognize your sweat equity as equivalent to your partner's cash contributions? You could also adjust the agreement to get a larger share of future profits to compensate for not being able to use the losses now. And definitely get a second opinion from a different CPA! Not all accountants specialize in partnership taxation.

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Zara Shah

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Special allocations need to be clearly documented in the operating agreement BEFORE the tax year ends though, right? Can they still make this change for last year?

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Demi Hall

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This is a frustrating but common situation in service-based partnerships. Your CPA is correct about the basis limitation - you need basis to deduct losses, and sweat equity unfortunately doesn't count under IRS rules. However, I notice from the thread that you mentioned having a $15,000 business loan that you're both named on. This is key! If you're personally liable for that debt (not just as an LLC member), your 50% share ($7,500) would give you basis to claim some of your allocated losses. Here's what I'd recommend: 1. Verify if you're personally liable for that loan - check if you signed personal guarantees 2. Get a second CPA opinion, preferably someone who specializes in partnership taxation 3. Review your operating agreement to see if it addresses loss allocations and partner liabilities 4. Consider if there are other partnership debts you might be liable for The suspended losses aren't lost forever - they'll carry forward until you have sufficient basis. And if you do have basis from the loan, you could potentially claim $7,500 of your allocated losses this year. Don't just take one CPA's word on this - partnership taxation is complex and many generalist accountants don't deal with it regularly.

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Mohammed Khan

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I'm currently dealing with this exact situation - 570 code appeared 8 days ago, then 971 showed up 3 days later, both with $0.00. Reading through everyone's experiences here is incredibly reassuring! It sounds like this is much more common than I initially thought. What's really helping me is understanding that the zero dollar amounts are actually a good sign - means it's likely just procedural rather than them finding actual errors in my return. I'm going to wait another week or so before calling, based on what others have shared about the typical timeline. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - this community is so valuable when the IRS keeps us all in the dark!

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GalacticGuru

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You're absolutely right about this community being invaluable! I'm in a very similar boat - just got my 971 code yesterday after having the 570 for about a week. Reading everyone's experiences here has been such a relief compared to the vague information you get from the IRS website. It's really reassuring to see that most people are getting resolution within 2-3 weeks without having to do anything. I think I'll follow your approach and wait it out a bit longer before calling. Best of luck with your situation!

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Yara Abboud

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I'm going through this exact same situation right now! Got the 570 code about 6 days ago, and just noticed the 971 appeared yesterday - both showing $0.00 like everyone else is describing. This thread has been incredibly helpful because I was starting to panic thinking something was seriously wrong with my return. It's so frustrating that the IRS website and phone representatives give such inconsistent information about these codes. Based on what everyone is sharing here, it sounds like this is just part of their standard verification process this year, and most people are seeing resolution within 2-3 weeks. I'm definitely going to wait it out a bit longer before calling, especially after reading about the different experiences people had when they did call. Thanks to everyone for sharing your timelines and outcomes - it's such a relief to know this is normal and not some major red flag with my filing!

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I'm in the exact same boat as you! Got my 570 code about 5 days ago and the 971 just appeared this morning, also with $0.00. This thread has been a lifesaver - I was literally losing sleep over this thinking I'd made some terrible mistake on my return. It's so reassuring to see that this seems to be happening to a lot of people this year and that most are getting resolved without any action needed. The consistency of everyone's experiences (570 followed by 971, both with zero amounts, then resolution in 2-3 weeks) makes me feel so much better about just waiting it out. Thanks for posting about your situation - it helps to know we're all going through this together!

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I've worked in multiple states for years and here's my advice - document EVERYTHING. Keep all your pay stubs, take screenshots of your electronic ones, and make sure you understand which state taxes you're paying. Most mistakes with interstate work happen because people don't realize which state is getting their withholding. With reciprocity agreements you typically pay taxes to your home state, not where you work, but some employers mess this up.

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This is so true! My employer had me paying taxes to the wrong state for 3 months before I caught it. Do you recommend any specific way to organize all these documents?

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Aisha Rahman

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The stress you're feeling is completely normal - tax situations involving multiple states can be really confusing! From what you've described, it sounds like you're being very thorough in checking your work, which is exactly the right approach. One thing that might help ease your anxiety: the IRS processes over 150 million tax returns each year, and honest mistakes are incredibly common. The system is designed to handle errors, not punish people for them. Most mistakes result in simple notices asking for clarification or adjustment, not audits or legal trouble. For your reciprocity situation specifically, double-check that Box 17 (state tax withheld) on your W-2 matches what you expect based on your home state. If there's withholding from both states, you might need to file a nonresident return in the work state to get a refund, while reporting all income on your home state return. The key is responding promptly to any IRS correspondence and keeping good records of your income and withholding. Your careful attention to detail now will serve you well if any questions come up later. You've got this!

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RaΓΊl Mora

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This is such reassuring advice! I'm dealing with a similar multi-state situation and have been losing sleep over it. It's good to hear that the IRS really does understand these situations are confusing. I've been keeping detailed records but wasn't sure if that would actually matter if I made a mistake. Knowing that being thorough and responsive to any notices is what really counts makes me feel much better about the whole process. Sometimes you just need to hear that you're not going to end up in tax prison for an honest error!

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Ruby Knight

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According to IRS Publication 1544 and their published guidelines on refund processing, taxpayers have the right to inquire about the status of their refunds, but the challenge is actually reaching someone. The IRS Restructuring and Reform Act specifically acknowledges taxpayers' rights to quality service. Having spent 8+ years in tax resolution, I can confirm that the IRS phone system is intentionally difficult to navigate - it's designed to reduce call volume. Services that help you reach an actual human aren't just using auto-dialers; they're navigating the complex IRS phone tree and hold system. For many people, especially those who need their refund for urgent expenses, the time saved is well worth it.

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Aisha Patel

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I've actually gotten my refund 3 days early before! My transcript showed DDD of March 15th but I got it on March 12th. I use Navy Federal Credit Union and they're pretty good about releasing funds as soon as they receive them from the IRS. The waiting game is brutal though - I totally get checking your account every few minutes! Good luck with paying off that credit card, that's exactly what I did with mine last year. The peace of mind from being debt-free is amazing!

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