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Amina Diallo

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These codes got me stressing so hard I started dreaming in numbers 🤣 The IRS needs to make this stuff easier to understand for regular folks istg

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ong they do this on purpose to confuse us 🤔

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Ellie Lopez

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Been dealing with these codes for months and finally figured it out! Code 290 = they're adding tax/adjustments to your account (bad news usually), Code 291 = they're reducing/removing previous assessments (good news!). If you see both, it means they made an adjustment then partially or fully reversed it. The key is looking at the dates and amounts to see the timeline. Pro tip: the cycle dates next to these codes tell you when each action happened, so you can follow the story of what the IRS did to your return šŸ“Š

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Maya Patel

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This is a great point about framing the negotiation properly. I'd add that your friend should also consider the timing element here - if the business continues operating with losses, that sweat equity partner will keep receiving negative K-1s that could complicate their personal tax situation. Another angle to consider: since this partner never contributed cash, they likely don't have sufficient "basis" to deduct all the losses that have been allocated to them anyway. This means they may have suspended losses on their personal return that they can't currently use. A clean exit might actually be more valuable to them than continuing to accumulate unusable tax losses. Your friend might want to get a tax professional to calculate what the partner's actual tax basis is versus their capital account balance. These are often very different numbers, and the basis calculation might show that the partner's economic position isn't as strong as the capital account balance suggests. The key is documenting everything properly so the buyout is structured in a way that's defensible to the IRS and fair to all parties involved.

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This is exactly the kind of analysis that gets overlooked in these situations! The distinction between capital account balance and tax basis is crucial here. Most people assume they're the same, but they can diverge significantly, especially when losses exceed a partner's actual economic investment. For a sweat equity partner who never put in cash, their initial basis would typically be just the value of services they contributed (if any was recognized as income). All those allocated losses over the years may have created suspended losses they can't even use on their personal returns. Maya's point about timing is spot-on too. If the business keeps losing money, this partner will keep getting hit with K-1s showing more losses they probably can't deduct. A buyout that lets them exit cleanly - even for less than the "full" negative capital account - might actually improve their overall tax situation. Has anyone dealt with a situation where the suspended losses actually made the partner MORE willing to accept a lower buyout amount? I'm curious if that leverage point has been effective in similar negotiations.

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Ezra Beard

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I've dealt with this exact situation multiple times, and the suspended loss angle is absolutely critical leverage that most people miss. In one case, we had a sweat equity partner with a $85k negative capital account who was demanding full payment. When we calculated their actual tax basis (which was essentially zero since they never contributed cash), we discovered they had over $70k in suspended losses sitting on their personal return that they couldn't use. We presented this analysis showing that continued partnership ownership would likely generate more unusable losses, while a buyout - even at a significantly reduced amount - would allow them to trigger some of those suspended losses as a capital loss on the sale of their partnership interest. The partner ended up accepting a $15k settlement because they realized the alternative was continuing to receive K-1s with losses they couldn't deduct, plus the complexity of tracking suspended losses for potentially years. The key is getting a tax professional to run the numbers on both the capital account AND the tax basis/suspended loss calculation. Often the partner's actual economic position is much weaker than the capital account suggests, especially when they never contributed actual capital but have been allocated years of losses. This analysis completely changes the negotiation dynamic and often leads to much more reasonable settlement amounts.

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Romeo Quest

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This suspended loss analysis is brilliant and something I never would have thought to consider! As someone new to partnership taxation, can you explain how exactly the suspended losses would get triggered in a buyout scenario? Also, when you presented this analysis to the partner, did you need to show them their actual personal tax returns to prove the suspended loss situation, or were you able to demonstrate this just from the partnership records? I'm trying to understand how to build this kind of leverage analysis without overstepping boundaries in terms of accessing someone's personal tax information. The $85k to $15k settlement is a huge difference - that kind of analysis could save the original poster's friend tens of thousands of dollars if applied correctly to their situation.

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Received a CP504 Notice (Final Notice of Intent to Levy) - need reassurance about my tax guy's advice

I'm freaking out a bit and just need some reassurance. This all started with an incorrect W2 that was sent to our accountant last year. We caught the error, got the corrected W2, and gave it to him right away. We've been getting notices about owing money for several months now, and our accountant who's been handling this from the beginning keeps telling us to just forward him the letters but not to worry because he's been calling the IRS and submitted paperwork to fix it. Well, we just got these CP504 notices saying "Final Notice of Intent to Levy" and I'm pretty stressed about it. The wording is definitely scary. When I called my accountant and sent him the letters, he actually seemed... kind of pleased? He said this might be good because now someone at the IRS might actually pick up the phone when he calls. I asked if we should just pay the $2,700 they're asking for to stop the collection process, and he strongly told me NO and not to do that under any circumstances. He seems totally unfazed by this and has clearly dealt with this situation before. Should I trust that my accountant knows what he's doing if he's been working on this for the past year and shows zero concern? It's really stressful to get threatened with a levy when you have the money to pay, but your tax guy is insisting you shouldn't pay because he wants to make sure it's the correct amount and not what the IRS thinks we owe.

Zara Khan

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Has anyone ever had success getting the IRS to move quicker on resolving an amended return situation? My accountant said amended returns are taking 6-8 months to process right now, but meanwhile I'm getting threatening CP504 notices like the original poster. It's so frustrating!

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Luca Ricci

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The regular processing channels are super slow, but if you can get through on the phone, explain that you're receiving collection notices, and request a "taxpayer advocate" assignment, that can sometimes speed things up. They can put an urgent flag on your case if you're facing collection actions based on incorrect information. But getting through to request this is the hard part...

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I totally understand your stress - CP504 notices are designed to get your attention and they definitely do that! Your accountant's reaction actually makes sense to me. When you've been trying to resolve an issue through normal channels for months without success, sometimes escalation (like a CP504) can actually work in your favor by giving you access to different departments or priority handling. The fact that your accountant strongly advised against paying is significant. If you pay the disputed amount, you're essentially validating the IRS's incorrect assessment, and getting refunds back from the IRS is notoriously slow and difficult. It's much better to resolve the underlying error first. That said, I'd recommend asking your accountant for a detailed timeline of what's been submitted and when you can expect resolution. Also ask if he's requested any formal collection holds. Even though he seems confident, having a clear picture of the process will help reduce your anxiety. You could also consider calling the IRS yourself (or using a service to help you get through) just to verify what's on file and confirm the status - not to contradict your accountant, but just for your own peace of mind.

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Serious question - what happens if your friend just ignores the W-2G? Like the casino sent the form to the IRS, but if he has no other income and has been a non-filer for years, would the IRS really come after him for a small jackpot? Just wondering if it's even worth the hassle.

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Bad idea. The IRS has an automated system that matches information returns (like W-2Gs) with filed tax returns. If they have a W-2G for someone who doesn't file, it automatically triggers a notice. First they'll send a letter asking him to file, then they'll calculate taxes owed without any deductions or credits, then come penalties and interest. Not worth the risk over such a small amount.

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I went through something similar a few years ago. Had a decent casino win with a W-2G but was basically broke otherwise. The key thing to understand is that even though your friend has been a non-filer, that W-2G creates a filing requirement regardless of his other income. However, the good news is exactly what Sophia pointed out - if that $1600 is his only income for the year, it's well below the standard deduction threshold. He'll need to file a return to report it, but he won't actually owe any federal income tax. The IRS just needs to see that return to match against their records. I'd definitely recommend he files rather than ignoring it. The IRS matching system is pretty good at catching unreported gambling income, and it's much easier to file a simple return now than deal with notices and penalties later. Most free tax software can handle a basic return with just a W-2G.

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This is really helpful clarification! I'm new to this community but dealing with a similar situation. So just to make sure I understand - even if someone has zero other income and the gambling win is below the standard deduction, they still MUST file a return because the casino reported it to the IRS? The filing requirement isn't based on total income in this case, but on the fact that there's a W-2G floating around that the IRS expects to see matched up with a tax return? Also, when you say "most free tax software can handle this" - are there any specific ones you'd recommend for someone who's never filed before and is dealing with their first W-2G?

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Lucas Parker

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I think you could also try entering $0 as your prior year AGI. I've heard that works for first-time filers, might work in your situation too? Worth a try before going through all the transcript hassle.

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Donna Cline

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Entering $0 only works if you truly didn't file last year or if this is your first time filing. OP definitely filed last year so that won't work - it'll get rejected immediately. I tried that shortcut last year when I was in a similar situation. Huge waste of time.

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I went through this exact same nightmare last year! Here's what worked for me when I was completely stuck: If you have any financial institution that you bank with, check if they offer free tax transcript services. Many credit unions and some banks can help you get IRS transcripts through their secure portals. I found out my credit union had this service buried in their online banking under "Financial Tools" - got my transcript in about 10 minutes without having to deal with the IRS website at all. Also, if you remember which tax software you used last year (TurboTax, H&R Block, etc.), try logging into that account even if you don't think you saved anything. Most of these services keep your prior year data accessible for several years, and you might be surprised what's still there. I found my complete 2022 return in my old TurboTax account even though I thought I'd deleted everything. The paper filing route isn't the end of the world if these options don't work out, but definitely try the transcript services first. Way faster than waiting weeks for the IRS to process paper returns!

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Debra Bai

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This is really helpful advice! I had no idea that credit unions offered tax transcript services through their online banking. That sounds way easier than dealing with the IRS website directly. Do you know if regular banks like Chase or Bank of America offer this too, or is it mainly a credit union thing? I'm definitely going to check my online banking portal tonight to see if I can find something like this buried in there somewhere.

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