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Need urgent help with late FBAR and Form 8938 filing requirements for foreign accounts

I've been a resident alien for tax purposes for the past 6 years, and I just discovered something that's making me panic. I had no idea about Form 8938 and FBAR requirements until now because I've been using a basic free tax filing software that never flagged this issue. My wife and I have foreign bank accounts that went over $150,000 at certain points during each of the last 6 years. Most of these are just checking accounts with minimal interest (probably less than $120 total annually). I never received any 1099-INT forms from these foreign institutions, so I didn't report this small interest income either. After researching like crazy the past few days, I'm planning to write a statement explaining the situation and submit late FBARs for the past 6 years along with Form 8938 with amended returns for the last 3 years. My main concerns are: 1. We moved money between accounts, so the maximum value looks really high (around $750k) at certain points, but by December 31st each year, the total was only about $60k. Will this huge difference between maximum value and year-end balance create problems? 2. From what I've read, I can file FBARs for up to 6 years back and amend tax returns for up to 3 years. Is this sufficient, or should I try to fix tax returns from more than 3 years ago too? 3. For the small interest income from these foreign accounts, do I need to create and submit Form 1099-INT myself? None of these foreign banks provided any tax forms. Any advice would be incredibly helpful. I haven't been sleeping well since figuring this out.

Malik Jenkins

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I went through this exact same situation about 2 years ago - resident alien with foreign accounts that I had no idea needed to be reported. The panic is real, but you're taking the right steps by addressing it proactively. A few things that helped me get through it: 1. The Streamlined Filing Compliance Procedures are specifically designed for situations like yours. Since you're a US resident, you'll likely use the Streamlined Domestic Offshore Procedures, which has a 5% penalty on the highest aggregate account value (but often waived for good faith efforts). 2. For the money transfers that inflated your maximum balances, document everything clearly in your statement. The IRS understands that temporary transfers can create high maximum values - just be transparent about what happened. 3. Don't worry too much about the exact interest amounts if they were minimal. Estimate as best you can from your records and note in your filing that these are good faith estimates due to lack of proper tax documents from foreign institutions. 4. Consider consulting with a tax professional who specializes in international compliance, especially given the 6-year lookback period. The cost might be worth it for peace of mind and to ensure everything is filed correctly. You're not alone in this - thousands of people discover these requirements late. The key is demonstrating that your failure to file was non-willful, which it clearly was.

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Natalie Khan

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This is really reassuring to hear from someone who went through the same process. I'm curious about one thing - when you mentioned documenting the money transfers that inflated the maximum balances, did you need to provide actual bank transfer records or was a detailed written explanation sufficient? I have some of the transfer documentation but not all of it, and I'm worried this might be a problem. Also, did you end up having to pay the 5% penalty, or were you able to get it waived? My maximum aggregate value was around $750k due to those transfers, so 5% would be pretty significant for me.

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Toot-n-Mighty

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I had a similar situation with transfers inflating my maximum balances. A detailed written explanation was sufficient in my case - I didn't need to provide every single transfer record. What I did was create a simple timeline showing the major transfers and explaining that they were temporary moves between my own accounts (like consolidating funds before a major purchase, then redistributing them). As for the 5% penalty, I was actually able to get it completely waived. The key was demonstrating genuine non-willful behavior through a very thorough narrative statement. I explained my background, how I had been using basic tax software that never flagged these requirements, and showed that I came forward voluntarily as soon as I discovered the issue. The IRS seemed to appreciate the proactive approach and detailed documentation. With your $750k maximum due to transfers, definitely emphasize in your statement that this was temporary movement of funds rather than actual account growth. Document what you can, but don't stress if you don't have every single transfer record - focus on the overall pattern and your good faith effort to comply.

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I'm in a very similar situation and this thread has been incredibly helpful. I'm a resident alien who just discovered I should have been filing FBARs for the past 4 years. My foreign accounts peaked at around $400k during one year due to selling property overseas, but normally stay around $80k. One question I haven't seen addressed - for the amended tax returns with Form 8938, do I need to recalculate my entire tax liability for those years? The interest income from my foreign accounts was minimal (maybe $200-300 per year), but I'm wondering if adding this income might push me into a different tax bracket or affect other deductions. Also, has anyone had experience with the IRS questioning the timeline of when you "discovered" these filing requirements? I'm worried they might think I should have known about this sooner since I've been filing taxes as a resident alien for several years. The stress is really getting to me, but reading everyone's experiences here gives me hope that this can be resolved without devastating penalties.

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Joshua Wood

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I'm going through this exact process right now, so I can share what I've learned so far. For the amended returns, you do need to recalculate your tax liability, but with only $200-300 in additional interest income per year, it's unlikely to significantly impact your tax bracket or overall liability. You'll mainly be adding Schedule B to report the foreign interest and including Form 8938. Regarding the timeline discovery issue - from what I've researched and been told by others who've gone through this, the IRS is generally reasonable about this. Many tax professionals have said that it's very common for resident aliens to be unaware of these requirements, especially if they're using basic tax software that doesn't flag international reporting issues. The key is being honest in your narrative statement about when and how you discovered the requirements. I'd recommend documenting what triggered your discovery (maybe a conversation with someone, reading an article, etc.) and emphasizing that you're coming forward voluntarily as soon as you became aware. The fact that you're proactively addressing this rather than waiting for the IRS to discover it works strongly in your favor. The stress is definitely overwhelming - I've had many sleepless nights too - but everyone's experiences here show that the IRS has reasonable procedures for people in our situation.

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Need help! Discovered undisclosed foreign accounts - FBAR/Form 8938 filing questions

I'm starting to panic a bit here. I've been living in the US for several years as a resident alien (green card holder) and have been filing my taxes regularly, but I just discovered something that's got me worried. Apparently I have a foreign investment account that I completely forgot about. When I moved to the US for work about 5 years ago, I left behind a government savings account in my home country (Singapore) that my grandparents had set up for me. I honestly forgot it existed until my mother called recently to tell me it had accumulated around $19,000 USD. From what I understand after frantically researching, this seems to be below the Form 8938 threshold ($50,000) but I definitely should have been filing FBARs all this time. This account earns about $1,200 in interest annually and is tax-exempt in Singapore, but I know the US still taxes worldwide income. What's my best approach here? Can I just file the FBAR for this year going forward or am I going to face serious penalties for the previous missed years? The account isn't huge but definitely above the FBAR reporting requirement. Is the IRS likely to come after me for this honest mistake? Also, how exactly do I report the foreign interest income on my tax return? Is there a specific form beyond the FBAR? I've been using FreeTaxUSA for my returns if that helps with specific guidance. I'm really stressed about this and would appreciate any advice!

Royal_GM_Mark

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I went through almost the exact same situation about 2 years ago with a forgotten investment account in Canada that my parents had opened for me. The stress was overwhelming at first, but I want to reassure you that this is more common than you think and very manageable. Here's what worked for me: I filed all 6 years of delinquent FBARs using the IRS procedure mentioned by others here, and amended my last 3 tax returns to include the unreported interest income. The total additional tax I owed was only about $800 across all years, plus some interest - way less scary than I had imagined. The key was being proactive. I included a simple reasonable cause statement explaining that I genuinely forgot about the account after immigrating and was filing voluntarily once I discovered the requirement. No penalties were assessed, just the additional tax and interest. One practical tip for FreeTaxUSA: when entering the foreign interest, make sure you have the exact dates and amounts for each year. I had to contact my Canadian bank to get detailed statements going back several years, but they were helpful once I explained it was for tax compliance purposes. Don't let the anxiety consume you - take action now and you'll likely find the resolution much smoother than you're imagining. The IRS really does treat voluntary disclosures more favorably than discoveries during audits.

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Mei Chen

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This is really reassuring to hear from someone who went through the exact same process! The $800 total additional tax across all years is way less than I was fearing. Can I ask - when you contacted your Canadian bank for the historical statements, did they charge fees for going back that many years? And did you need any special documentation to prove the account was yours, or was your standard ID sufficient? I'm worried about the logistics of getting proper documentation from my Singapore bank since I haven't had contact with them in years.

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The bank fees were minimal - my Canadian bank (TD) charged about $25 for statements going back 6 years, which was totally worth it for the peace of mind. For documentation, my standard government-issued ID was sufficient since the account was in my name, though I did have to answer some security questions about account history. For Singapore banks, I'd recommend starting with a phone call to their international customer service line - most major Singapore banks (DBS, OCBC, UOB) have pretty good English-speaking support for overseas customers. Explain that you need historical statements for US tax compliance purposes. You might need to provide some form of ID verification, but they're usually helpful once they understand it's for legitimate tax reporting. If phone calls don't work, try reaching out through their secure online messaging systems or even visiting a branch if you have any upcoming travel plans. The key is being upfront about needing the records for tax compliance - banks are generally cooperative when it's for legitimate regulatory purposes rather than just curiosity. One tip: before contacting them, try to remember any details you can about the account (approximate opening date, any family members who might be co-signers, etc.) as this will help them locate the account more quickly.

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I completely understand the panic you're feeling - I went through something very similar when I discovered an old savings account in Australia that my parents had opened for me as a child. The good news is that your situation is actually quite straightforward to resolve, and the amounts involved work in your favor. Since you're being proactive about this discovery, you're in the best possible position. The IRS has specific procedures for exactly your situation called "Delinquent FBAR Submission Procedures" for people who genuinely didn't know about the requirement. Here's what I'd recommend: **For the FBARs:** File electronically for all years you should have filed (likely all 5 years you've been in the US). Include a brief statement explaining you genuinely forgot about the account after immigrating and are filing voluntarily upon discovery. **For your tax returns:** You'll need to amend the last 3 years to report the Singapore interest income. In FreeTaxUSA, go to Income β†’ Interest β†’ Foreign Interest Income. Make sure to convert the Singapore dollars to USD using the IRS yearly average exchange rates. **The reality check:** With $1,200 annual interest income, your additional tax liability will be relatively modest - probably a few hundred dollars per year plus interest. Since this is clearly non-willful (honest mistake), penalties are unlikely if you file before they contact you. The key is acting now while this is still a voluntary disclosure. Don't let anxiety delay action - that's the only thing that could make this situation worse. You've got this!

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Paolo Longo

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Thank you for sharing your experience with the Australian account - it's really helpful to hear from someone who's been through this exact process! I'm curious about the timeline you experienced. How long did it take from when you filed your delinquent FBARs until you heard back from the IRS (if at all)? And when you amended your tax returns, did you file all three amended years at once or space them out? I'm trying to figure out if there's a strategic order to tackle this, or if it's better to just get everything filed as quickly as possible.

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Sofia Morales

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Great question about timing! From my experience, I actually never heard back from the IRS about the delinquent FBARs themselves - no news was good news in this case. The electronic FBAR system just shows them as "accepted" and that was it. For the amended returns, I filed all three at once to get it over with rather than dragging it out. The IRS processed them within about 8-10 weeks and sent me bills for the additional tax plus interest - again, no penalties since it was clearly voluntary disclosure. Total process from filing everything to final resolution was about 3 months. My advice would be to tackle it all at once rather than spacing it out. Get the FBARs filed first (they're electronic and quick), then immediately work on amending your returns. The sooner you get everything submitted, the sooner you can stop worrying about it. Plus, filing everything together shows the IRS that you're being comprehensive in addressing the oversight rather than piecemeal compliance. One practical tip: keep detailed records of everything you file and when, including confirmation numbers from the FBAR submissions. This documentation was really helpful when I got the tax bills later to verify everything matched up correctly.

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Hey Amara! I totally feel your pain as a fellow first-timer πŸ˜… The N/A showing up after ID verification is actually super normal - it basically means the IRS is still working through your case after confirming your identity. The date change from 5/1 to 5/22 is definitely a good sign! It shows they're actively processing your return. That "LOW SIGNIFIES A CREDIT AMOUNT" message you're seeing just means that negative numbers on your transcript would represent credits (like your refund). Since everything is showing $0.00 right now, it's just because they haven't finished processing yet. The 3-week timeline the phone rep gave you was probably a bit optimistic - after ID verification, it usually takes closer to 6-9 weeks total. I know it's frustrating to wait, but that date change is progress! Keep checking your transcript weekly and hang in there πŸ’ͺ

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This is super helpful! I'm also a first-timer and was getting worried about the N/A showing up. Good to know that 6-9 weeks is more realistic than what they told me on the phone 😬 At least the date change means something is happening behind the scenes!

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StarSurfer

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As someone who went through this exact same situation last year, I can definitely relate to the confusion! The N/A entries and $0.00 amounts are totally normal at this stage - it just means your return is in the "processing" phase after ID verification. The date change from May 1st to May 22nd is actually a really positive sign! That's your "as of" date updating, which shows the IRS is actively working on your case. Just to manage expectations though - even though the phone rep said 3 weeks, it's more realistic to expect 6-9 weeks total after ID verification. I know it's nerve-wracking as a first-time filer, but you're on the right track! Keep checking your transcript weekly for updates, and don't panic if you see more date changes - that's just the system processing. Your refund will come! πŸ™

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LordCommander

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I'm dealing with a similar situation (though thankfully not quite as much - around $180k). One thing I learned from my research is that you should absolutely get multiple consultations before committing to that $13,500 fee. I found Enrolled Agents who specialize in tax resolution charging significantly less for similar services. Also, don't let the IRS collections timeline pressure you into making hasty decisions. While you don't want to ignore this, you do have time to explore your options properly. The IRS would rather work with you on a payment plan than go through the expensive process of trying to collect through liens and levies. Have you received any formal collection notices yet, or are you getting ahead of this based on what you discovered about the unreported income? That timeline can affect your negotiating position and urgency level.

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This is really solid advice about getting multiple consultations! I'm curious - when you say Enrolled Agents were charging significantly less, what kind of fee range were you seeing? I'm trying to figure out if that $13,500 the attorney quoted me is really necessary or if I could get similar results for less money. Also, to answer your question - I haven't received any formal collection notices yet. I discovered this issue when doing my taxes for last year and realized how much I actually owe across multiple years. So I do have some time to figure this out properly rather than panic-hiring the first professional I talked to.

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The Enrolled Agents I consulted were typically charging between $4,000-$7,000 for cases in our debt range, compared to the $13,500+ that attorneys were quoting. The key difference is that attorneys can represent you in Tax Court if needed, but for most installment agreement and OIC cases, an experienced EA can handle everything just as effectively. Since you haven't received collection notices yet, you're in a much better position than I was! This gives you time to be strategic rather than reactive. I'd recommend getting consultations from at least 2-3 different professionals - maybe one attorney and a couple of EAs - so you can compare their approaches and see who gives you the most confidence in their strategy. One thing to ask each professional: what's their success rate with cases similar to yours, and can they provide references from recent clients? The good ones won't hesitate to share this information.

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StarStrider

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I can't emphasize enough how important it is to act quickly but thoughtfully with a debt this size. $250k puts you in serious collection territory once the IRS starts the enforcement process. Here's my practical advice from handling similar cases: 1) That $13,500 attorney fee isn't unreasonable for the complexity, but shop around. Get at least 3 consultations - mix of attorneys and Enrolled Agents. 2) Start gathering ALL your financial documentation now: bank statements, pay stubs, mortgage/rent, utilities, insurance, car payments, etc. The IRS will want to see everything to determine your ability to pay. 3) Consider your long-term strategy. With your current $95k income and $250k debt, you're looking at either a long-term installment agreement or potentially an Offer in Compromise if your financial situation is truly dire. 4) Don't panic, but don't delay either. The interest and penalties keep adding up daily. Even if you end up on a payment plan, stopping the penalty clock sooner rather than later saves you money. The IRS is actually pretty reasonable to work with when you approach them proactively rather than waiting for them to come after you. You're doing the right thing by addressing this head-on.

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This is incredibly helpful advice, thank you! The point about stopping the penalty clock is something I hadn't fully considered - those daily penalties really do add up fast. I'm definitely going to take your suggestion about getting multiple consultations. It sounds like I should be looking for professionals who have specific experience with cases in this debt range rather than just general tax help. One quick question - when you mention gathering ALL financial documentation, how far back should I go? Are we talking about the last few months, or do they want to see a longer financial history to understand my situation? Also, you mentioned that the IRS is reasonable when you approach them proactively. Should I try to contact them directly before hiring representation, or is it better to have a professional make that first contact given the size of this debt?

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I received that letter february 1st and still nothing. transcripts haven't updated at all smh

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Sasha Reese

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have you tried checking your transcripts with taxr.ai? helped me understand why mine was stuck

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checking it out now, thanks fam πŸ’―

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Tyler Lefleur

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I got the 4464C letter back in January for my 2023 return. They were reviewing my EITC claim since I had a new dependent. Took about 82 days total but I finally got my refund last week! The waiting is brutal but hang in there. One thing that helped was setting up informed delivery so I could see if any mail was coming from the IRS without having to wait for it to actually arrive.

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Kevin Bell

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@Tyler Lefleur That s'actually really encouraging to hear! 82 days seems more manageable when you know there s'light at the end of the tunnel. Quick question - did your transcript show any movement during those 82 days or did everything just update all at once when they finished the review?

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Diego Vargas

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@Tyler Lefleur Thanks for sharing your experience! That gives me some hope. Did you have to send in any additional documents during those 82 days or was it just a waiting game? I m'trying to figure out if there s'anything I can do to speed up the process or if I just need to sit tight.

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