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The WMAR tool is notoriously unreliable for 2023 amended returns. Many taxpayers (myself included) received their refunds while the tool still showed "received" status. If you filed Form 1040-X electronically on June 18, 2023, you should be approaching completion based on current processing timelines. Have you checked if your account transcript shows any TC 971/977 codes? Those indicate amendment processing activity even when WMAR doesn't update.
I'm dealing with a very similar timeline - filed my amended return in late June 2023 as well. From what I've gathered reading through everyone's experiences here, it seems like 7-8 months is becoming the new normal for amended returns, which is frustrating when you're counting on that money. The inconsistency with the WMAR tool is really concerning - it sounds like many people are getting their refunds without any status updates online. I've been checking weekly too and mine still just says "received." One thing I'm wondering - for those who got their refunds after 7+ months, did you receive any notice beforehand or did the check just show up? I'm trying to figure out if I should expect any kind of heads up or if it'll just appear one day. The uncertainty is the worst part of this whole process. Thanks for starting this thread - it's helpful to know others are in the same boat, even though the wait is incredibly frustrating when you need the money for legitimate expenses like moving costs.
I'm in almost the exact same situation! Filed my amended return on June 22, 2023 (just 4 days after you) and still waiting. Based on what everyone's sharing here, it sounds like we're right in that 7-8 month window where refunds are starting to come through. From what I've read in this thread, it seems like most people didn't get any advance notice - the refund check just showed up in the mail one day while their WMAR status was still stuck on "received." That's both reassuring and nerve-wracking at the same time! I've been debating whether to try calling using that Claimyr service that @Andre Dupont mentioned, but honestly after reading everyone s'experiences, it sounds like we might be close enough to resolution that it s'worth waiting another month or two before taking that step. The waiting game is definitely the hardest part, especially when you have expenses you re'counting on that money for. Hang in there - sounds like we should hopefully see movement soon based on the timeline patterns others have shared!
Curious - did u receive any tax forms from the new 401k provider showing the incoming rollover? When I did mine, I got 1099-Rs from my old plans but nothing from the new one that received the $$.
You typically don't get a tax form from the receiving plan for a rollover. They'll just show it as a contribution or transfer in on your regular statements. Only the distributing plan (the one sending the money) issues a 1099-R.
I went through this exact same situation last year and was totally confused by the distribution codes too! What really helped me was understanding that the code on the 1099-R doesn't always perfectly match what actually happened - it's just the plan administrator's best guess at categorizing the transaction. For your Roth rollover, even if you see code J (early distribution, no known exception), it doesn't mean you'll owe penalties if you did a proper direct rollover. The key is how you report it on your tax return. When you file, you'll need to indicate that this was rolled over to another qualified plan, which will make it non-taxable regardless of the distribution code. I'd recommend keeping all your rollover documentation (confirmation letters from both plans, transfer forms, etc.) just in case. The IRS cares more about the actual substance of the transaction than the specific code your old plan used. As long as you can show it was a legitimate rollover, you should be fine!
This is really reassuring to hear from someone who went through the same thing! I'm definitely keeping all my rollover paperwork just in case. Did you use any specific tax software that made it easier to report the rollover correctly? I'm worried about accidentally checking the wrong box and triggering taxes on money that should be tax-free.
I'm in a similar situation but haven't mailed my amended return yet. Did you include any kind of note or explanation with your amended return about the Form 8606 error?
Always include a detailed explanation with amended returns. I had to amend because of 8606 issues too. I attached a typed explanation clearly stating what changed and why. My amendment was processed without any issues in about 16 weeks.
Based on everyone's advice here, I feel much more confident about moving forward. I did include a detailed explanation with my amended 1040X about the Form 8606 error - basically explained that I incorrectly reported my traditional IRA conversion and needed to correct the basis calculation. For anyone else dealing with Form 8606 amendments, make sure you're crystal clear about what changed because it affects your basis going forward. Since I'm planning to file my 2023 return soon, I'll use the corrected basis amounts from my amendment even though it hasn't been processed yet. Thanks everyone for the reassurance that I don't need to wait for the amendment to clear!
About the commercial insurance question - definitely get commercial coverage. I bought a vehicle through my LLC and initially kept my personal insurance. Had a minor accident and my claim was DENIED because the vehicle was registered to a business entity but only had personal coverage. Had to pay out of pocket for repairs AND still had to switch to commercial insurance after. The premium difference wasn't even that big in my case (about $300/year more), but the coverage is much better for business use.
One thing to keep in mind is the timing of when you can claim the commercial clean vehicle credit. Unlike the personal EV credit which can be taken at the point of sale, the commercial credit (IRC 45W) is only available when you file your business tax return. So if you purchase the PHEV in 2024, you won't be able to claim the $7,500 credit until you file your 2024 business taxes in 2025. This is important for cash flow planning - you'll need to finance the full purchase price upfront and wait for the credit to reduce your tax liability later. Also, since you mentioned this is a single-member LLC with pass-through taxation, make sure you have enough tax liability to fully utilize the credit. The commercial clean vehicle credit is generally non-refundable, so if your total tax liability is less than $7,500, you might not be able to use the full credit (though there may be carryforward provisions - worth checking with your tax preparer).
This is a really important point about timing that I hadn't considered! I was planning to buy the PHEV in December 2024, thinking I could use the credit to help with financing. But if I have to wait until filing my 2024 taxes in early 2025 to actually get the credit, that changes my cash flow planning significantly. Do you know if there's any way to get an advance on the credit like some other business credits allow? And regarding the tax liability requirement - if my LLC doesn't have enough tax liability to use the full $7,500 credit, can it carry forward to future years or is it just lost? Also wondering if estimated tax payments throughout the year can be reduced to account for the expected credit, or if that would cause underpayment penalties.
Alexis Robinson
Don't forget about state tax implications too! I learned this the hard way. We used the bonus method for a new partner and while the federal tax treatment was as expected, we got hit with some unexpected state tax issues. Some states treat the admission of a new partner differently than the feds do. We ended up having to file in three additional states because our new partner had nexus there. It was a mess! Make sure you consider both federal AND state tax consequences of however you structure this.
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Aaron Lee
ā¢Which states caused issues for you? We're dealing with partners in California, New York and Texas - wondering if those were problematic for you.
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NeonNova
This is such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with something similar right now where we're bringing in a new partner for $500k into our consulting partnership. Reading through all these responses, I'm realizing I need to think more carefully about the existing partners' tax implications. One thing I'm still not clear on - if we go with the goodwill method to avoid immediate tax hits to existing partners, how do we actually value that goodwill? Is it just the premium amount ($750k minus proportionate share of assets) or is there a more complex calculation involved? Also, our partnership agreement has a forced buyout provision if someone leaves - does that affect which method we should choose? I'm wondering if creating goodwill on the books might complicate future partner exits.
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Harold Oh
ā¢Great questions! For goodwill valuation, you're generally right that it's calculated as the excess of what the new partner pays over their proportionate share of the partnership's net asset basis. So if your new partner pays $500k for a 20% interest, but 20% of net assets is only $300k, you'd have $200k of implied goodwill. However, be careful - this assumes the $500k truly reflects fair value of the partnership interest. Sometimes the premium might be for other reasons (guaranteed payments, special profit shares, etc.). Regarding your buyout provision - this is crucial! If your agreement values departing partners based on book value, creating goodwill on the books means future buyouts will include that goodwill value. This could make exits much more expensive than originally intended. You might want to consider whether your buyout formula should specifically exclude this admitted goodwill, or if you need to revise the valuation method entirely. Have you run the numbers on what a future buyout would look like under each method? That might help drive your decision.
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