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I'm really sorry you're dealing with this - it's unfortunately all too common with these tax resolution companies that prey on people's desperation to fix their tax problems. Based on what you've described, this company is displaying classic signs of a predatory tax resolution firm. The refusal to provide itemized billing, blocking communication with your accountant, and constantly asking for more money without concrete results are major red flags. Here's what I'd recommend as your immediate next steps: 1. **Get your Tax Account Transcript** - As mentioned by others, this will show you exactly what's been filed (or not filed) on your behalf. You can get this free at IRS.gov or by calling 1-800-908-9946. 2. **Send a certified letter** terminating their services and demanding all your documents back. They're legally required to return your files. 3. **File complaints** with your state's attorney general, the Better Business Bureau, and the IRS using Form 14157. 4. **Consider contacting the IRS directly** - Many people are surprised to learn that IRS agents can be quite helpful when you reach them directly. You might qualify for a simple installment agreement or other relief programs. Don't let this company continue to drain your finances. At $12,000+ with no results, you've already paid more than many people's entire tax debt. You can absolutely resolve this situation without them, and there are legitimate resources available to help you do it affordably. You're not alone in this, and it's not your fault that you trusted what seemed like professional help.
This is such a thorough and helpful response. I especially appreciate you mentioning that Hassan has already paid more than many people's entire tax debt - that really puts into perspective how much these companies can drain from people. One thing I'd add is that when you do contact the IRS directly, be prepared to explain that you've been working with a tax resolution company that hasn't been communicating properly. The IRS agents deal with this situation regularly and often have specific procedures for helping people who've been caught up with these predatory firms. Also, Hassan, please don't feel embarrassed about this situation. These companies specifically target people who are trying to do the right thing and resolve their tax issues responsibly. Your instinct to seek help was correct - you just unfortunately encountered one of the bad actors in this industry.
Hassan, I'm so sorry you're going through this ordeal. What you've described is textbook predatory behavior from these tax resolution mills - the vague updates, refusing documentation, blocking your accountant, and constantly asking for more money are all classic red flags. As a senior who's dealt with IRS issues myself, I want you to know that you have more power than they want you to believe. The fact that they won't communicate with your independent accountant is particularly telling - legitimate tax professionals welcome transparency and collaboration. Here's what worked for me when I was in a similar situation: **Immediate action items:** - Send that certified letter terminating services (as Victoria mentioned) - Request your Tax Account Transcript from IRS.gov - this will show you the truth about what's actually been filed - Document every interaction you've had with them moving forward **The reality check:** At $12,000+ with zero progress, you've likely already paid more than what most people owe in back taxes. These companies count on you feeling overwhelmed and dependent on them, but the IRS actually has reasonable payment options when you work with them directly. Don't let them make you feel like your situation is uniquely complex - it's their business model to keep you paying indefinitely. You deserve honest help, not empty promises. Stay strong, and please keep this community updated on your progress. We're rooting for you.
Omar, thank you for sharing your experience and for the encouraging words. It really helps to hear from someone who has been through something similar. You're absolutely right about feeling overwhelmed - that's exactly how they keep you trapped in their system. I'm going to follow everyone's advice here and start with getting that Tax Account Transcript today. I had no idea I could access that information myself. The company always made it sound like only they had access to my tax records, which now seems like another manipulation tactic. It's both infuriating and somewhat relieving to learn that what I'm experiencing is so common. Infuriating because these companies are clearly predatory, but relieving because it means there are established ways to fight back and escape their cycle. I'll definitely keep everyone updated on my progress. This community has given me more useful information and support in one day than that company provided in two years. Thank you all for helping me realize I'm not powerless in this situation.
Just wanted to mention that even though Box 12 codes are important, don't forget to look at your Box 13 too. If you're contributing to TSP, the "Retirement plan" box should be checked. This affects whether you can deduct traditional IRA contributions if you have those as well.
This is such an important point! I missed this my first year in service and ended up getting a letter from the IRS because I deducted my IRA contribution when I wasn't eligible to. Had to pay back taxes plus interest.
I went through this exact same confusion when I first started dealing with military W2s and TSP withdrawals. One thing that really helped me was creating a simple checklist to make sure I didn't miss anything: 1. **Box 12 codes** - Write down each code and amount, then look up what each one means 2. **1099-R from TSP** - This is separate from your W2 and shows your withdrawal details 3. **Box 13 retirement plan checkbox** - Make sure this aligns with your TSP participation 4. **Early withdrawal penalties** - Check if you qualify for any military exceptions The key thing to remember is that your Box 12 amount and your TSP withdrawal are two completely different things that get reported differently on your tax return. Box 12 shows contributions that were made, while the 1099-R shows money you took out. I'd also recommend keeping copies of all your military tax documents in one folder - you'll thank yourself later if you ever need to reference them for future tax years or if the IRS has questions.
This checklist approach is brilliant! I wish I had something like this when I was first trying to figure out all the military tax stuff. One thing I'd add to your list is keeping track of any state tax considerations too - some states don't tax military retirement contributions the same way, and if you moved between states during the year (like many of us do with PCS moves), it can get really complicated. Also, for anyone reading this who's still confused about their specific situation, don't be afraid to reach out to your unit's finance office. They deal with this stuff all the time and can often point you in the right direction, even if they can't prepare your taxes for you.
Has anyone used the Form 8606 for reporting this kind of partial conversion? My accountant said I need to fill this out to show the taxable portion of my rollover but I'm completely lost on how to complete it properly.
Form 8606 is definitely required here. Part II is specifically for reporting conversions from traditional, SEP, or SIMPLE IRAs to Roth IRAs. You'll enter the total distribution on line 8, then the taxable amount (your employer contributions) on line 10.
I went through this exact same situation last year and it was definitely confusing at first! Here's what I learned from my tax preparer and some research: The key is understanding that your employer's traditional contributions were never taxed when they went into your 401k, so when you roll them to a Roth IRA, that's essentially a conversion that triggers taxable income. Your personal Roth contributions that show in Box 5 are fine since you already paid taxes on those. What helped me was creating a simple spreadsheet tracking my contribution history. I went back through my pay stubs and 401k statements to identify exactly how much my employer contributed as traditional (pre-tax) money versus my own Roth contributions. This gave me the exact amount I needed to report as taxable conversion income. Most tax software will handle this once you know the amounts - look for the section on "partial rollovers" or "mixed traditional/Roth distributions." You'll enter the total rollover amount, then specify how much was already taxed (your Roth portion) versus how much needs to be taxed now (employer traditional portion). Don't skip this step - the IRS will eventually catch discrepancies between what your 1099-R shows and what you report, and it's much easier to get it right the first time than deal with notices later!
This is really helpful! I'm dealing with a similar situation and the spreadsheet idea makes so much sense. Quick question though - when you say "go back through pay stubs," what specifically should I be looking for? Is it the employer match amounts or something else? I'm worried I might miss something important in my calculations.
Everyone keeps mentioning accountants, but I think you need a tax attorney for a situation this complex. I made the mistake of just using my regular CPA when I hadn't filed for 5 years, and we ended up with the IRS rejecting the voluntary disclosure and hitting me with serious penalties. An attorney can give you protection through attorney-client privilege that a CPA can't. Just my 2 cents after learning the hard way.
My CPA handled my 3 years of unfiled business returns just fine, no attorney needed. Paid about $3k in penalties but that was it. I think it depends on the complexity and whether there's any suggestion of fraudulent behavior. Simple failure to file vs actively hiding income are treated very differently.
I was in a very similar situation - didn't file for 4 years with my consulting LLC. The key thing that helped me was getting organized BEFORE meeting with a tax professional. I spent weeks trying to reconstruct my financial records from old bank statements and whatever receipts I could find. One practical tip: if you used business credit cards or had dedicated business bank accounts, those statements will be your lifeline for reconstructing deductible expenses. Even without receipts, you can often identify legitimate business expenses from the merchant names and dates. Also, don't panic about the penalties. Yes, there will be some, but the IRS has programs like "first-time penalty abatement" that can help reduce them if you have a clean record otherwise. The fact that you're proactively addressing this before they contact you works heavily in your favor. For your income jump to $650k this year - make sure you're making quarterly estimated payments NOW if you haven't already. That's probably more important than the back years at this point since the current year liability will be substantial. Start gathering your records immediately and find a tax pro who specializes in unfiled returns. Don't let this drag on any longer - every month you wait adds more penalties and interest.
This is incredibly helpful advice! I'm definitely kicking myself for not addressing this sooner. You're absolutely right about the quarterly payments - I've been setting aside money but haven't actually made the payments yet. That's going on my to-do list for tomorrow. Quick question about reconstructing expenses from bank statements - did you run into any issues with the IRS accepting expenses without actual receipts? I'm worried they'll reject legitimate business expenses just because I can't produce the original documentation. Also, how did you handle expenses that were mixed personal/business on the same card? The "first-time penalty abatement" sounds promising since I've never had any tax issues before this mess. Did your tax professional handle requesting that or is it something you have to apply for separately?
Marina Hendrix
I've been through this nightmare before with a client who had similar balance sheet issues. Here's what worked for me: First, get your hands on every bank statement, loan document, and financial record you can find for the past 3-4 years. You need to trace where that $668K actually went. In my case, it turned out to be a combination of unrecorded asset purchases, informal loans to shareholders that were never documented, and some legitimate distributions that just weren't recorded properly. The approach I took was similar to what Owen suggested - I created a comprehensive reconciliation showing the flow from the incorrect prior year balances to what they should have been, then made a single adjustment in the current year. I included a detailed memo with the return explaining the nature of the corrections. One thing I'd add: before you do anything, have a frank conversation with the client about what transactions actually occurred. Sometimes owners know exactly where the money went but the previous accountant just didn't record it properly. Other times, there are skeleton in the closet that need to come out before you can fix anything. Also, consider the state tax implications if you're in a state that follows federal S-Corp treatment. Some states have their own rules about how balance sheet corrections should be handled. The good news is that if this is truly just accounting errors with no additional tax owed, the IRS is usually reasonable about letting you fix it going forward rather than reopening multiple years.
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Omar Zaki
ā¢This is exactly the kind of thorough approach that's needed for such a large discrepancy. I'm curious though - when you had that conversation with the client about what transactions actually occurred, did you find they were forthcoming about everything? I'm always worried about situations where the client might not be fully transparent about cash flows, especially when we're talking about over half a million dollars. How do you balance being thorough in your investigation while not appearing to accuse the client of wrongdoing? And did you run into any issues with state tax authorities when you made those corrections, or did they generally follow the federal approach?
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Yara Elias
I've been following this thread and wanted to add some practical insights from dealing with similar situations. The $668K discrepancy is definitely significant, but you're right to be cautious about not creating unnecessary complications. Before making any adjustments, I'd strongly recommend doing what I call a "cash flow autopsy" - trace every major cash movement for the past 2-3 years through bank statements. Look for patterns like regular payments to owners, large equipment purchases, loan proceeds, or asset sales that might explain the discrepancy. One thing I've learned is that these situations often involve multiple issues layered together. You might find $200K in unrecorded distributions, $300K in equipment purchases that were expensed instead of capitalized, and $168K in other accounting errors. Each piece needs to be handled appropriately. For the correction approach, I agree with Owen's bridge schedule method. Create a clear audit trail showing how you arrived at the corrected balances. The IRS appreciates transparency, and if you can demonstrate that the corrections don't result in additional tax liability, they're usually reasonable. One additional consideration: make sure to review the shareholders' basis calculations. If there were unreported distributions in prior years, their basis tracking might be off too, which could affect future distributions or loss limitations. Document everything thoroughly and consider having the client sign off on your methodology before filing. This protects both of you and shows good faith effort to correct the records properly.
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