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Dyllan Nantx

Twins born this year - Which parent should claim them as dependents?

My girlfriend and I just had twins a few months ago (yay but also omg so tired). We're not married, just two people trying to make this crazy life work together. Our financial situation: Her: Makes about $230K, has substantial student loan interest, medical expenses from the birth, and currently claims both twins on her W4. Me: Make around $185K, some student loan interest, own a duplex rental property, have some stock capital losses, and don't claim any dependents on my W4. We split rent on our place and share expenses. I was super excited when I realized my tax return for 2023 would be even better than usual since I typically get around $10K back due to my rental property investments. I was like "wow with the twins I'll get so much more!" Then my girlfriend mentioned she's already been claiming them on her W4 so her paychecks have been higher. She's worried if she stops claiming them now, she'll end up owing a bunch when we file taxes. Any thoughts on how to maximize our returns? Should she stop claiming them on her W4 and I pick them up instead? Would that give us the biggest combined return? I was psyched about potentially claiming head of household, two dependents, rental property expenses... but now I'm confused about the best approach. Thanks for any advice!

The question isn't really who gets to claim them on their W4 (that's just for withholding), but who should claim them on their actual tax return. Since you're not married, only one of you can claim the children as dependents and claim Head of Household filing status. Generally, the parent who would benefit most from claiming the children is the one who should claim them. Given your respective incomes, you might benefit more since you're in a slightly lower tax bracket. However, there are specific IRS rules about who can claim children when parents aren't married: 1. The parent who had the children living with them for more nights during the year (the custodial parent) generally has first right to claim them. 2. If both parents had equal nights, then the parent with the higher AGI gets to claim them. You should both run your tax returns both ways (with and without claiming the children) to see which scenario gives you the best COMBINED outcome. Remember, this isn't just about refunds - it's about your total tax liability as a couple.

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Anna Xian

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Okay I thought Head of Household was just for single parents? Can you claim HOH if the other parent is living with you? This is all so confusing lol.

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You're asking a good question. To claim Head of Household, you must be considered "unmarried" for tax purposes, pay more than half the cost of keeping up the home, and have a qualifying person (like your child) live with you for more than half the year. Here's where it gets tricky - if both parents live together with the children, only one parent can claim Head of Household, and that's typically the parent who pays more than half the household expenses. If you truly split everything 50/50, neither of you might qualify for HOH. The IRS would consider you both as "Single" filing status in that case.

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Collins Angel

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Something nobody's mentioned yet - if you're planning to claim them, you might want to adjust your W4 NOW rather than waiting. If your girlfriend has been getting the tax benefit all year in her paychecks, and then you claim them on the final return, she's probably going to owe money and you'll get a bigger refund. You could adjust your withholding now so your paychecks get bigger for the rest of the year, which would reduce your refund but give you more money now. That way it's more balanced when you file.

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Dyllan Nantx

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This is a good point I hadn't considered. If I claim them on the final return but she's been getting the benefit all year in her paycheck, it would hit her with a big tax bill, right? That wouldn't be fair since she's been using that money for our family expenses.

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Collins Angel

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Exactly. The W-4 only affects how much is withheld from each paycheck - it doesn't determine who actually gets to claim the dependents on the tax return. If she's been getting smaller withholding all year (bigger paychecks) because she listed the twins as dependents, but then doesn't claim them on the actual return, she'll likely owe that money back. You could talk to your payroll department about adjusting your W-4 for the remainder of the year to lower your withholding. This would give you bigger paychecks now and a smaller refund later, which might help balance things out between you two. Just make sure you don't reduce your withholding so much that you end up owing a lot come tax time.

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Marcelle Drum

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Remember that there's also the Child Tax Credit to consider. For 2023, it's up to $2,000 per qualifying child under 17. With twins, that's potentially $4,000 in tax credits! This is separate from dependent exemptions (which don't exist anymore) and can significantly reduce tax liability. This credit begins to phase out when income exceeds $200,000 for single filers, which might affect your girlfriend at $230K. You might benefit more from claiming the children for this reason alone.

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Tate Jensen

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There's also the Child and Dependent Care Credit if they're paying for daycare or nanny services for the twins! That can be worth up to 35% of $3,000 in expenses for one child or $6,000 for two or more children, depending on income.

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Dylan Hughes

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This is exactly the kind of situation where you need to run the numbers both ways! With your girlfriend at $230K, she's likely hitting some phase-out thresholds that could make it more beneficial for you to claim the twins. A few key things to consider: - Child Tax Credit phases out starting at $200K for single filers, so she might not get the full $4,000 credit for both twins - Your lower income might qualify for better credits and deductions - Since you mentioned rental property, claiming Head of Household could give you better tax brackets for all your income The tricky part is that if she's been claiming them on her W-4 all year, she's gotten bigger paychecks but will owe that back if she doesn't claim them on the return. You'll want to coordinate this so one of you doesn't get stuck with a surprise tax bill. I'd suggest using a tax calculator or software to model both scenarios - her claiming them vs you claiming them - and see which gives you the better combined outcome as a family unit. The difference could be substantial given your income levels and the various credits involved.

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