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Has anyone used TurboTax for carrying over adoption credits? I'm trying to figure out if it automatically tracks this for me year to year or if I need to manually enter previous year carryover information.
I used TurboTax last year and this year for my adoption credit carryover. If you used TurboTax last year, it should automatically import your carryover amount when you file this year. There's a screen specifically for "credit carryovers from previous years" where you can verify the amount is correct. Just make sure you're using the same TurboTax account as last year. I'd also recommend double-checking the carryover amount against your previous year's return (Form 8839) to make sure it imported correctly.
This is such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with a similar situation - we adopted our daughter in 2023 and I was completely lost on how the credit carryover works. One thing I learned from my tax preparer that might help others: make sure to keep really detailed records of your adoption expenses, even the ones that might not seem obviously qualifying. Things like travel costs to meet the child, court fees, and even some home study expenses can count toward the credit. Also, if you're working with an adoption agency, ask them for a detailed breakdown of all fees - sometimes they can help categorize which expenses qualify for the credit versus which ones don't. This was super helpful for maximizing our eligible expenses. For anyone using tax software, I'd recommend double-checking the adoption credit calculation manually using Form 8839 instructions. I caught an error in my software's calculation that would have cost me about $500 in credit. The software had missed some qualifying expenses I had entered.
This is really great advice about keeping detailed records! I'm just starting the adoption process and had no idea that travel costs and home study expenses could qualify. Do you know if there's a comprehensive list somewhere of what expenses are eligible? Also, that's a smart tip about double-checking the software calculation. Did you find any resources that helped you verify which expenses should be included? I want to make sure I'm tracking everything correctly from the beginning so I don't miss anything when it comes time to file.
I went through EXACTLY this last year! Turns out the IRS system had flagged me because someone with a similar name and SSN (just one digit off) had Marketplace coverage. The fastest solution was to paper file my return with a written statement explaining I didn't have Marketplace coverage and including proof of my other coverage (I attached a copy of my insurance card and a benefits statement). Yeah it's annoying because paper filing means waiting longer for your refund, but it got processed eventually. Whatever you do, don't just ignore the rejection - the IRS computers will keep expecting that Form 8962 until the issue is resolved.
Paper filing is such a pain though. Did you ever try calling the IRS? I've heard if you call right when they open at 7am, the wait times are much shorter. Seems better than waiting months for a paper return to process.
This exact thing happened to me two years ago! The IRS rejection was super confusing because I was also on my parents' employer insurance and had never even heard of Form 8962. Here's what I learned: The IRS database sometimes has glitches where SSNs get mixed up or incorrectly flagged. Since you were on your parents' plan (not Marketplace insurance), this is almost certainly a system error. My advice: 1. Confirm with your parents they had employer insurance, not Marketplace 2. If confirmed, call the IRS at 1-800-829-1040 first thing in the morning (7 AM) when wait times are shorter 3. Have your SSN, rejection notice, and tax return ready 4. Explain you were covered by employer insurance, not Marketplace insurance 5. Ask them to check their records and remove the Form 8962 requirement from your account The agent should be able to see the error and fix it so you can e-file normally. If phone wait times are too long, paper filing with an explanation letter works too, but takes way longer to process. Don't stress too much - this is more common than you'd think and it's totally fixable!
Thanks for sharing your experience! The 7 AM tip is really helpful - I had no idea the wait times were shorter then. I'm definitely going to try calling first thing tomorrow morning. Quick question - when you called, did they fix it immediately or did you have to wait for some kind of update to their system? And did you need any specific documentation beyond what you mentioned? I want to make sure I have everything ready when I call. Really appreciate you taking the time to explain this. It's so reassuring to know other people have dealt with this exact same issue!
Just to add something that hasn't been mentioned - the "wash sale" rule that applies to stocks (where you can't claim a loss if you buy the same or substantially similar security within 30 days) technically doesn't apply to crypto right now. But there's talk about changing that. So technically, you could sell your crypto at a loss and immediately rebuy it to harvest the tax loss while maintaining your position. This is still allowed for crypto (unlike stocks) but the IRS might close this loophole in the future.
One thing to keep in mind is that the character and timing of your losses matters for carryforward purposes. Make sure you're distinguishing between short-term and long-term capital losses, as they have different netting rules. Short-term losses (assets held for one year or less) must first offset short-term gains, and long-term losses (assets held for more than one year) must first offset long-term gains. Only after this initial netting can losses of one type offset gains of the other type. So if your 2023 crypto losses were short-term but your 2024 gains are long-term (or vice versa), the offsetting still works, but the IRS requires you to follow the specific netting order on Form 8949 and Schedule D. This doesn't change the fact that your losses can fully offset your gains - it just affects how you report it on your tax return.
This is really helpful! I didn't realize there was a specific netting order. So if I understand correctly, even though my losses can eventually offset my gains regardless of whether they're short-term or long-term, the IRS wants me to first match short-term losses against short-term gains, and long-term losses against long-term gains, before doing any cross-offsetting? Does this affect the final tax outcome or is it just a reporting requirement?
Thank you all for sharing your experiences! As someone new to dealing with these codes, this thread has been incredibly helpful. I just noticed 570 and 971 codes on my transcript dated April 5th and April 12th respectively. Based on what everyone's shared here, it sounds like I should wait it out for another week or two before getting concerned. Quick question though - should I be worried that my codes are appearing later in the season? I filed on March 1st but just got these codes now. Is there any difference in processing time for codes that appear later versus earlier in the filing season? Also, has anyone noticed if the IRS phone wait times are getting better or worse as we get deeper into tax season? Really appreciate this community for helping calm my nerves! π
Welcome to the 570/971 club! π Don't worry about the timing - I've seen these codes appear throughout the season and they seem to resolve at similar rates regardless of when they show up. Your March 1st filing date with codes appearing in April is actually pretty normal, especially if you claimed any credits like EITC or CTC. From what I've observed in similar threads, the IRS seems to process these verification holds in batches, so timing can be all over the place. As for phone wait times, they've been consistently terrible all season (sorry!), but most people in your situation don't need to call anyway. Based on your dates (April 5th and 12th), I'd give it until around April 26th before considering any action. The 7-day gap between your codes is a good sign that it's likely routine verification. Keep checking your transcript every few days and you'll probably see that 846 code pop up soon! π€
This is such a valuable thread! I'm currently dealing with these same codes and feeling much more confident after reading everyone's experiences. Got my 570 on March 22nd and 971 on March 29th - so right in line with the typical 7-day pattern many of you mentioned. What's really helpful is seeing the actual success stories with specific timelines. @Marina Hendrix, your 18-day resolution from start to finish gives me hope! And @Aileen Rodriguez, those statistics about 76% resolving automatically are reassuring. I'm a freelance graphic designer and this is actually my third year getting these codes. The first time I panicked and spent hours trying to call the IRS. The second time I waited it out and it resolved in 16 days. This year I'm just monitoring my transcript and staying patient based on past experience. One thing I've noticed is that my cycle code changed from 20241105 to 20241205 when the 971 appeared - has anyone else seen their cycle codes update like this? Wondering if that's another indicator of normal processing vs. something more complex. Thanks everyone for sharing your knowledge and keeping each other calm during this stressful process! ππͺ
Hi Alice! Thanks for sharing such a detailed breakdown of your experience. As someone completely new to tax codes (this is my first year dealing with anything beyond a simple W-2), this thread has been a lifesaver! Your point about the cycle code changing is really interesting - I just checked mine and noticed the same thing happened! Mine went from 20241005 to 20241105 when my 971 code appeared on April 12th. I had no idea what that meant, but if it's normal processing then that's one less thing to worry about. It's so reassuring to hear from someone who's been through this multiple times. Your 16-day resolution last year gives me a good benchmark for what to expect. I'm definitely taking the "monitor and wait" approach based on everyone's advice here rather than trying to call right away. Question for you - when you say you're monitoring your transcript, are you checking daily or just a few times a week? I've been checking every morning but wondering if I'm being a bit obsessive about it! π Thanks again for sharing your freelancer perspective - it seems like us gig workers really do encounter these codes more frequently than traditional employees!
Anastasia Fedorov
Just be super careful with electronic W-2s. I emailed one to my housekeeper last year and it turned into a disaster when someone hacked her email account and filed a fraudulent return with her info before she could. The IRS explicitly recommends securing any electronic tax documents with passwords or encryption. Maybe ask your nanny if they'd be ok with you using a secure file transfer service instead of direct email?
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Sean Doyle
β’This is good advice. I send my gardener his W-2 through a password-protected PDF with the password texted separately to his phone. That way even if someone gets into his email, they can't open the actual document without the password from a different channel.
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Connor O'Reilly
Thanks everyone for all the helpful advice! Based on what I'm reading here, it sounds like electronic W-2 delivery is definitely acceptable as long as I have my nanny's consent (which I do) and I take proper security measures. I think I'll go with the password-protected PDF approach that a few people mentioned - sending the W-2 as a password-protected attachment and texting the password separately. That seems like a good balance of respecting my nanny's preference for electronic delivery while also protecting their sensitive information. Really appreciate all the insights about the IRS requirements and the security considerations. This is exactly the kind of guidance I was hoping for as a first-time household employer!
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Cedric Chung
β’That sounds like a really smart approach! The password-protected PDF with separate password delivery is definitely the way to go for security. Just wanted to add - make sure you keep a record that you sent the W-2 by the January 31st deadline, maybe save the email confirmation or delivery receipt. That way if there are ever any questions, you have proof you met the IRS requirement for timely delivery. Good luck with your first year as a household employer - you're handling it really responsibly!
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