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Negotiating Installment Agreement for Single Tax Year When Other Years Have CNC Status (TC 530)

Got hit with a CP504 notice for 2019 back in March. Called the IRS and initially the agent started talking about setting up a payment plan, then suddenly changed course and transferred me to collections. When I spoke with the collections rep, she seemed weirdly hesitant to explain my account status. Then she pushed hard for a payment arrangement starting at $500 monthly, increasing to $625 the following year, and continuing upward from there. After doing some research on my own transcripts, I discovered TC 530 (Balance due, account currently not collectible-not due to hardship) on six of my seven years of tax debt. These CNC statuses were applied in October 2022. The only year WITHOUT the CNC status is 2019 - the year they're pursuing me for now. When I tried to negotiate a payment plan just for the 2019 year, the rep insisted they can't do installment agreements for single tax years - it has to cover everything. They've also started pursuing me for 2010 debt, claiming the CSED date extends to 2026. Now they're demanding financial statements. Should I call back and push for a payment plan just for 2019 using my knowledge of the CNC status on the other years? Was rejecting their initial offer a mistake? The CNC status seems like valuable leverage, but I'm not sure how to use it effectively. They've already told my employer to max out my withholding (0 exemptions, head of household). Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

One thing nobody's mentioned yet - check if any of your tax debt is approaching the 10-year CSED (Collection Statute Expiration Date). If so, sometimes it's better to wait it out than agree to a payment plan! When you enter into an installment agreement, the statute is suspended during the plan plus 30 days after it ends. So you could accidentally extend the life of tax debt that would otherwise expire soon.

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Dylan Wright

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This is super important advice! I didn't realize this and ended up extending my CSED by almost 2 years by agreeing to a payment plan right before the 10-year mark. I should have just waited it out. Also worth noting that there are other things that extend the CSED besides payment plans - filing bankruptcy, submitting an offer in compromise, requesting a collection due process hearing, etc. Always check your transcript for the actual CSED date.

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The combination of CNC status on multiple years while they actively pursue one specific year creates a complex situation that requires careful navigation. Here's my take based on what you've shared: First, don't feel bad about rejecting their initial offer - $500+ monthly escalating payments for someone who already has most years in CNC status due to financial hardship seems excessive. The fact that six of your seven years have TC 530 codes is significant leverage. Regarding the single-year payment plan issue: While IRS reps often say they can't do single-year agreements, there are exceptions. You should specifically ask about a "streamlined installment agreement" for just the 2019 liability, referencing the fact that the other years are already determined to be uncollectible due to your financial situation. The 2010 debt extending to 2026 is worth investigating further. That's a 16-year collection period, which suggests multiple statute extensions occurred (possibly previous payment plans, OIC applications, or bankruptcy). Request a copy of your CSED worksheet to understand exactly why it was extended. When they ask for financial statements, be prepared to demonstrate that your financial situation hasn't materially changed since the October 2022 CNC determination. If it hasn't improved, you might even be able to get the 2019 year put into CNC status as well. The employer withholding lock-in can be challenged once you establish a payment agreement and demonstrate compliance. This isn't automatic but is definitely possible. My advice: Call back, reference the CNC status on your other years, and propose a reasonable payment amount for just 2019 that aligns with your demonstrated financial capacity from the CNC determination.

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Jacob Lee

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This is really helpful advice! I'm curious though - when you mention asking for a "streamlined installment agreement" for just the 2019 liability, is that an official IRS term I should use? I want to make sure I'm using the right language when I call back so they take me seriously. Also, regarding the CSED worksheet for the 2010 debt - how do I request that? Do I just ask the collections rep directly, or is there a formal process? That 16-year timeline seems way too long and I'd really like to understand what extended it so much. One more question - if my financial situation really hasn't changed since the 2022 CNC determination, should I be pushing to get 2019 into CNC status too rather than agreeing to any payment plan? It seems like if the IRS already determined I can't pay on six years due to hardship, the same logic should apply to 2019.

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Steven Adams

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The IRS processing pipeline has multiple stages that aren't visible to taxpayers. E-file acceptance only confirms successful transmission to IRS servers (Stage 1). Transcript visibility requires passing through initial validation (Stage 2) and entering the processing queue (Stage 3). During peak filing periods (February-April), the time between Stages 1 and 3 averages 14-21 days for returns without complexities. My TaxAct return from February 8th didn't appear on transcripts until February 25th, then processed with DD on March 1st.

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Nia Davis

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I'm going through the exact same thing right now! Filed with TaxAct on February 28th, got the acceptance confirmation immediately, but my transcript has been completely blank for 2024 tax year. It's really nerve-wracking as a first-time filer not knowing if this is normal. Reading through everyone's experiences here is actually pretty reassuring - seems like this 2-3 week delay between acceptance and transcript visibility is just how the system works during busy season. I've been checking the Where's My Refund tool daily too and it still says "processing." Thanks for posting this question, I was starting to think something was wrong with my return!

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@Nia Davis I m'in almost the exact same boat! Filed with TaxAct on March 1st just (a few days after you and) also got immediate acceptance but nothing showing on transcripts yet. As someone who s'also relatively new to the US tax system, this whole process feels so opaque compared to what I m'used to. It s'oddly comforting to know this seems to be the normal experience rather than something going wrong. Have you been checking at specific times of day, or just whenever you remember? I keep reading that they update overnight but I m'not sure if that actually makes a difference for when transcripts first appear.

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Joshua Wood

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I've been through this exact situation before! Your original plan is absolutely correct - you can print Copy B (contractor copies) on regular paper from the IRS PDF and send them while traveling. The special red scannable paper is only required for Copy A that goes to the IRS. I think your CPA might be confused because he's used to handling the entire 1099 process at once. When you're splitting it up (contractor copies now, IRS filing later), the rules are different. A few practical tips from my experience: - Download the 1099-MISC PDF directly from irs.gov - Fill it out completely and print copies B and C on regular white paper - Keep detailed records of when you sent them (email delivery receipts if sending electronically) - Your CPA can handle Copy A and Form 1096 on the special paper when he files The January 31 deadline is for getting copies to your contractors, which you can absolutely meet with regular paper or electronic delivery. The IRS filing deadline is later anyway (end of February if filing on paper, end of March if e-filing). You're not doing anything wrong - this is a completely legitimate approach that many businesses use when traveling or dealing with timing constraints.

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Sasha Ivanov

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This is exactly the reassurance I needed! Thank you for laying out the practical steps so clearly. I was starting to panic that I was doing something wrong when my CPA pushed back on my plan. Your point about the deadlines is especially helpful - I didn't realize the IRS filing deadline was different from the contractor deadline. So I have until January 31 to get copies to my contractors (which I can do with regular paper), but my CPA has until end of February/March to handle the official IRS filing with the special forms. That takes so much pressure off! I'm going to go ahead with my original plan and send the contractor copies on regular paper this week. Thanks for confirming this is a legitimate approach - sometimes it's hard to know if you're cutting corners inappropriately or just being practical.

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Just to add another perspective from someone who's been handling 1099s for small businesses for years - you're absolutely on the right track with your plan. The confusion often comes from CPAs who are used to handling everything in one batch, but splitting the process like you're doing is perfectly legal and actually pretty common. One thing I'd suggest: when you email or mail the contractor copies, include a brief note explaining that this is their official 1099-MISC for tax purposes, even though it's printed on regular paper. Some contractors get confused when they receive a "plain paper" 1099 instead of the fancy red forms they might expect. Also, make sure you're using the current year's 1099-MISC form from the IRS website - they sometimes make small changes to the layout that could cause issues if you use an old version. The 2024 forms should be available now for reporting 2024 payments. Your plan gives you the best of both worlds: meeting the contractor deadline while traveling, and letting your CPA handle the official IRS submission properly when you're back. Don't let the pushback make you second-guess a solid approach!

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Debra Bai

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That's a great point about including a note with the contractor copies! I hadn't thought about that, but you're right - contractors might be expecting those official red forms and could get confused. I'll definitely add a brief explanation when I send them out. Something like "This is your official 1099-MISC for 2024 tax reporting purposes. While printed on regular paper, it contains all the required tax information you need for filing your return." And thanks for the reminder about using the current year's forms - I'll make sure I'm downloading the 2024 version from irs.gov. It's reassuring to hear from someone with experience that this split approach is common practice. Makes me feel much more confident about moving forward with the plan!

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Liam Brown

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Slightly off topic but why are u paying $12.99 per trade in 2025? Almost all major brokers offer free stock trades now. Unless ur trading something unusual or international?

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Not OP but some brokers still charge for OTC stocks, foreign securities, and certain types of bonds. Also, "free" trading at some places just means they're making money off you in other ways (payment for order flow, higher margin rates, etc).

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Just wanted to add a point that might help others - make sure to keep detailed records of ALL your brokerage fees throughout the year, not just relying on your 1099-B. I learned this the hard way when my broker's year-end statement was missing some fees from smaller trades. I now keep a simple spreadsheet tracking each transaction with the actual purchase/sale price and the fee separately. This way when tax time comes, I can verify that my cost basis calculations are correct regardless of what the brokerage reports. Also, if you're doing a lot of trading like the OP mentioned, consider whether you might qualify as a trader for tax purposes rather than an investor - the rules for deducting expenses can be different and potentially more favorable.

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Miguel Silva

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This is excellent advice about keeping your own records! I learned this lesson too when my brokerage missed reporting some fees on penny stock trades. Quick question about the trader vs investor status - what's the threshold for qualifying as a trader? I'm doing maybe 50-60 trades per year but it's not my full-time job. Would love to know if there are specific criteria the IRS uses to make that determination since the expense deduction rules could definitely be helpful. Also, do you use any particular spreadsheet template or just track the basics like date, symbol, shares, price, and fees?

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Varo is usually good. Mine came early. Check your account details. Make sure they're correct. IRS doesn't make mistakes often. But it happens. Give it until end of day tomorrow. Then worry. Most people get their money on time.

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Chloe Martin

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@Emma Thompson is right about checking your account details! I had a nightmare situation last year where I accidentally transposed two digits in my routing number and my refund got sent to some random account. Had to wait months for the IRS to reissue it. Also, make sure your name on the tax return matches exactly what s'on your Varo account - even middle initials matter sometimes.

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Connor Byrne

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I'm in the exact same boat! DDD 3/18 with Varo and still nothing as of this morning. Last year my refund hit 2 days early around 6 AM, so I was expecting it yesterday or today. I've been checking the app obsessively too! šŸ˜… From what I've read, Varo's early deposit timing can be inconsistent - sometimes it depends on when the IRS sends the ACH files to the banks. I'm trying not to panic yet since we still have until tomorrow, but the waiting is definitely nerve-wracking when you're counting on that money!

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Tate Jensen

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Same here! DDD 3/18 with Varo and still waiting as of noon today. This is my first year filing taxes in the US so I wasn't sure what to expect, but all the stories about early deposits had me hopeful. I keep refreshing the app between work meetings! 😬 At least knowing others are in the same situation makes me feel less alone in this waiting game. Fingers crossed we both see our deposits soon!

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