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Diego Flores

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Just a heads-up based on personal experience: be VERY careful with your record keeping if you're doing Roth corrections or backdoor contributions. I messed up my basis tracking over multiple years and got hit with a CP2000 notice claiming I owed taxes on conversions that should have been tax-free. It took me months to untangle everything because I didn't have proper documentation for which contributions had been withdrawn as excess vs. which ones were converted properly. Make sure you keep ALL your 5498 and 1099-R forms indefinitely!

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Thank you for that warning. I'll definitely keep better records going forward. Should I be requesting any specific forms from my IRA provider to help document the excess contribution removal? And how many years of these documents should I be keeping?

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Diego Flores

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You should specifically request a statement or letter confirming the excess contribution removal and make sure they code the 1099-R properly. The code should indicate it was a "return of excess contributions" - usually code P or JP in box 7 of the 1099-R. As for how long to keep the documents, I personally now keep ALL retirement account documentation indefinitely. The technical requirement is 3 years from filing, but since IRA contributions and conversions can affect your basis for decades, it's safer to keep everything. I learned this the hard way when the IRS questioned transactions from 5 years prior. Just create a digital folder system and save everything - Form 5498 (showing contributions), 1099-R (showing distributions), account statements showing the removal of excess, and any correspondence with your provider about corrections.

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Based on your description, it sounds like you handled the excess contribution removal correctly by withdrawing before the filing deadline, which should have avoided the 6% penalty. However, there are a couple of areas that need attention: Your basis calculation is indeed incorrect. Since you withdrew the entire 2023 contribution of $1,500, that amount should NOT be included in your ongoing basis. Your basis should only reflect contributions that remain in the account - so for 2024, it should just be $7,000 (assuming you're eligible for the 2024 contribution). You should have received a 1099-R for the 2024 withdrawal showing the $1,530 distribution. The $1,500 principal portion isn't taxable since it was a return of excess contributions, but the $30 in earnings should be reported as taxable income on your 2024 return. If you're under 59½, those earnings are also subject to the 10% early withdrawal penalty. Make sure your IRA provider coded the 1099-R correctly - it should show code P or JP in box 7 to indicate "return of excess contributions." This helps the IRS understand the nature of the distribution. For 2024, double-check that your income still qualifies you for the $7,000 Roth contribution. If you're over the limit again, you'll want to address this before the filing deadline to avoid repeating the same issue. You likely don't need to amend your 2023 return if you properly reported the excess on Form 5329, but you should verify that your 2024 return correctly reports the earnings portion of the withdrawal as taxable income.

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Ethan Wilson

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This is really helpful - I think I've been making this more complicated than it needs to be. Just to clarify one more thing: when you say the $30 in earnings is subject to the 10% early withdrawal penalty, does that apply even though the withdrawal was to correct an excess contribution? I thought there might be an exception since it wasn't a voluntary distribution but rather a required correction. Also, should I expect to receive an amended 1099-R if my provider initially coded it incorrectly?

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Refund Status: Multiple 766 Credits and 810 Freeze from March on My Transcript - Will April 16 Credits Process Despite March Freeze?

I filed my taxes and looking at my transcript I'm seeing multiple codes that have me confused. Below is my transcript data that's worrying me: PROCESSING DATE A TRANSACTIONS CODE EXPLANATION OF TRANSACTION CYCLE DATE 150 Tax return filed 20241105 04-01-2024 76211-437-89449-4 806 W-2 or 1099 withholding 04-16-2024 810 Refund freeze 03-08-2024 766 Credit to your account 04-16-2024 766 Credit to your account 04-16-2024 766 Credit to your account 04-16-2024 768 Earned income credit 04-16-2024 960 Appointed representative 10-02-2024 This Product Contains Sensitive Taxpayer Data I see code 150 showing my tax return was filed with cycle code 20241105 dated 04-01-2024, but there's also a refund freeze code 810 from 03-08-2024 that's concerning me. I'm seeing multiple 766 credits all dated 04-16-2024, along with a 768 EIC (Earned Income Credit) code also dated 04-16-2024. There's also an 806 code for W-2/1099 withholding dated 04-16-2024, and interestingly a 960 code for appointed representative dated 10-02-2024. I pulled this directly from sa.www4.irs.gov and I'm not sure what to make of it. Why would I have a refund freeze from March when I filed in April? And what's with the appointed representative code in October (which hasn't even happened yet)? I don't recall appointing anyone. Can anyone help me understand what all these codes mean for my refund timeline? I'm particularly worried about that 810 freeze code from March. Will these credits (766 and 768) be released with my refund once the freeze is lifted? Is this a typical processing pattern or should I be contacting the IRS about the freeze?

Looks like your getting a decent refund with all those credits! Worth the wait ig šŸ¤‘

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The 810 freeze code from March is likely because the IRS flagged your return for review before you even filed in April - this can happen when they're cross-referencing data or if there are discrepancies they want to verify. Don't panic about the future dates either, the IRS system sometimes uses projected processing cycles. Your multiple 766 credits from April 16th look substantial, so once that freeze lifts you should see a nice refund. The 960 code for appointed representative is concerning though - if you didn't authorize anyone, you might want to call the IRS to verify no one has fraudulently gained access to your account. That could actually be related to why you have the 810 freeze in the first place. I'd suggest checking your online IRS account to see if there are any letters or notices waiting for you that might explain the review. Sometimes they just need you to verify your identity or provide additional documentation.

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IRS Code 420 Examination & 810 Refund Freeze on 2025 Return with EIC - Filed January, Notice 02-17, Timeline Help Needed

I got code 420 "Examination of tax return" on my transcript dated 01-31-2025 and now have a refund freeze (code 810) showing up. I claimed EIC (code 768 for Earned Income Credit) and filed in January. My transcript shows the examination started 01-31-2025, and I received a notice (code 971) on 02-17-2025. The processing date shows as Feb. 17, 2025, with cycle number 75221-421-16710-5. Here's the full information from my transcript: RETURN DUE DATE OR RETURN RECEIVED DATE (WHICHEVER IS LATER) Apr. 15, 2025 PROCESSING DATE Feb. 17, 2025 TRANSACTIONS CODE EXPLANATION OF TRANSACTION CYCLE DATE AMOUNT 150 Tax return filed 20250505 02-17-2025 75221-421-16710-5 766 Credit to your account 04-15-2025 768 Earned income credit 04-15-2025 810 Refund freeze 02-17-2025 $0.00 971 Notice issued 02-17-2025 $0.00 420 Examination of tax return 01-31-2025 $0.00 My transcript shows "This Product Contains Sensitive Taxpayer Data" at the bottom. The information section at the top shows: EXEMPTIONS: FILING STATUS: ADJUSTED GROSS INCOME: TAXABLE INCOME: TAX PER RETURN: SE TAXABLE INCOME TAXPAYER: SE TAXABLE INCOME SPOUSE: TOTAL SELF EMPLOYMENT TAX: Looking at my transcript codes in order: - 420: Examination of tax return (01-31-2025) - 810: Refund freeze (02-17-2025) - 971: Notice issued (02-17-2025) - 766: Credit to account (pending 04-15-2025) - 768: Earned income credit (pending 04-15-2025) - 150: Tax return filed (showing future cycle date 20250505 02-17-2025) Anyone else dealing with this examination and freeze situation? How long did it take to resolve? Really concerned about this since I'm waiting on my EIC. I filed in January but it seems like everything is delayed until April now with these holds. The notice wasn't very clear about what's happening or why my return is being examined.

Word of advice - make copies of EVERYTHING you send them. learned that the hard way last year when they 'lost' my documents šŸ™„

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This!!! And send certified mail so they cant claim they never got it!

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Nia Thompson

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Based on your transcript, the examination timeline looks pretty standard for EIC verification. The key thing to watch for is that Code 971 notice - it should arrive within the next few days if it hasn't already. When it does come, read it carefully because it will tell you exactly what documents they need to verify your EIC claim. The good news is your credits (766 and 768) are still showing for April 15th, which means they haven't been removed yet. This suggests the review is just verification, not a denial. Most EIC examinations I've seen resolve within 6-10 weeks if you respond quickly with the right documentation. Keep checking your transcript weekly for updates and be ready to send whatever they request via certified mail. The waiting sucks but it's pretty routine unfortunately.

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For anyone dealing with ESPPs, here's a simple way to think about it: If your discount ISN'T on your W2: 1. You need to report the discount as ordinary income 2. Adjust your cost basis upward by the discount amount 3. This prevents double taxation and correctly calculates capital gains/losses If your discount IS on your W2: 1. The company already reported it as compensation 2. Use the numbers on 1099-B as they appear 3. No adjustment needed For freetaxusa specifically, there's a section where you can enter supplemental income that wasn't reported on tax forms. Then when entering your 1099-B, make sure to check the box that allows you to adjust cost basis and enter the explanation.

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Paolo Longo

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Where exactly in freetaxusa do you adjust the cost basis? I can't seem to find it. Also, is there a specific explanation I should write for the adjustment?

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When you enter your 1099-B information in freetaxusa, you'll see a question asking if you need to adjust the basis amount reported to the IRS. Select "Yes" to this question. Then you can enter your adjusted cost basis and provide an explanation. For the explanation, keep it simple but clear: "Adjusting cost basis to include ESPP discount of $X which was not reported on W2 as compensation income." I also recommend keeping a separate worksheet showing your calculations in case of audit.

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Amina Bah

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I messed up reporting my ESPP sales last year and had to file an amended return. Make sure you check your ESPP plan document! Some plans are "qualified" and others are "non-qualified" which affects how/when you report the discount. For qualified plans with a holding period requirement, you might need to report different amounts depending on if you did a qualifying or disqualifying disposition. For non-qualified plans, the discount is taxable when you purchase the shares.

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How do you know if your plan is qualified or non-qualified? My company just calls it an ESPP and I can't find any more details than that.

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Amina Sy

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I went through this same nightmare last year! Here's what I learned the hard way: **Absolutely try Wells Fargo first** - as others mentioned, they're TPG's actual banking partner. I walked into one with just my ID and TPG check, and they cashed it with zero fees. No account needed. This should be your first stop. **If Wells Fargo doesn't work out:** • Walmart MoneyCenter is solid - usually $4 for checks under $1,000 • Some Kroger locations charge less if you have their Plus Card (around $5-7 flat) • Credit unions are often more flexible than big banks, even for non-members **Pro tip:** Call your bank's customer service and mention it's a federal tax refund check. Sometimes they'll reduce the hold period to 1-2 days instead of 10, especially if you explain your situation. I made the mistake of going to a payday loan place first and they wanted $85 on my $2,800 refund! Don't make my mistake. The Wells Fargo route literally saved me from paying any fees at all. Good luck getting your money quickly! šŸ¤ž

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This is exactly the kind of comprehensive breakdown I needed to see! Your experience really highlights how predatory some of these check-cashing places can be - $85 on a $2,800 refund is absolutely outrageous. I'm definitely going to try the Wells Fargo route first since multiple people have confirmed it works. The tip about calling your bank's customer service to mention it's a federal tax refund is something I hadn't considered either. Sometimes a simple phone call can make all the difference in getting those holds reduced. Thank you for sharing both what worked AND what didn't work - those cautionary tales are just as valuable as the success stories!

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Nick Kravitz

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I've been through this exact situation multiple times and want to add a few more options that have worked for me: **Navy Federal Credit Union** - Even if you're not military, they'll often cash government-related checks (including tax refunds) for a small fee if you explain the situation politely. I've had success at several locations. **Local community banks** - These are often more flexible than the big chains. I once had a small regional bank cash my TPG check for just $3 because they said they "believe in helping people access their own money." **Costco** - If you have a membership, their Member Services desk will sometimes cash checks, especially tax refunds, though policies vary by location. One thing I learned: always bring additional documentation beyond just your ID. Having your tax return copy or the IRS letter about your refund can help convince places to work with you, especially at banks where you're not a customer. Also, if you're really stuck and it's urgent, some banks will give you a cash advance against the deposited check for a small fee (usually much less than check-cashing places) while the hold period runs out. Worth asking about if the Wells Fargo route doesn't pan out!

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