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Mason Kaczka

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Has anyone actually withdrawn their excess HSA contribution? I called my HSA provider (HealthEquity) about this and they made it sound super complicated. They said I needed to request a "distribution of excess contributions" and that I'd get a special tax form for it. But then I'd need to sort out how much earnings those excess contributions had made?? How do you even calculate that? The whole thing sounds like a headache.

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Sophia Russo

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Yep, I did this with Fidelity HSA. It's actually not that complicated. Your HSA provider calculates the earnings portion for you - you don't have to figure it out yourself. They'll issue you a corrected tax form showing the withdrawal of excess contributions and any earnings. The excess contribution amount isn't taxable (since you already paid tax on it), but the earnings portion is taxable in the year you made the excess contribution. Just make sure you specifically request a "return of excess contributions" not a regular distribution.

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I went through this exact situation two years ago and wanted to share what I learned. First, definitely get that $125 distribution error fixed on your amendment - the IRS can be picky about HSA reporting accuracy. For the $550 excess, I'd strongly recommend calling your HSA provider ASAP to request a return of excess contributions rather than carrying it forward. Even though you've already filed, you likely still have time if you're within the extended deadline (October 15th). Here's why this approach is better: when you carry forward an excess contribution, you'll pay the 6% excise tax ($33) this year, and if you mess up the math on reducing next year's contributions (which is easy to do), you could end up paying the penalty multiple years. I made that mistake and ended up owing penalties for three years before I figured out how to properly "use up" the excess. The return of excess contributions route means you pay tax on any earnings, file one amendment to fix everything, and you're done. Much cleaner. Your HSA provider should be able to calculate the earnings portion automatically - you don't have to figure that out yourself.

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This is really helpful advice! I'm dealing with a similar HSA mess and I'm curious - when you say "if you mess up the math on reducing next year's contributions" - is there a specific calculation or form that helps track this correctly? I'm worried about making the same multi-year mistake you described. Also, did your HSA provider give you any pushback when you requested the return of excess contributions, or was it pretty straightforward once you knew to ask for it specifically?

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Mia Roberts

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Don't forget about potential foreign exchange implications! If you're sending USD to a foreign sub that operates in another currency, you'll need to account for forex gains/losses on those intercompany loans. This can get messy depending on the functional currency of each entity and how often exchange rates fluctuate.

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The Boss

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Good point. We deal with this with our German subsidiary. Do you have any practical advice for handling the currency translation? We've been using monthly averages but our auditors are questioning if we should be using spot rates for each transaction.

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QuantumQuest

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For currency translation on intercompany loans, you generally have flexibility in choosing your method as long as you're consistent. Monthly averages are acceptable under ASC 830, but spot rates at transaction dates can be more precise if you have the systems to track them. The key is documenting your policy and sticking to it. Since you're dealing with irregular funding amounts, I'd recommend using spot rates for each drawdown if possible - it gives you better matching of the economic reality and is harder for auditors to challenge. Just make sure your loan agreements specify which currency the obligation is denominated in and how you'll handle the translation. Also consider whether you want to designate the intercompany loan as a hedge of your net investment in the foreign subsidiary under ASC 815 - this can help manage some of the P&L volatility from forex movements.

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Lydia Bailey

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the importance of considering your state tax implications as well. Many states have their own rules around intercompany transactions and transfer pricing that don't always align with federal treatment. For example, some states require separate accounting for intercompany interest income/expense, and others have specific addback requirements that could affect your state tax liability. California and New York are particularly aggressive in this area. Also, since you mentioned this is your first time dealing with international tax at scale, I'd strongly recommend getting a transfer pricing study done by a qualified professional if your transaction volumes are significant. The IRS has been increasingly focused on intercompany pricing audits, especially for tech companies with IP development across multiple jurisdictions. Having proper documentation upfront is much cheaper than trying to reconstruct it during an audit.

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This is really helpful - I hadn't thought about the state tax implications at all. We're incorporated in Delaware but have operations in California, so this could definitely impact us. Do you know if there are any good resources for understanding how different states treat intercompany interest? Also, at what transaction volume threshold would you typically recommend getting a formal transfer pricing study? We're probably looking at around $2-3M annually in total transfers to the foreign sub.

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Mia Roberts

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Make sure u also consider what happens with state taxes! Some states follow federal MFS rules but others dont. We almost messed this up cuz our state (Oregon) had different rules for MFS filers selling a home than the federal govt does.

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The Boss

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What were the differences in Oregon? I'm in NC and now I'm worried about state-specific issues too.

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I went through this exact situation last year and want to share what I learned. The key thing is to make sure you're splitting based on actual ownership, not just convenience. Since you mentioned the deed has both your names and you're in Florida (non-community property state), you'll each report 50% of the sale. One thing that caught me off guard was tracking down all the documentation for basis adjustments. Keep receipts for any major improvements you made - new roof, HVAC system, kitchen remodel, etc. These increase your basis and reduce your taxable gain. I found old receipts in my files that saved us about $15,000 in reportable gain. Also, don't forget about selling expenses like realtor commissions, title insurance, and closing costs - these reduce your proceeds and lower your gain. Each of you can deduct 50% of these costs on your respective returns. The $250,000 exclusion per person when filing separately is usually more than enough for most people, but make sure you both meet the 2-out-of-5-years residency test independently. Good luck!

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Zoe Gonzalez

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This is really helpful advice! I'm curious about the documentation aspect - how far back should someone typically look for improvement receipts? We've lived in our house for about 8 years and I know we've done various projects over time, but I'm not sure what counts as a "major improvement" vs regular maintenance. Also, do you happen to know if things like landscaping or fence installation would qualify for basis adjustments?

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Does anyone know if the 10-year rule applies in this situation or if you can stretch the distributions? I inherited my dad's IRA in 2022 also and my financial advisor is telling me I HAVE to empty it in 10 years, but I'm seeing conflicting info online.

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The rules changed with the SECURE Act, but there are exceptions. If the original owner died after their Required Beginning Date (when they had to start RMDs), beneficiaries still need to take annual RMDs AND empty the account within 10 years. If they died before their Required Beginning Date, non-spouse beneficiaries just need to empty the account within 10 years, with no annual RMDs required during that period.

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The complexity of your situation actually highlights why many people struggle with inherited IRA rules. Since your father was 75+ when he passed in January 2022, he was definitely required to be taking RMDs, which means you'll need to continue taking annual distributions while also emptying the account within 10 years. The good news is that the IRS has been relatively lenient with inherited IRA penalties during 2022-2023 while they finalized regulations. Your court documentation showing when you actually gained control of the assets will be crucial evidence if any penalties are assessed. Here's what I'd recommend: First, contact the IRA custodian immediately to get a complete distribution history for your father's account - you need to know if he missed any RMDs before his death. Second, calculate your 2024 RMD based on the account balance as of December 31, 2023, and take it before year-end. Third, document everything related to your legal battle for control of the estate. The fact that you couldn't access the funds until 2024 due to legal proceedings should provide reasonable cause for any missed distributions. Just make sure you're current going forward and keep all your court documentation.

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This is really helpful advice, thank you! I'm definitely going to contact the IRA custodian first thing Monday to get that distribution history. One question - when you mention calculating my 2024 RMD based on the December 31, 2023 balance, how do I figure out what that balance should be if my dad potentially missed RMDs before he died? Do I use the actual balance on that date, or do I need to calculate what it would have been if he had taken proper distributions? Also, since I only got control of my portion in June 2024 when it was rolled into the Inherited IRA, should I be calculating based on the full original account balance or just my 50% share?

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is it possible that the IRS notice is about something besides the extra withholding? sometimes they send W-4s for other reasons too like if your allowances are way off from what they think you should claim. did the notice mention anything specific?

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Ava Johnson

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Good point! When I got a W-4 notice last year, it wasn't about extra withholding at all. It was because I had claimed "exempt" the previous year when I was a student, and then I started a full-time job. They wanted me to update my status since I no longer qualified for exemption.

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NebulaNomad

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I've been through this exact situation! Got a similar notice when I increased my withholding by about $40 per paycheck. The IRS notice can be scary at first, but it's really just their way of confirming you made the change intentionally. What you did is totally normal and smart - having extra withholding helps ensure you don't owe money at tax time. The IRS automated system flagged the change because it was different from your previous withholding pattern, not because you did anything wrong. Make sure to read the notice carefully for response instructions. Usually they just want you to confirm that you authorized the W-4 change. You can typically respond by phone or mail. Don't stress about it - this is more of a security check than anything punitive. Keep doing the extra withholding if it works for your financial planning!

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Ali Anderson

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This is really reassuring to hear from someone who went through the same thing! I was definitely panicking when I first saw the notice. How long did it take for you to get confirmation back from the IRS after you responded? I'm worried they might keep sending more notices if I don't handle this correctly.

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