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Aisha Ali

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm also dealing with a solo 401k for my freelance writing business alongside my W2 job. One thing I wanted to add that might help others - make sure you understand the difference between "net earnings from self-employment" and "net profit" from your Schedule C. For solo 401k calculations, you use net earnings from self-employment (which is your Schedule C profit minus half the SE tax), not just the net profit line from Schedule C. I made this mistake my first year and initially calculated my contribution limit too high. Also, if anyone is using tax software, most of the major programs (TurboTax, H&R Block, etc.) will calculate your maximum solo 401k contribution automatically once you enter your self-employment income. But it's still good to understand the math behind it like everyone has explained here. One last tip - if you're close to year-end and trying to decide how much to contribute, remember that you can always contribute less than the maximum, but you can't go over without penalties. When in doubt, be conservative with your calculation!

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This is exactly the kind of clarification I needed! I was definitely confusing Schedule C net profit with net earnings from self-employment. Thank you for pointing out that distinction - it could have saved me from making a costly error. Your point about tax software automatically calculating this is reassuring too. I've been doing everything manually because I wanted to understand it, but it's good to know there's a backup check built into most tax programs. The conservative approach makes a lot of sense, especially for someone new to solo 401k contributions like me. Better to contribute a bit less than deal with excess contribution penalties and the headache of correcting them later. Has anyone here actually had to deal with fixing an excess contribution? I'm curious how complicated that process is.

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Mei Chen

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I actually had to deal with an excess contribution correction a few years ago - it's definitely more hassle than it's worth! I miscalculated my net self-employment earnings and contributed about $800 more than I was allowed. The correction process involved contacting my solo 401k provider, filling out forms to withdraw the excess plus any earnings on that money, and then dealing with the tax implications. The earnings on the excess contribution had to be reported as income for the year I made the contribution, even though I was correcting it the following year. It also delayed my tax filing because I had to wait for the corrected forms from the 401k provider. The whole thing took about 6 weeks to resolve and created extra paperwork headaches. So definitely agree with taking the conservative approach! If you're unsure between two amounts, go with the lower one. You can always contribute more to other retirement accounts if you have extra room in your budget. The IRS is much more forgiving of under-contributing than over-contributing to retirement plans. For the original poster's wife with $19,750 in income, that $3,671 maximum contribution calculation looks solid based on all the discussion here. Just make sure to establish the solo 401k before December 31st if she hasn't already!

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Connor Byrne

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Thanks for sharing your experience with the excess contribution correction - that sounds like a real nightmare! The fact that you had to report the earnings as income even while correcting the mistake is particularly frustrating. Six weeks and delayed tax filing definitely isn't worth the risk. Your point about the IRS being more forgiving of under-contributing really resonates. I'm just getting started with solo 401k planning for my new side business, and I was leaning toward being aggressive with contributions to maximize tax benefits. But hearing about the actual consequences of getting it wrong makes me think I should definitely err on the conservative side, at least for my first year until I get more comfortable with the calculations. Quick question - when you had to withdraw the excess plus earnings, did that mess up your contribution limits for the current year? Like, did the withdrawal count against your current year's contribution space, or was it treated separately since it was a correction?

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StormChaser

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I'm currently on unemployment and can add some perspective here. Your 2023 tax refund is completely separate from any unemployment benefits you'll receive in 2024 - they won't interact at all. The IRS processes your tax return based solely on what happened in 2023, so go ahead and file with confidence. However, I want to echo what others have said about tax withholding on unemployment benefits. When you apply, you'll likely see an option to have federal taxes withheld (usually 10%). I strongly recommend choosing this option. Unemployment benefits are fully taxable income, and if you don't have taxes withheld, you could end up owing a significant amount next April. One more tip - if your state has an online unemployment portal, you can usually change your tax withholding election even after you've started receiving benefits. So if you forget to elect it initially, you can still add it later. Better to have slightly smaller weekly payments now than a nasty surprise on your 2024 tax return!

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Chloe Harris

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This is such helpful advice, thank you! I'm feeling much more confident about filing my 2023 taxes now knowing that unemployment won't mess with my refund. The tax withholding tip is really valuable too - I definitely don't want to get blindsided by a huge tax bill next year. It's good to know I can change the withholding election later if I forget to do it when I first apply. I really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences here, it's making this whole situation feel much less overwhelming!

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Adding to what everyone has already covered - your 2023 tax refund is completely safe from any unemployment benefits you'll receive in 2024. The IRS processes each tax year independently, so filing for unemployment now won't delay or reduce your current refund at all. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that you should also keep track of any job search expenses while you're unemployed. Things like career counseling, job placement agency fees, resume preparation services, and even travel costs for interviews can potentially be deductible on your 2024 tax return if you end up itemizing deductions. Also, depending on your state, you might be able to receive unemployment benefits even if you're doing some part-time or gig work while job hunting. Each state has different rules about how much you can earn before it affects your weekly benefit amount. Just make sure to report any income honestly when you certify for benefits each week. The tax withholding advice everyone's giving is spot-on - definitely elect to have the 10% federal taxes withheld from your unemployment payments. It might feel like you're getting less money now, but it'll save you from a potentially painful tax bill next year. Good luck with your job search!

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This is really comprehensive advice, thank you! I hadn't thought about tracking job search expenses - that could actually add up to a decent amount over several months of searching. Do you know if there's a minimum threshold for those deductions to be worth itemizing, or is it worth tracking even smaller expenses like gas for interviews? Also, the part about potentially doing some gig work while on unemployment is interesting - I was worried that any income at all would disqualify me completely. I'll definitely look into my state's specific rules about that. Thanks for all the helpful details!

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Mateo Lopez

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Just want to add another perspective on the health insurance piece - we handled this by having our LLC reimburse partners for their actual health insurance costs rather than paying the premiums directly. This way it shows up as a business expense for the LLC and reduces the taxable income allocated to all partners proportionally, rather than creating guaranteed payment income for just the insured partners. At year-end, we adjust distributions to account for these reimbursements so everyone ends up with their intended net amounts. Partners who got health insurance reimbursements receive smaller cash distributions, while others get larger ones. This approach has worked well for us and keeps the tax treatment simpler since there are no 1099s to deal with. Your operating agreement should definitely include flexible distribution language as others mentioned. We use wording that allows distributions "in such amounts and proportions as determined by unanimous consent of the members, which may differ from membership percentage interests." Having this flexibility built in from the start saves you from needing amendments later.

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Jenna Sloan

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This reimbursement approach sounds really smart! I'm curious though - when you reimburse partners for health insurance costs, are you treating those as medical expense reimbursements under an accountable plan, or just as regular business expense reimbursements? I've heard there can be different tax implications depending on how it's structured. Also, do you require partners to submit actual insurance bills/receipts, or do you just go with their stated premium amounts? Want to make sure we set up the right documentation requirements from the start.

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm dealing with a similar situation in my 3-member LLC where we want flexibility for unequal distributions based on varying time contributions and expenses. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is how these distribution decisions affect your capital accounts for tax purposes. When you do disproportionate cash distributions, you need to make sure your capital account tracking reflects the actual economic arrangements, not just the cash flow. Our tax preparer explained that if your capital accounts get out of whack with the underlying economics, it could cause issues with loss limitations or if someone exits the partnership later. We ended up having to maintain detailed capital account records that track both the tax allocations (which stay proportional to ownership) and the actual cash distributions. Also want to echo what others said about state law - definitely check your state's requirements. Some states have restrictions on distributions that could impair the LLC's ability to pay debts, so you want to make sure your distribution policy doesn't run afoul of those rules. The operating agreement language is crucial. We added a section that specifically allows distributions to be made "in amounts and at times as may be determined by the members, taking into account the business needs of the Company and the individual circumstances of the members." This gives us flexibility while making it clear that business considerations come first.

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This is exactly the kind of detail I was looking for! The capital account tracking piece is something our accountant briefly mentioned but didn't fully explain. When you say the capital accounts need to reflect "actual economic arrangements," does that mean if Partner A gets a larger cash distribution due to health insurance reimbursements, their capital account balance gets reduced more than the others even though the tax allocation stays proportional? I'm also curious about the "business considerations come first" language in your operating agreement - does that help protect against potential challenges if distributions seem unfair to outside parties or if there's ever a dispute between members? We want to make sure we're not creating problems down the road by being too flexible with our distribution arrangements.

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Anita George

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Same boat here! Filed 2/3 and Oregon site says deposit on the 15th. Using Varo and they usually drop deposits 2 days early but nothing yet. Really hoping it hits tomorrow or Tuesday šŸ¤ž The waiting game is brutal when you're counting on that money!

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Ugh same! I'm with Varo too and keep checking every few hours 😭 Really thought it would hit by now since they're usually good about early deposits. Fingers crossed we both get some good news soon!

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I'm still waiting too! Filed on 2/5 with Credit Karma Money and they usually do early deposits but nothing yet. The anticipation is killing me šŸ˜… At least it sounds like some Cash App users are getting theirs early which gives me hope. Maybe tomorrow will be our lucky day!

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atleast ur helping ur kids out. had same situation last year, rest came like a month after offset

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Amy Fleming

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facts šŸ’Æ just hoping it comes before summer

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NeonNebula

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Been through this exact situation before. The offset process can be confusing but you'll definitely get your remaining $4k. Just keep monitoring your transcript for code 766 (credit to your account) and code 898 (offset). Once the offset processes, you should see the remainder deposit within 2-4 weeks. The wait is annoying but at least you know the money is coming!

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