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I've got a small photography LLC with S-Corp election that unfortunately ran at a Net Operating Loss (NOL) this past year. Equipment investments and slow bookings really hit us hard. My personal income for the year is actually below the standard deduction, so I don't owe anything there, but I'd really like to carry the business loss (NOL) forward on my 1040 to use in a future year when my business hopefully rebounds. I've been trying to figure this out myself but hitting roadblocks: 1. Is it correct that the NOL amount goes on line 21 on the 1040? That's what I think but not 100% sure. 2. Can I claim my entire NOL amount (my share after distribution through the S-Corp), or is there some maximum percentage I'm allowed to use? 3. I read somewhere that I need to show/calculate the NOL amount on some specific worksheet, but I can't find the right IRS form number for this anywhere... Thanks in advance for any help! This is my first year dealing with a business loss and I'm completely lost with the paperwork.
I've been a full-time student throughout 2024 while taking care of my 3-year-old daughter. I didn't work during this time, and both my daughter and I received Medicaid throughout the year. I previously claimed her on my taxes last year. Now that I've graduated and found a job with health insurance benefits starting in 2025, her father wants to claim her on this year's taxes to get the child tax credit. He's been helping support both of us financially all year (including helping with my student loans). My concern is: if her father claims her when we file taxes this February, will we get hit with any bills or penalties for the Medicaid coverage we received in 2024? I understand she won't qualify for Medicaid in 2025 since I now have a job with health insurance, but I'm worried about potential repercussions for the benefits we already used. I want her dad to get the child tax credit since he's been supporting us, but not if it means we'll suddenly owe money for her Medicaid coverage from last year. Does anyone know if there are implications when someone who wouldn't qualify for Medicaid claims a child who received those benefits?
Just a heads up - make sure your daughter's father isn't claiming the Earned Income Credit (EIC) if he's taking the Child Tax Credit. The rules for EIC are different and require the child to have lived with the taxpayer for more than half the year. If he claims both and gets audited, it could cause problems for both of you.
This isn't completely accurate. He can still claim EIC if he meets all the other requirements, but he can't use THIS child for EIC purposes if she didn't live with him for more than half the year. He could still get EIC based on his income alone or based on other qualifying children who did live with him.
Based on what everyone's shared here, it sounds like you're in good shape regarding your past Medicaid benefits. The key thing to remember is that Medicaid eligibility is determined based on your circumstances at the time you received the benefits, not who claims your daughter on taxes later. Since you accurately reported your household situation when you applied for and maintained Medicaid coverage throughout 2024, allowing her father to claim the child tax credit shouldn't create any retroactive issues with the benefits you already received. Just make sure you follow the proper procedures - complete Form 8332 as mentioned above to officially release your claim to the exemption, and don't forget to report your new employment status to your state Medicaid office for future coverage decisions. This way you're being transparent about your changing circumstances while protecting the benefits you legitimately received when you qualified for them. It's really nice that her father has been supporting you both, and it sounds fair that he should get the tax benefit for that support!
Hello everyone. I've been creating a spreadsheet to track my income, finances and benefit contributions and I'm confused about something. From what I've read, Social Security and Medicare are supposed to be taxed at flat rates on gross income - 6.2% and 1.45% respectively. But when I look at my actual paychecks, the amounts being taken out don't match these percentages. My last paycheck showed only 5.86% deducted for Social Security and 1.37% for Medicare. These seem pretty close but definitely not exact. Is there something I'm missing? Can these percentages vary for some reason? Maybe there are certain income types that aren't subject to the full rates? I'm trying to make my calculations accurate but can't figure out why my numbers don't line up with what I expected. Thanks for any help you can give me!
One thing to check: are you calculating the percentages against your gross pay or your "FICA wages" specifically? Most paystubs actually list a separate line for "FICA wages" or "Social Security wages" which already accounts for pre-tax deductions. If you divide your SS tax by THAT number, you should get exactly 6.2%.
This is such a helpful thread! I've been struggling with the same issue and it's great to see so many different explanations. Just wanted to add one more thing that caught me off guard - if you have any dependent care FSA contributions, those are also pre-tax for FICA purposes (up to $5,000/year). I was only contributing $100/month but it was enough to throw off my calculations slightly. It's one of those smaller deductions that's easy to overlook when you're trying to figure out why your percentages don't match the standard rates. Between health insurance, 401k, transit benefits, and dependent care FSA, it all adds up to explain the discrepancy!
I completely spaced on my estimated tax payment for Q4 2024 and now I'm trying to fix it before things get worse. When I go to the IRS website to make the payment online, it's only giving me options for tax year 2025 payments. Frustrating! I saw something about using the "pay towards your balance" option instead of the estimated tax option. Has anyone done this? Would this work for making a late Q4 payment? The other thing I'm confused about is whether I need to fill out that 1040-ES form. My eyes glazed over looking at it lol. My buddy who does his own taxes said I could just calculate a payment based on what tax bracket I'll be in and send that amount without the form. Is that true? Or should I just wait and deal with this when I file my 2024 taxes? Will the penalties be really bad if I just wait? This is my first year being self-employed and I'm still figuring things out...
Has anyone here actually calculated what the penalty would be for a missed Q4 payment? I'm trying to figure out if it's worth the hassle of making a separate payment now vs just handling it when I file in April. If I owe roughly $2,000 for Q4, how bad would the penalty be?
I did this calculation recently. For a $2,000 missed Q4 payment, assuming you're paying it with your tax return around April 15, the penalty would be roughly $30-40. The underpayment penalty rate is currently about 8% annually, calculated daily. Q4 payment was due January 16, so that's about 3 months of penalty time, or about 2% total. It's not enormous, but why give the IRS free money if you can avoid it?
For the IRS website issue, you're absolutely right - since we're in 2025 now, the estimated tax payment option defaults to the current year. The workaround is to use "Make a Payment" and select "Apply Payment to Account" or "Amount Owed" instead of the estimated tax option. When you get to the payment screen, you can specify tax year 2024. Regarding the 1040-ES form - your buddy is partially right. You don't need to mail the form to the IRS, but you should still use it to calculate the correct payment amount rather than just guessing based on tax brackets. The form accounts for your specific situation, deductions, and credits. It's worth the 20 minutes to fill out, especially as a new self-employed person. Don't wait until you file your return. The underpayment penalty starts accruing from the original due date (January 16, 2025 for Q4 2024), not when you file. Even if the penalty isn't huge, making the payment now shows good faith and stops the daily interest charges. Plus, you'll have one less thing to worry about when tax season gets hectic. Welcome to self-employment! The estimated tax system takes some getting used to, but you'll get the hang of it.
My daughter turned 18 in November and is a freshman in college. She's been working part-time at the campus bookstore since September, making about $190 a week. I'm a single mom and have always claimed her for the Earned Income Tax Credit in previous years. She still lives with me when not in the dorms, and I pay for most of her expenses including tuition, food, car insurance, phone, etc. I'm really confused about the EITC rules this year. Can I still claim her even though she's working? She made around $2,800 total in 2024. I provide well over half her support, but does her income disqualify her as my qualifying child for EITC purposes? I'm worried about losing that credit because I really depend on that refund money every year.
Just to add another point - remember that for EITC, your daughter needs to have lived with you for more than half the year. Time away at college counts as temporary absence so that's fine in your case. But also double-check if your income falls within the EITC limits since they change every year.
One thing to keep in mind is that even though your daughter can file her own return for her bookstore income, she likely won't owe any federal taxes since she only made $2,800 (well below the standard deduction). However, she should still file if taxes were withheld from her paychecks - she'll probably get a full refund of any federal taxes that were taken out. Also, since you mentioned you're a single mom, make sure you're filing as Head of Household rather than Single - this gives you a higher standard deduction and potentially more favorable tax brackets. You qualify for Head of Household status since you're unmarried and have a qualifying dependent living with you for more than half the year.
Brielle Johnson
Quick question for anyone who's dealt with this recently - I'm using TurboTax Business for my S-Corp and personal returns. Does it automatically handle the NOL carryforward worksheets and calculations between tax years? Or do I need to manually track this somewhere?
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Honorah King
I used TurboTax last year for my S-Corp NOL and it mostly handled the calculations but didn't seem to create all the supporting worksheets automatically. I had to manually track some things and then input them again the following year. The software didn't seem to carry forward all the NOL details automatically between tax years. I'd recommend keeping your own separate tracking spreadsheet.
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Amara Chukwu
I'm dealing with a similar S-Corp NOL situation and wanted to add some practical tips from my experience last year. Make sure you have good documentation of your stock basis before claiming the loss - the IRS can challenge NOL deductions if you can't prove sufficient basis in your S-Corp stock. Keep detailed records of any loans you made to the company, capital contributions, and prior year income/losses. These all affect your basis calculation and determine how much of the NOL you can actually deduct. I had to reconstruct three years of basis calculations when the IRS questioned my NOL deduction. Also, consider whether the Section 199A QBI deduction might interact with your NOL situation in future profitable years. The interplay between NOLs and QBI can be complex, so it's worth understanding now while you're setting up your tracking systems. One more thing - if your photography business picks up significantly next year, be aware of the potential Section 461(l) excess business loss limitation. It caps business losses at $270,000 for single filers, with excess amounts treated as NOLs subject to the 80% limitation in future years.
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