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I just went through this exact process last month with our C-Corp name change. Here's what worked for us: We filed Form 8822-B as mentioned, but what really helped was calling the IRS Business & Specialty Tax Line at 800-829-4933 beforehand to confirm our approach. The agent told us that since we were close to our filing deadline, we could proceed with filing our return under the old name and check Box A for the name change election - this actually processes faster than waiting for the separate Form 8822-B. However, if you have time before your deadline, the Form 8822-B route is cleaner. Make sure to: 1. Include a copy of your state-filed articles of amendment 2. Write a brief cover letter explaining the name change effective date 3. Send it certified mail so you have proof of delivery One thing I learned - if you have employees, you'll also need to update your name with the Social Security Administration for payroll reporting. This is separate from the IRS update and requires Form W-2c corrections if you've already filed W-2s under the old name. The whole process took about 3 weeks total, which was faster than the 4-6 weeks they quoted. Good luck with your name change!
This is really helpful, thank you! I hadn't thought about the Social Security Administration aspect for payroll reporting. We do have employees, so I'll need to add that to our checklist. Quick question - you mentioned Form W-2c corrections if W-2s were already filed under the old name. Since we're doing this name change mid-year, do we need to file amended W-2s for the portion of the year under the old name, or can we just use the new name going forward for the rest of the year's payroll reporting? Also, did you find the certified mail was necessary, or was that just for your peace of mind? I'm trying to decide if regular mail would be sufficient to save a few dollars.
For mid-year name changes with employees, you typically don't need to file amended W-2s for the portion of the year under the old name. The IRS allows you to use the new name going forward once it's officially changed. However, you should update your name with SSA using Form W-2c only if there are discrepancies that need correction - not just for the name change itself. The key is consistency in your quarterly 941 filings. If you file Q1 and Q2 under the old name, then Q3 and Q4 under the new name, just make sure your annual reconciliation on Form 940/941 reflects the current legal name. Regarding certified mail - I'd strongly recommend it, especially given current IRS processing delays. It's not just peace of mind; it provides legal proof of delivery if there are any questions about timing or if your submission gets lost. For a few extra dollars, it can save you weeks of wondering if your paperwork was received. Plus, you can track delivery online, which is helpful for your records.
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the importance of timing your name change with your quarterly estimated tax payments if you make them. We learned this the hard way when our Q3 estimated payment was rejected because it was submitted under our new name but the IRS system still had us under the old name. If you're making estimated payments, either complete the name change process before your next payment is due, or continue making payments under your old name until the IRS processes the change. You can always call the Business Tax Line to confirm which name is currently on file in their system before submitting payments. Also, don't forget to update your name with your bank if you have a dedicated business account for tax payments. We had a payment bounce because the name on the electronic transfer didn't match what the IRS had on file. Small detail but can cause headaches if overlooked.
This is such an important point that I wish I had known earlier! We ran into a similar issue with our quarterly payments. After reading through this thread, I'm realizing there are so many interconnected pieces to consider with a corporate name change. I'm curious - did you have to do anything special to update your EFTPS (Electronic Federal Tax Payment System) account, or did that automatically update once the IRS processed your Form 8822-B? We use EFTPS for all our business tax payments, and I'm wondering if there's a separate step required there or if it syncs with the IRS name change automatically. Also, for anyone following this thread who might be in a similar situation, it sounds like creating a comprehensive checklist upfront is crucial. Between the IRS, state agencies, SSA, banks, and payment systems, there are a lot of moving parts that need to stay coordinated during the transition.
Has anyone actually tried OLT.com like the OP mentioned? I'm in a similar boat with about $25 in foreign taxes and looking to switch from TurboTax.
I've used OLT for the past two years and it works great for claiming small foreign tax credits directly on Schedule 3. Their interface isn't as slick as TurboTax, but they include all forms in their basic package ($9.95 last time I used it) including Form 1116 if you ever need it.
This is exactly the kind of situation where tax software companies make their money on unnecessary upsells! The $300 threshold rule that others mentioned is spot-on - you absolutely do not need to file Form 1116 for $1.89 in foreign taxes. I've been doing my own taxes for over a decade and have dealt with this same issue multiple times. The IRS specifically created the Schedule 3 direct entry method because they recognized that requiring Form 1116 for tiny amounts was burdensome for taxpayers and created unnecessary complexity. Just to add some additional context: this rule applies to "qualified foreign taxes" which includes taxes withheld on dividends from foreign stocks or international mutual funds/ETFs. Make sure your $1.89 falls into this category (which it almost certainly does based on your description). You can literally save yourself $68 and claim that credit on any free tax software that includes Schedule 3. Don't let TurboTax guilt you into thinking you need their premium version for such a basic tax situation!
I think there's another point worth mentioning - the type of account matters a lot here. If this is in a retirement account like an IRA or 401k, the basis calculation works completely differently than in a taxable brokerage account. For traditional retirement accounts, withdrawals are generally taxed as ordinary income regardless of basis.
Great point about account types! Just to add some clarity for anyone reading - if this is a Roth IRA, the rules are different too. With Roth accounts, you can withdraw your original contributions (basis) at any time tax-free, but earnings withdrawals before age 59½ may be subject to taxes and penalties. For taxable accounts like the original poster seems to be describing, the proportional method mentioned earlier is typically the default, but as others have noted, you might have options like specific identification that could be more tax-efficient depending on your situation. Keep detailed records of all your transactions including dates, amounts, and any reinvested dividends - this will make basis calculations much easier whether you do them manually or use software to help.
This is really helpful clarification! I'm actually dealing with a taxable brokerage account like you mentioned, so the proportional method seems like the right approach for my situation. I hadn't realized how different the rules are for retirement accounts vs regular investment accounts. One follow-up question - when you say "keep detailed records," what specific information should I be tracking beyond just the purchase dates and amounts? Should I be documenting things like dividend reinvestments separately, or does my broker usually handle that automatically in their cost basis reporting?
Great question about record keeping! Beyond purchase dates and amounts, you should definitely track dividend reinvestments separately - each reinvestment creates a new "lot" with its own cost basis and date. Also keep records of any stock splits, spin-offs, or merger transactions as these can affect your basis calculations. While many brokers now provide decent cost basis reporting (especially for shares purchased after 2011), they don't always have complete historical data, particularly if you transferred accounts or held investments before the reporting requirements kicked in. I'd recommend keeping your own spreadsheet or using investment tracking software to maintain a complete picture. Also document any return of capital distributions (common with REITs and some funds) as these reduce your cost basis rather than being taxable income. Having this documentation will save you major headaches during tax season, especially if you're using methods like specific identification for tax optimization.
Something else to consider: the $3k limit is per tax return, not per investment type. So combined with your stock losses, you still can only deduct $3k total of excess capital losses against ordinary income each year. Also, watch out for the investment interest expense deduction limitations. Real estate funds often have interest expenses that flow through, but there are limits on how much you can deduct based on your investment income. This tripped me up the first year I invested in a partnership.
The investment interest expense rules are so confusing. I think those are reported separately on the K-1 in box 13 with code A? Do those actually count as itemized deductions? I never know if I should be taking those since I usually just take the standard deduction.
You're right about box 13 code A - that's where investment interest expense shows up on the K-1. And yes, these are itemized deductions reported on Schedule A. If you're taking the standard deduction, you won't get any benefit from them currently. However, any investment interest expense that exceeds your net investment income gets carried forward indefinitely. So even if you take the standard deduction now, if you itemize in future years, you can use those carried-forward investment interest expenses. Worth tracking even if you can't use them immediately.
Great question! I've been dealing with K-1s from real estate investments for a few years now, and there are definitely some nuances to understand beyond just the basic capital loss treatment. One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is the timing of when you receive your K-1. Real estate funds are notorious for issuing K-1s late in the tax season (sometimes requiring extensions), which can complicate your tax planning. Make sure you're prepared for potential filing extensions. Also, pay close attention to any Section 199A deductions that might flow through on the K-1. Real estate investments can qualify for the 20% qualified business income deduction, which can significantly reduce your tax liability on any income generated by the fund. Regarding your specific questions - yes, the capital losses can offset stock gains, and the carryforward rules apply the same way. Just remember that if this is a leveraged real estate fund, you'll need to track your basis carefully since debt increases your basis but losses reduce it. You can only claim losses up to your basis in the partnership. Before investing, I'd also ask the fund managers for their historical K-1s from other funds to see exactly what types of income and losses typically flow through. This will give you a much better picture of the tax implications than just their general descriptions.
This is really helpful information, especially about the Section 199A deduction potential! I hadn't considered that real estate funds might qualify for the QBI deduction. One follow-up question about the basis tracking you mentioned - if the fund takes on additional debt during the investment period, does that automatically increase my basis, or do I need to do something specific to claim that basis increase? And how do I actually track this if the K-1 doesn't clearly show the debt changes from year to year? Also, great point about asking for historical K-1s from their other funds. That seems like something any legitimate fund manager should be willing to provide to help investors understand what they're getting into.
Great question about basis tracking! Yes, increases in partnership debt automatically increase your basis as a partner, but tracking it can be tricky since K-1s don't always show the year-over-year debt changes clearly. Most real estate funds will include supplemental information or footnotes on the K-1 that show your share of partnership liabilities at year-end. You'll want to compare this to the prior year to see the change. Some funds also provide a separate basis calculation worksheet that breaks down all the components - contributions, income, distributions, losses, and debt changes. If your fund doesn't provide clear basis tracking information, you should absolutely request it. This is critical information for determining how much of your losses you can actually claim. I've seen investors miss out on thousands in deductible losses simply because they didn't realize they had sufficient basis from debt increases. For the QBI deduction, it's worth noting that not all real estate activities qualify equally. The fund needs to be conducting an active trade or business (not just passive rental activities) to generate QBI. Ask the fund managers specifically about their QBI qualification and whether they expect to generate qualifying income versus non-qualifying investment income.
Emma Wilson
One thing I learned the hard way: keep track of which calendar year everything happens in. The 60-day recontribution rule is super helpful, but if your withdrawal was in December and the recontribution was in January, it can create complications since they cross tax years. In my case, I had to file a special form to carry the recontribution credit forward to the next tax year. Just something to be aware of if you're making withdrawals late in the year.
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Malik Thomas
ā¢This is such an important point that people miss! I had this exact situation where the refund from the school came in January 2024 but the original withdrawal was in December 2023. Created a huge headache with reporting. I ended up having to amend my 2023 return.
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Emma Wilson
ā¢If anyone runs into this December/January situation, the key form you need is Form 8913 "Credit for Recontribution of Qualified Higher Education Expenses." You file it with your return for the year when you made the original withdrawal. The form essentially lets you take a tax credit in the withdrawal year for recontributions you make in the following year, as long as you meet the 60-day rule. Your tax software might not prompt you for this form automatically, so you might need to specifically look for it or get help from a tax professional.
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Zoe Papadakis
This is a really detailed and helpful thread! I'm dealing with a similar situation but with a twist - my daughter received both a merit scholarship AND need-based financial aid that came through after I'd already made the 529 withdrawal. From what I'm reading here, it sounds like I have options with both the 60-day recontribution rule and the scholarship exception. But I'm wondering - can you use the scholarship exception for need-based aid too, or does it only apply to merit scholarships? The financial aid office classified her aid as a "need-based grant" rather than a scholarship. Also, if I have documentation showing both types of aid totaling more than what I withdrew, does that give me even more flexibility in how I handle the tax reporting? I want to make sure I'm taking advantage of all available options before I decide whether to recontribute or keep the money out for other education expenses.
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