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Has anyone here actually calculated how many trades you need to qualify for trader tax status? I've heard different numbers from different accountants.
The IRS doesn't give a specific number, but tax court cases suggest you need to trade 4-5 days per week with substantial number of trades (some say 1000+ per year), short holding periods (usually less than 30 days), and spend 4+ hours daily on your trading business. It's about showing it's a business, not just investing.
Just to add some clarity on the IRA question - your beneficiary IRA distributions will be taxed as ordinary income regardless of your trader status election. This is because IRAs don't have capital gains treatment to begin with. When you take distributions from a traditional IRA (including inherited ones), it's all ordinary income tax regardless of what investments were inside or how long they were held. So making the trader tax status election for your trading account won't make your IRA distributions any worse tax-wise - they were already going to be ordinary income. The election only affects your non-retirement trading account where you'd be giving up potential long-term capital gains treatment in exchange for the trader benefits like avoiding wash sales. Make sure you can handle losing long-term capital gains rates on any positions you might hold longer in your trading account before making this election.
10 One more thing to keep in mind - sometimes the 1095-A gets sent to an old address if you moved during the year. The Marketplace might not have your updated address if you didn't specifically update it with them (updating with Cigna isn't enough). Might be worth checking with your old address/mail forwarding if that applies to you.
Just wanted to add that if you're still having trouble accessing your Healthcare.gov account after trying password recovery, you can also visit a local Navigator or certified application counselor in your area. They can help you recover your account and access your 1095-A form in person for free. You can find locations near you on the Healthcare.gov website under "Get Help" or by calling the main number. Sometimes it's easier to sort this stuff out face-to-face, especially if you're dealing with multiple issues like address changes or forgotten login credentials.
This is really good advice! I had no idea there were local people who could help with this stuff for free. I've been struggling with online account recovery for weeks and getting more frustrated each day. Having someone physically there to walk through the process sounds so much better than trying to navigate all these websites and phone systems on my own. Do you know if they can also help with understanding what the numbers on the 1095-A mean once I get it? I'm worried I'll mess up entering the information into my tax software even after I find the form.
Has anyone dealt with PTPs in retirement accounts? I have some MLPs in my IRA and just got K-1s for them too. Do I need to report these since they're in a tax-advantaged account?
This is actually a really important question! PTPs in retirement accounts can create unexpected issues. If the PTP generates Unrelated Business Taxable Income (UBTI) over $1,000, your IRA itself might have to file a tax return (Form 990-T) and pay taxes, even though it's normally tax-advantaged. Look at Box 20, Code V on your K-1s - this shows UBTI. Many investors don't realize this can create a tax liability even within an IRA. If the amount is small, you might not need to worry, but it's something to monitor.
@Hailey O'Leary is absolutely right about the UBTI issue. I learned this the hard way when my IRA had to file Form 990-T and pay taxes on $1,200 of UBTI from an MLP I held. Your IRA custodian should handle the filing and payment, but they'll charge you fees for it (mine charged $150 for the filing plus the actual tax owed). Some custodians will even automatically liquidate part of your IRA holdings to cover these costs. Check with your IRA provider about their policy on UBTI - some will send you a bill, others will just deduct it from your account. Either way, it's an unpleasant surprise if you're not expecting it. Many people end up moving their PTP/MLP investments to taxable accounts to avoid this issue entirely.
I went through this exact same confusion last year with my PTP holdings! The key thing to remember is that the K-1 is the authoritative document - it shows your actual taxable income from the partnership. When you enter your brokerage 1099, look for a section that lets you exclude or adjust certain items. Most tax software will have options like "income reported elsewhere" or "excludable amounts" where you can back out the PTP distributions that appear on your 1099-DIV or 1099-B. The distributions on your 1099 are just cash flows - they're not necessarily taxable income. Your actual taxable income is what's calculated and reported on the K-1 based on the partnership's operations. Sometimes you'll get more in distributions than taxable income, sometimes less (the "phantom income" issue others mentioned). Make sure to keep good records of both forms though. Even though you're not double-counting them for tax purposes, having both helps you reconcile everything and can be helpful if you ever get questioned about the reporting.
This is really helpful! I'm dealing with my first PTP this year and was completely lost. One quick follow-up question - when you say "back out" the PTP distributions from the 1099, do you literally enter a negative number somewhere, or is there usually a checkbox or something? I'm using TaxAct and want to make sure I do this right. Also, should I be worried if my K-1 taxable income is way different from what I actually received in cash? My distributions were about $800 but the K-1 shows like $1,200 in taxable income.
The timing confusion you're experiencing is really common! Since you spent the money in 2023 but didn't start generating income until 2024, you'll want to take the startup cost deduction on your 2024 tax return. The IRS considers your business to have "begun operations" when you first started providing services and earning income, not when you incurred the expenses. So you can deduct up to $5,000 of your startup costs directly on your 2024 return, and the remaining $2,200 would need to be amortized over 15 years starting in 2024. Don't amend your 2023 return - that would actually be incorrect since your business wasn't considered "active" yet according to IRS definitions. Make sure to keep all your receipts from 2023 as documentation for these startup expenses, even though you're claiming them in 2024. The key is when your business began operating, not when you paid for the expenses.
This is really helpful clarification! I was in a similar boat with my freelance graphic design business - had all these setup expenses in one year but didn't land my first paying client until the following year. It's counterintuitive that you claim the deduction when you start earning, not when you spend, but it makes sense from the IRS perspective since that's when your business is actually "in operation." Thanks for explaining the $5k immediate deduction vs 15-year amortization split too - I didn't realize there was that threshold!
This is such a great question and the answers here are really solid! I went through the exact same confusion with my consulting business last year. One thing that might help clarify - the IRS Publication 535 has a section specifically on startup costs that breaks down the timing rules pretty clearly once you know what to look for. The key phrase is "begins business operations" which they define as when you start the activities for which your business was organized - so in your case, when you first started doing paid photography work in 2024. Even though you spent the money preparing in 2023, the deduction goes on your 2024 return. Also worth noting - keep excellent records of all those 2023 expenses because if you ever get audited, you'll need to prove both the amount and that they were legitimate startup costs. The IRS can be pretty strict about what qualifies versus what they consider personal expenses or regular business costs.
Grace Thomas
Just a heads up that if you refinanced last year, you might have TWO 1098 forms - one from each lender. Don't forget to add both when calculating your total mortgage interest! I almost missed this and would have underreported by $3,200.
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Hunter Brighton
ā¢This happened to me! I almost missed the second 1098 from my original lender. The extra $1,800 in interest pushed me over the threshold where itemizing made sense instead of the standard deduction.
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Jibriel Kohn
Another thing to watch out for - if you paid any points when you got your mortgage, those should show up in Box 6 of your 1098. Points paid on a purchase mortgage are generally fully deductible in the year you bought the house, which could add a nice chunk to your itemized deductions. Since you bought in August, you might have paid origination points that you can deduct this year. Just make sure you didn't already deduct them if they were rolled into your mortgage amount rather than paid separately at closing.
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