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Don't make the same mistake I did! If you DO end up needing to file the 1041, make sure you use the estate's EIN on the form, NOT your mom's social security number. I mixed them up and it caused a huge headache with notices from the IRS about mismatched taxpayer IDs. Also, the filing deadline for 1041 is different than regular tax returns - it's the 15th day of the 4th month after the end of the estate's tax year.

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Isn't there also something about how you choose the estate's tax year? I remember when my mom passed the lawyer mentioned something about having options for what 12-month period to use.

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You're absolutely right about the tax year choice! When you establish an estate, you can choose any 12-month period ending on the last day of any month as the estate's tax year. So if your mom passed away in February, you could choose a tax year ending February 28th, March 31st, December 31st, etc. This can be helpful for tax planning purposes. The key is that you make this election on the first Form 1041 you file. If you don't file a 1041 at all (because you're under the $600 threshold), then it doesn't matter. But if you do need to file, choosing the right tax year ending date can sometimes help with timing of income and deductions. For @Fiona Sand's situation with just the small bank account, she probably won't need to worry about this since it's unlikely to generate $600 in interest. But it's good information to know just in case!

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Emily Sanjay

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This is really helpful information about choosing the estate's tax year! I'm completely new to all this estate stuff and had no idea there were so many options and decisions to make. It sounds like for most small estates like mine, we probably won't even need to worry about filing the 1041, but it's good to understand how it works just in case. Thanks for breaking it down in simple terms - between this thread and some of the tools people mentioned, I'm feeling much less overwhelmed about handling my mom's estate.

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Anyone know if these carryover losses expire? I've been carrying some forward for a few years now and wondering if there's a time limit before I lose them.

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Leila Haddad

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Capital losses don't expire! You can carry them forward indefinitely until they're used up. I've been carrying forward some dotcom bubble losses for over 20 years lol. Still slowly using them up $3k per year.

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Alicia Stern

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I went through this exact same situation last year with my crypto losses from 2022. The confusion is totally understandable because it does feel like you're claiming the same deduction twice. Here's what I learned after consulting with a tax professional: You should enter the same capital loss carryover amounts on both your federal and state returns. This isn't double-dipping because you're filing two separate tax returns to two different taxing authorities (federal government and state government). California (which I saw you mentioned in the comments) does conform to federal capital loss treatment, so your carryover amounts should be the same on both returns. The key thing to remember is that your federal return calculates your federal tax liability, and your state return calculates your state tax liability - they're independent calculations that both happen to use the same underlying capital loss carryover. TurboTax should handle this correctly once you input the information. The software knows the state-specific rules and will apply them appropriately. Better to use the legitimate deduction you're entitled to than leave money on the table!

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Has anyone had issues with exchanges that don't record the time zone in their transaction exports? Most of my CSV exports just show dates without time zones and I'm not sure if they're using UTC or what.

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Dylan Cooper

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This drove me crazy last year! Most exchanges use UTC in their backend systems but their CSV exports are inconsistent. I ended up having to manually adjust a bunch of transactions that happened around midnight on Dec 31. Some platforms like Coinbase Pro at least note the time zone in their reports, but smaller exchanges are all over the place.

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I had the same problem with Kraken and Binance exports showing timestamps without time zones. What I did was cross-reference the timestamps with my email confirmations from the exchanges, which usually include proper time zone info. Also, if you log into your exchange account, the transaction history in the web interface often shows your local time zone even if the CSV export doesn't. It's tedious but helped me sort out which side of midnight my year-end trades actually fell on.

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Ethan Wilson

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This is such a helpful thread! I've been dealing with the same confusion about time zones for my crypto taxes. One thing I wanted to add - if you're keeping manual records, make sure to note not just the timestamp but also your physical location for any trades made while traveling. I learned this the hard way when I had to reconstruct my 2023 taxes after getting audited. The IRS agent specifically asked about a few trades I made during a business trip to Chicago right around New Year's. Thankfully I had kept travel receipts that proved where I was, but it would have been much easier if I had just noted my location in my trading spreadsheet from the beginning. Also, for anyone using DeFi protocols or DEXs, the same rules apply - it's based on your physical location when you initiate the transaction, not where the blockchain nodes are located. Just wanted to clarify that since I see a lot of confusion about this in other crypto tax forums.

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TommyKapitz

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This is really valuable advice about keeping location records! I never thought about noting my physical location for trades, but it makes total sense especially for people who travel frequently. Quick question - when you got audited, did the IRS specifically look for documentation of your location, or was that something you proactively provided? I'm wondering how detailed I need to be with my record-keeping. Like, do I need to save hotel receipts and flight confirmations for every trip where I might make trades, or is it enough to just note the city/time zone in my trading log? Also, thanks for clarifying about DeFi - I use Uniswap and a few other DEXs and was wondering if those transactions would be treated differently since they're on-chain rather than through traditional exchanges.

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Cedric Chung

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I'm experiencing the exact same frustrating situation! Filed our first joint return on February 12th after getting married in November, and just received my second 60-day letter yesterday. Like everyone else here, I can access all our transcripts and everything appears completely normal - all W-2s, 1099s, and withholdings are showing up correctly. What's particularly annoying is that the second letter uses almost identical language to the first one about "waiting for tax information to be available in our system." If the information is already available (which it clearly is since we can all see it), why does it take them 4+ months to verify what should be a straightforward process? I'm starting to think there's a specific verification queue for newly married couples filing jointly, and they're just massively backlogged. The timing patterns everyone is describing are too consistent to be random - first letter around 3 weeks, second letter around 8-9 weeks later. Has anyone tried contacting their Congressional representative's office? I've heard they sometimes have dedicated liaisons who can expedite IRS issues, especially when taxpayers are experiencing unreasonable delays without clear explanations.

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Dylan Fisher

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Your Congressional representative idea is actually brilliant! I hadn't thought of that approach, but it makes sense since these delays seem to be affecting so many people without any reasonable explanation. The fact that we're all seeing the same pattern - newly married couples, identical letter language, similar timing - suggests this might be a systemic issue that needs higher-level attention. I'm curious if anyone has tried documenting these experiences and submitting them as a group complaint? With so many of us experiencing virtually identical situations, there might be strength in numbers. The IRS clearly has some kind of systematic bottleneck in their marriage verification process, and individual complaints might not carry as much weight as a pattern of similar cases. The whole situation is ridiculous when you think about it - we can all see our complete tax information online, but somehow the IRS needs 4+ months to "wait for information to be available" in their system. It's like they're using a completely different database than what we have access to as taxpayers!

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Kaitlyn Otto

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I'm in exactly the same boat as many of you here! Filed jointly for the first time after getting married in October, submitted our return on February 5th, and just got my second 60-day letter this week. The timing is almost spooky how similar it is to everyone else's experiences. What really caught my attention reading through all these comments is how we're ALL newly married couples filing jointly for the first time, and we're ALL getting the same vague "waiting for tax information" language despite being able to see everything perfectly fine on our transcripts. This can't be a coincidence. I think there's definitely a systematic issue with how the IRS processes first-time joint returns from previously separate filers. It's like their verification system flags the change in filing status and then gets stuck in some kind of bureaucratic loop. The Congressional representative suggestion from @Cedric Chung is really smart - I'm going to try that next week. At this point, we've all been patient enough with their internal processes. When multiple taxpayers are experiencing identical delays with identical explanations (or lack thereof), it starts to look like a systematic failure that needs external pressure to resolve. Has anyone tried reaching out to local tax preparation services to see if they're hearing similar complaints from other clients? It might help us understand just how widespread this issue really is.

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Ava Williams

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Has anyone used multiple crypto tax software programs to compare results? I tried three different ones and got wildly different numbers for the same transactions. Kinda concerning.

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Yeah, I compared CoinTracker, Koinly, and TokenTax last year. Got three different liability amounts ranging by several thousand dollars! The main differences came from how they handled cost basis methods and missing transactions. Some defaulted to FIFO while others used different methods. I ended up going with the one that gave me the most detailed transaction breakdown so I could manually verify the important transactions. The cheapest option actually missed a bunch of my DeFi transactions completely.

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Emma Wilson

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I went through a similar nightmare situation with years of unfiled crypto taxes. One thing I learned the hard way is to tackle this systematically rather than trying to fix everything at once. Start with your most recent tax year first (2023) since that's what you need to file soon. Get that sorted with proper crypto tax software, then work backwards. This approach helps you understand the process before diving into the messier historical data. For the older years, focus on the big transactions first - don't stress about every $5 trade from 2017. The IRS cares more about substantial unreported income than minor discrepancies. If you're missing some transaction data from defunct exchanges, document what you tried to recover and use reasonable estimates based on what you can reconstruct. Also consider consulting with a tax professional who specializes in crypto - the cost might be worth it given the complexity of your situation and the potential penalties involved. They can help you determine which years actually need amended returns and guide you through any voluntary disclosure programs if applicable. The most important thing is that you're taking action now rather than continuing to ignore it. The IRS generally works with taxpayers who are making good faith efforts to get compliant.

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Zane Gray

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This is really solid advice about working backwards from the most recent year. I'm actually in a similar boat - been procrastinating on my crypto taxes for way too long. The idea of focusing on the big transactions first makes a lot of sense rather than getting bogged down in every tiny trade. One question though - when you say "reasonable estimates" for missing data, how detailed do those need to be? I have some transactions from exchanges that went under and I can only partially reconstruct what happened. Should I be conservative and overestimate what I might owe, or try to be as accurate as possible even if some numbers are basically educated guesses? Also curious about your experience with tax professionals - did you find one who actually knew crypto well, or did you end up having to educate them about how it all works?

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