Is investment interest expense deductible if using HELOC funds from primary home for investment?
I've got two properties - my main house and a vacation cottage we also rent out short term. Together the mortgages exceed $950k. We use the vacation place too frequently to call it an investment property for tax purposes. I'm thinking about setting up the following financial structure and want to make sure I understand the tax implications: 1) Taking out a HELOC on my primary residence (around $120k) and putting those funds directly into my brokerage account for investments. My understanding is this interest would be deductible as investment interest expense. 2) I need to make about $75k in improvements to the vacation property (new roof, kitchen remodel, deck repair). 3) I might use a margin loan from my brokerage account (or maybe box spreads which I understand can have lower interest rates) to pay for these vacation home improvements. My question is about the tax treatment here. If I do step 3, would the HELOC interest still be deductible as investment interest? Would the margin loan interest or potential box spread losses be deductible too? Or would the IRS see this as an elaborate scheme to use a HELOC on one property to fund repairs on another property? I'm going to use this approach regardless for cash flow reasons, but want to make sure I'm handling taxes correctly while minimizing my tax burden legally.
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Hunter Brighton
This is a great question about the traceability of funds. The key factor in determining deductibility isn't just where the money ultimately goes, but maintaining proper "tracing" of the funds. Here's how it would work: For your HELOC funds placed directly into a brokerage account for investments, yes - that interest would generally be deductible as investment interest expense (subject to the limitation that it's only deductible to the extent of your net investment income). This is true as long as you can clearly document that the HELOC proceeds went directly to investment purposes. If you then take a margin loan against your investment account for vacation home improvements, that's a separate transaction. The margin loan interest would NOT be deductible if used for personal property improvements since it would be considered personal interest. Similarly, losses on box spreads used to fund personal property improvements wouldn't typically be deductible as investment expenses. The IRS follows what's called "tracing rules" for interest expenses - they look at what the borrowed money was actually used for, not just the source of the funds.
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Grace Thomas
•Thanks for the detailed explanation. So if I understand correctly - the HELOC interest would remain deductible because those funds went straight to investments, but any margin interest from the brokerage account used for vacation property improvements wouldn't be deductible? Does that change at all if the vacation property generates some rental income, even though we use it too much to qualify as a full investment property?
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Hunter Brighton
•The HELOC interest would remain deductible as investment interest expense as long as those funds are actually used for investment purposes, regardless of what you do with other funds. So that part of your plan is solid. For the vacation property that generates some rental income, the tax treatment gets more complex. Since it's a mixed-use property, you'll need to allocate expenses between personal use and rental use based on days. Any margin loan interest used for improvements would only be partially deductible - and only the portion allocated to the rental use. The personal-use portion of the interest would not be deductible. You'd need to track days of personal use versus rental use carefully.
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Dylan Baskin
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Lauren Wood
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Ellie Lopez
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Dylan Baskin
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Paige Cantoni
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Kylo Ren
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Nina Fitzgerald
One thing no one has mentioned yet - be careful with box spreads! While they can be a way to get synthetic loans at decent rates, they come with significant risks if not structured correctly. I used them as a funding source similar to what you're describing and had a tax nightmare when unwinding them. Make sure you understand the tax treatment of box spreads thoroughly. Depending on how they're structured and closed, you might end up with short-term capital gains rather than interest expense. This completely changes the deductibility situation. In my case, I ended up with a large tax bill because the gains weren't offset by my investment interest deductions the way I had planned.
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Grace Thomas
•That's a really good point I hadn't considered. Did you find any specific resources that helped you understand the tax treatment of box spreads? I'm familiar with the investment mechanics but not the detailed tax implications.
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Nina Fitzgerald
•The most helpful resource I found was actually the IRS Publication 550 on Investment Income and Expenses. There's a section on straddles and options that applies to box spreads. I also found that the Bogleheads forum has some detailed threads on the tax treatment. The key thing I learned is that if you're using box spreads as a financing strategy, you need to be very careful about how you close the position. Depending on how it's unwound, you might recognize the entire discount as a capital gain in a single year rather than spreading it out as implied interest. This can create a tax timing nightmare. I strongly recommend consulting with a tax professional who has specific experience with box spreads before implementing this strategy.
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Jason Brewer
Has anyone considered that the whole strategy might fall under the step transaction doctrine? The IRS might view steps 1-3 as a single transaction designed to deduct interest on improvements to your vacation home, which would otherwise not be deductible. I talked to my tax guy about something similar and he warned me that when you do a series of related transactions in quick succession, the IRS can sometimes collapse them and look at the end result rather than treating each step as independent.
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Kiara Fisherman
•This is a really important point! The step transaction doctrine is definitely something to consider. From my understanding, having a legitimate business purpose for each step helps defend against this. Like if there's a significant time gap between the HELOC and the margin loan, and if the investments are diverse (not just sitting as cash awaiting the next transaction), that might help.
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Jade Santiago
This is a complex situation that involves several important tax concepts. Based on what you've described, here are the key considerations: **HELOC Interest Deductibility**: If you take HELOC funds and put them directly into your brokerage account for investments, that interest should generally be deductible as investment interest expense (subject to the net investment income limitation). The key is maintaining clear documentation of the fund flow. **Margin Loan for Property Improvements**: Interest on margin loans used for vacation home improvements would likely not be fully deductible. Since your vacation property has mixed use (personal and rental), you'd need to allocate the interest expense. Only the portion attributable to rental use would be deductible, and the personal use portion would be non-deductible personal interest. **Documentation is Critical**: Keep meticulous records showing exactly where each dollar goes. The IRS follows "tracing rules" - they care about what the borrowed money is actually used for, not just the source. **Potential Red Flags**: Be aware that the IRS could view this as a step transaction if the timing and structure suggest the real purpose is to circumvent the rules against deducting personal interest. Having legitimate business reasons for each step and maintaining some time separation between transactions could help. I'd strongly recommend consulting with a tax professional who can review your specific situation and help ensure proper documentation to support your deductions.
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Ethan Davis
I've been through a similar situation with mixed-use property financing and want to emphasize how important the timing and documentation will be for your strategy. One thing that helped me was creating a clear timeline showing legitimate business purposes for each transaction. For example, if you're planning the $75k in improvements anyway due to genuine property needs (like the roof repair), documenting that necessity before taking any loans can help show it's not just a tax avoidance scheme. Also consider the cash flow timing - if you take the HELOC and invest those funds, then later need the margin loan for property improvements, having some time gap between these transactions (weeks or months rather than days) can help demonstrate they're separate business decisions rather than one coordinated plan. The mixed-use nature of your vacation property actually works in your favor here since you'll have rental income to offset against the deductible portion of any improvement-related interest. Just make sure you're tracking personal vs. rental use days meticulously since that ratio will determine how much of any improvement costs (and related interest) can be deducted. One final thought - given the dollar amounts involved ($120k HELOC, $75k improvements), this might be worth getting a written opinion from a tax professional before implementation. The cost of that consultation could save you significant headaches if the IRS ever questions your approach.
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