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Quick question - has anyone filed using TurboTax or similar software when amending a return to switch from ITIN to SSN? Do these programs handle this situation well?
I used H&R Block software for this exact situation last year. The software itself didn't have specific guidance for ITIN-to-SSN amendments, but it did let me file the 1040-X. I had to manually write in the explanation about the ITIN rejection and new SSN in Part III. The tricky part was that the software didn't prompt me to include the supporting documents (SSN card copy, rejection notice, etc.), so I had to remember to print and mail those separately. Honestly, for something this specific, I'd consider paying a tax pro who specializes in international student taxes - it's worth the peace of mind.
I went through this exact same situation two years ago! Here's what worked for me: 1. **Don't reapply for the ITIN** - since you have an SSN now, that takes priority and you should use it going forward. 2. **File Form 1040-X (amended return)** with your SSN in the identification section. In Part III (explanation), write something like "Originally filed with pending ITIN application (rejected per CP567 notice dated [date]). Now amending to include newly obtained SSN." 3. **Include these documents with your 1040-X:** - Copy of your SSN card - Copy of the CP567 rejection notice - Copy of your original return (if you have it) - Brief cover letter explaining the situation 4. **No late filing penalties** - you filed on time originally, so you're protected there. The ITIN rejection doesn't change that. One thing I learned the hard way: mail everything certified mail with return receipt. The IRS processes amended returns slower than regular returns (can take 16+ weeks), and having proof of delivery is crucial. Also, if you need to contact the IRS about this, be prepared for long wait times. Having your case number from the CP567 notice ready will help speed things up when you do get through. Good luck! The process seems overwhelming but it's actually pretty straightforward once you know the steps.
This is incredibly helpful! I'm actually in a very similar situation right now - got my ITIN rejected and just received my SSN last week. Quick question about the cover letter you mentioned - did you keep it brief or include detailed explanations about your visa status and timeline? I'm worried about providing too much information versus not enough context for the IRS processor. Also, did you face any issues with state taxes during this process? I filed state returns in two different states last year and I'm not sure if I need to amend those as well or if the SSN change only affects federal returns.
One thing nobody mentioned yet is that you should be charging MORE as a 1099 contractor to offset the additional tax burden. General rule of thumb is to add at least 25-30% to whatever hourly rate you'd accept as a W-2 employee. For example, if you'd work for $25/hr as a W-2, you should be charging at least $31-33/hr as a 1099 to cover the additional taxes. Plus even more to cover benefits you're missing out on like health insurance, paid time off, etc.
That's a good point I hadn't considered. Is it too late to negotiate my rate if I've already agreed to a certain amount? Has anyone successfully gone back to renegotiate after realizing the tax implications?
It's never too late to renegotiate, especially if you can frame it in terms of the value you provide. I wouldn't directly say "I didn't realize taxes would be so high" as that might seem unprofessional. Instead, approach it as "Based on the work I've been doing and the value I'm providing, I'd like to discuss adjusting my rate to $X." The best time to have this conversation is after you've proven your worth but before starting a new project phase. Alternatively, you could ask for additional responsibilities to justify the higher rate. Most clients expect contractors to increase their rates periodically, especially if you're doing good work. Just be professional and confident when you ask - the worst they can say is no.
Has anyone considered forming an S-Corporation instead of just working as a sole proprietor on 1099? That's what my accountant recommended after my first year of freelancing. You can pay yourself a "reasonable salary" which is subject to self-employment tax, but then take the rest as distributions which aren't subject to SE tax. Saved me about $6500 in taxes last year.
I've heard about the S-Corp approach but isn't there a lot of extra paperwork and fees involved? Like you have to run payroll, file separate tax returns, pay state fees, etc. Is it really worth it for someone making under $100k?
You're right about the extra paperwork and costs. Generally, the S-Corp election becomes worth it when you're making around $60k+ in net profit, but it varies by state. The break-even point depends on your state's corporate fees, payroll processing costs, and additional accounting expenses. The main costs include: quarterly payroll taxes, annual corporate tax return (usually $500-1500 if you hire someone), state annual fees (varies widely by state), and potentially payroll software. But if you're saving $6500 like @d69e71ffdcaf mentioned, those costs are easily justified. One tip: you don't have to decide immediately. You can make the S-Corp election retroactively for the current tax year up until March 15th of the following year. So you could see how much you make this year and then decide if it makes sense.
Has anyone used Uber's actual Uber for Business commuter program rather than just regular UberXL? My company mentioned it as an option but I'm not sure if it actually qualifies for the pre-tax benefit under IRS rules.
I've used it! Uber for Business commuter program DOES qualify because it's specifically designed to meet the IRS requirements. Companies can set up dedicated commuter routes and schedules that satisfy the 80% mileage and half-capacity requirements. It's different from just taking regular UberXL rides. With the business commuter program, your employer essentially creates virtual "vanpools" with consistent routes, schedules, and passenger groupings. Much more efficient than individual rides and properly structured to qualify for pre-tax benefits.
This is a great question that highlights how complex the IRS transportation benefit rules can be! I went through a similar situation last year and learned that the key issue isn't just meeting the technical requirements (like the 6+ seat capacity) but how the IRS interprets the *intent* of these benefits. The qualified transportation benefit was designed for traditional commuter services - things like company shuttles, established vanpools, and public transit. Even though UberXL technically meets some criteria, the IRS views it as individual transportation rather than a "commuter service." Here's what I'd recommend: Before your job starts, ask HR specifically about their transportation benefit partnerships. Many employers have arrangements with legitimate vanpool services or commuter programs that DO qualify. Some even have partnerships with services like Via or other shared-ride companies that operate more like traditional transit. For those 4-5 days per month when you need to reach areas without good public transit, you might also consider if any of your coworkers make similar trips - your employer might be able to set up an actual qualifying vanpool arrangement if there's enough demand. The bottom line: stick with clearly qualifying benefits rather than trying to stretch the rules with UberXL, even though the wording seems like it might work on paper.
This is really helpful advice! I'm curious about something you mentioned - when you say some employers have partnerships with services like Via that operate "more like traditional transit," what specifically makes those different from UberXL in the IRS's eyes? Is it just that they have fixed routes, or are there other factors that make them qualify when regular rideshare doesn't? Also, for the vanpool arrangement with coworkers - would that need to be formally set up through the employer, or could employees organize it themselves and still have it qualify for the pre-tax benefits?
Is anyone using tax software to figure this out? I tried entering my kid's braces expenses in TurboTax but it's not clear if I'm doing it right. It keeps asking me if the expenses were for "dental services" or "medical services" and I don't know which category braces fall under.
Select "dental services" for braces in TurboTax. Orthodontic work falls under dental services rather than general medical services. The software should then prompt you for the total amount paid and any insurance reimbursements. Make sure you're itemizing deductions rather than taking the standard deduction, or else the medical expenses won't help you tax-wise.
Just wanted to share my experience as someone who went through this exact situation! My orthodontist actually gave me a really helpful tip - if you're doing a payment plan, you can strategically time your payments to maximize your deduction in a high-income year. For example, if you know you're going to have a bonus or higher income one year, you might want to prepay more of the orthodontic treatment in that year since the 7.5% AGI threshold will be harder to reach. Conversely, if you have a lower income year (maybe due to job loss or reduced hours), that might be the perfect time to bunch your medical expenses since you'll hit the threshold more easily. Also, don't forget about related expenses! You can deduct mileage to and from orthodontic appointments (currently 22 cents per mile for medical purposes), and if you have to travel overnight for specialized treatment, even lodging can be deductible. These little things can really add up over the course of treatment. One last tip - if your employer offers an FSA or HSA, definitely use it for future orthodontic work since it's pre-tax money. You can't deduct FSA/HSA expenses on your taxes, but you're still getting the tax benefit upfront.
This is such great advice about strategic timing! I never thought about bunching payments in a high-income year. My husband is expecting a promotion next year which would bump us into a higher tax bracket, so maybe we should consider prepaying more of our daughter's remaining treatment then. Quick question though - do you happen to know if there's a limit to how much you can prepay? Like, could I theoretically pay for the entire remaining 18 months of treatment upfront, or does the orthodontist/IRS have restrictions on that?
Hugh Intensity
I messed this up last year and ended up paying way more in taxes than I needed to. I didn't realize that having money in a SEP IRA from a side business would affect my backdoor Roth conversion from my regular traditional IRA. The pro-rata rule looks at ALL your traditional IRA assets, not just the one you're converting from. So instead of just paying taxes on the deducted portion of the IRA I was converting, I had to pay taxes on a much larger percentage because of my SEP IRA balance.
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Effie Alexander
β’That's rough! Do you think it would have been better to roll your SEP IRA into a 401k first, then do the backdoor Roth? I've heard that can help avoid the pro-rata issue.
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Freya Larsen
β’Yes, rolling your SEP IRA into a 401(k) first would have completely avoided the pro-rata issue! Since 401(k)s aren't included in the pro-rata calculation, you could have then done a clean backdoor Roth conversion with just your non-deductible traditional IRA contributions. This is actually a common strategy called "reverse rollover" - moving your pre-tax IRA money into an employer plan to clear the way for future backdoor Roths. Not all 401(k) plans accept rollovers from IRAs though, so you'd need to check with your plan administrator first. For anyone reading this who has significant pre-tax IRA balances and wants to do backdoor Roths going forward, definitely look into this option before doing your conversions!
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Ravi Kapoor
This is such a helpful thread! I'm in a similar situation and had no idea about the pro-rata rule complexities. One question I haven't seen addressed yet: when you say the calculation is based on December 31st balances, does that mean if I do my conversion in January, I should use the previous year's December 31st values? Or do I need to wait until the end of the conversion year to know the exact taxable amount? Also, for those mentioning Form 8606 - is this something I need to file even if I didn't do any conversions in a particular year but made non-deductible contributions? I think I may have missed filing this in past years and I'm worried about potential penalties.
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Amina Toure
β’Great questions! For the December 31st balance rule, it's based on the year you actually do the conversion. So if you convert in January 2025, you'd use your December 31, 2024 balances for the pro-rata calculation. The timing within the year doesn't matter - whether you convert in January or December, you use that year's ending balances. And yes, you absolutely need to file Form 8606 for any year you make non-deductible contributions, even if you don't convert! This form tracks your "basis" (the after-tax money you've contributed) which is crucial for future conversions. Missing these forms can cause major headaches because the IRS won't know about your non-deductible contributions when you eventually convert. If you missed filing Form 8606 in past years, you should file amended returns to include them. There might be penalties, but it's better to fix it now than deal with bigger problems later when the IRS assumes all your conversions are fully taxable.
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