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Omar Fawaz

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You might want to check if you qualified for any partial Roth contribution during those years instead of assuming you couldn't contribute anything. The income limits have a phaseout range where you can make reduced contributions. For 2017, the phaseout for single filers was between $118,000-$133,000. Unless you were completely above the upper threshold, you might have been eligible to contribute something.

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Omg thank you for pointing this out! I just checked my 2017 tax return and my MAGI was around $129,000 which means I was in the phaseout range. So I would have been eligible for a partial contribution. Does that change how I handle this situation? Do I only need to remove part of each year's contribution?

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Yes, this changes everything for those years! If you were in the phaseout range, you need to calculate your maximum allowable contribution for each year based on your specific MAGI. The formula is a bit complex, but basically you take the maximum contribution limit minus a reduction based on how far into the phaseout range you were. For 2017 with a $129,000 MAGI, you'd calculate: $5,500 - (($129,000 - $118,000) / ($133,000 - $118,000)) Ɨ $5,500. That works out to about $1,433 you were allowed to contribute. So you'd only need to remove the excess amount above that ($4,067) rather than the full $5,500. You'll need to do this calculation for each year you were in the phaseout range. This could save you significant penalties and taxes on the removal of contributions that were actually legitimate!

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Luca Bianchi

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This is a really helpful thread! I'm dealing with a similar situation but from 2020-2022. One thing I learned from my tax preparer is that you should also check if your employer offers a 401(k) - if you have workplace retirement coverage, it can affect your ability to deduct Traditional IRA contributions, which impacts the backdoor Roth strategy that people mentioned. Also, make sure to keep detailed records of everything when you're going through the correction process. The IRS may ask for documentation years later, and having your Form 5329s, withdrawal confirmations from Vanguard, and calculation worksheets all organized will save you major headaches if they ever audit this. One last tip - if you end up owing multiple years of the 6% excise tax, you can sometimes set up a payment plan with the IRS rather than paying it all at once. Just call them (or use that Claimyr service others mentioned) to discuss options.

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Isaac Wright

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@Sean Doyle The 6% excise tax definitely qualifies for IRS payment plans! I had to set one up for my situation covering 2020-2022. You can apply online through the IRS website or over the phone. The excise tax is treated just like any other tax debt for payment plan purposes. One thing to keep in mind though - interest and penalties continue to accrue on unpaid balances even while you re'on a payment plan, so it s'still better to pay it off as quickly as you can manage. But it s'definitely better than trying to come up with thousands of dollars all at once, especially when you re'already dealing with the stress of correcting multiple years of mistakes. Also wanted to add that when I called the IRS about my payment plan, they were actually pretty helpful in explaining the whole process. The agent walked me through exactly how the excise tax worked and confirmed my calculations were correct before I submitted everything. Sometimes the IRS gets a bad rap, but the individual agents I ve'dealt with have generally been pretty reasonable to work with.

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Leo McDonald

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The 6% excise tax is treated like any other tax debt by the IRS, so yes, you can definitely set up a payment plan for it. I had to do this when I owed excise tax for three years - it was going to be around $900 total and I couldn't pay it all at once. You can apply for an installment agreement online through the IRS website or by calling them. They're usually pretty reasonable about it, especially if you're being proactive about fixing the underlying issue. Just make sure you're current on all your other tax filings first, as they won't approve payment plans if you have unfiled returns. The key is to get the correction process started as soon as possible because the 6% penalty keeps accumulating each year the excess contributions remain in the account. Even if you're on a payment plan for past penalties, you want to stop the clock from running on new ones!

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Diego Vargas

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Just a heads up that the person BUYING the property in this scenario also needs to consider tax implications. When my mom sold me her house below market value, I didn't have to pay gift tax (that was on her), but when I eventually sold the property years later, I had to use HER original basis for calculating capital gains, not the discounted price I paid. This is called "basis carryover" for related party transactions and it really surprised me at tax time.

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Wait really? So if the original poster buys a property for 200k, sells to family for 300k when it's worth 600k, and then the family member later sells for 700k, the family member's capital gain isn't 400k (700k-300k) but 500k (700k-200k)? That seems unfair somehow.

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That's not quite right. The basis carryover rules apply for GIFTED property, not for property that's purchased at a discount. If you actually buy the property (even at a discount), your basis is what you paid plus the gift portion's carryover basis. It gets complicated, but it's not as bad as using the original owner's complete basis.

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NebulaKnight

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One important thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the timing aspect of getting your appraisal. The IRS expects the fair market value to be determined as close to the transaction date as possible. If you're using an appraisal that's several months old, they might question its validity, especially in a volatile real estate market. Also, make sure your appraiser knows this is for a family transaction that will likely involve gift tax reporting. Some appraisers will note this in their report and provide additional documentation about their methodology, which can be helpful if the IRS ever questions the valuation. I learned this the hard way when my first appraisal didn't have enough detail and I had to get a second one specifically for tax purposes. The key is having rock-solid documentation for every aspect of this transaction - the appraisal, the reasons for the below-market sale, and proper filing of all required forms. It's definitely worth consulting with a tax professional who has experience with family property transfers before you proceed.

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AstroAce

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Has anyone had success calling STPG directly to get an updated timeline? Last year I was in this exact situation and tried calling but couldn't get through to anyone helpful. This year I'm considering asking my tax preparer to follow up on my behalf instead - do they have a special line or contact method that's more effective than what's available to us directly?

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Diego Rojas

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Does anyone know if STPG has a specific tracking number format for their cashier's checks? My preparer gave me what looks like a reference number, but USPS website doesn't recognize it. Is there a different tracking system I should be using?

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Are we sure the delay is with STPG and not with the IRS? My understanding is STPG can't issue anything until they actually receive the funds from IRS. Has anyone confirmed which part of the process is actually causing these delays?

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Miguel Silva

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I've been through this process multiple times and can share some insights. STPG cashier's checks typically arrive within 5-7 business days of when they show "funds received" on their portal, but I've noticed the timing can vary significantly based on your location and current USPS delivery speeds. Regarding your question about higher income affecting timelines - in my experience, it's not the income amount itself but rather any changes in your tax situation that might trigger additional IRS review before funds are even released to STPG. The cashier's check option does add extra time compared to direct deposit, but it's usually more predictable than people think. One tip: if your STPG portal shows they've received your funds but it's been more than 7 business days without receiving your check, definitely have your tax preparer contact them directly. They have better access to STPG customer service and can often get real-time updates on your check's status or request a replacement if it's been lost in transit.

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Can someone explain what tax bracket these bonuses fall under? I got a $500 Amazon gift card for opening a premium checking account. Will this push me into a higher tax bracket? I'm already close to the next bracket with my regular income.

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The bank bonus will be taxed as interest income at your ordinary income tax rate. It gets added to your total income for the year, so technically it could push you into a higher bracket if you're right at the threshold. But remember that tax brackets in the US are marginal - only the portion of income that falls into a higher bracket gets taxed at the higher rate, not all of your income. So even if the $500 pushes you into the next bracket, only that amount (or portion of it) would be taxed at the higher rate, not your entire income.

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Chloe Davis

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Something to keep in mind is that you might also want to factor in the tax cost when evaluating these bank bonuses. For example, if you're in the 22% tax bracket and get a $300 Amazon gift card, you'll owe about $66 in taxes on it. So the "real" value of the bonus to you is closer to $234. I've started keeping a spreadsheet tracking all my bank bonuses throughout the year so I can set aside money for the tax bill. It's easy to forget about these when tax time comes around, especially if you opened multiple accounts. Just received a $400 bonus from Wells Fargo last month and immediately moved $88 to my tax savings account (assuming 22% bracket). Also worth noting - some banks are better about sending the 1099-INT forms than others. Credit unions in particular seem to be inconsistent with reporting, but you're still legally required to report the income regardless.

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I was in the 0805 cycle last year and had almost given up when my refund suddenly appeared. What helped me was checking my Account Transcript rather than just the Return Transcript - it showed a different status that explained the delay. My sister had the same issue this year and her 0805 refund just hit her account yesterday after a 5-week wait.

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Dylan Fisher

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Did your Account Transcript show any specific dates for when the review started? Mine has had March 25, 2024 as a processing date for over two weeks now with no updates.

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I'm also stuck in the 0805 cycle and it's been 6 weeks since I filed! Filed on January 28th, got the 0805 code by February 14th, but still no direct deposit date. My transcript shows a "150 Transcript" with cycle code 20240805 but no 846 refund issued code yet. I've been checking WMR daily and it just says "still being processed." Starting to wonder if there's a systematic issue with certain 0805 returns this year. Has anyone tried calling the practitioner priority line or is that only for tax professionals?

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