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So I've been doing some Manufactured Spend (MS) this past year using Square exclusively and just got hit with a 1099-K from them. According to this form, I supposedly processed about $5,300 in "sales" - but this was literally just me cycling through my own Visa gift cards and personal credit cards. This was 100% MS activity. Here's my problem - I definitely don't want this $5,300 showing up as actual income on my taxes! I'm thinking I can include this on my return but then just show that my "business expenses" were equal to or greater than my "business income." If I get audited, I can easily prove all these gift cards and credit cards were mine by showing my credit card statements with the gift card purchases and even the physical cards themselves. Would this approach be sufficient to avoid getting taxed on money that was just being moved around between my own accounts? Has anyone dealt with a similar situation with Square and MS activities? Not trying to evade taxes, just don't want to pay extra on something that wasn't actually income.
Hey tax folks, I'm in a bit of a situation here. Our small import business missed the deadline for filing Form 5472 along with our corporate 1120 return this year. We've never been late with these forms before - perfect record until now. We had some major supplier issues in Asia that threw everything into chaos, and honestly, tax filing completely slipped through the cracks. Just got the notice from the IRS about potential penalties, and I'm freaking out a bit. From what I'm reading online, there might be something called "first time penalty abatement" that could help us? Since this is literally our first time ever being late with the 5472s (and the 1120), I'm wondering if anyone has successfully used this approach? The business is a US corporation that's 60% owned by a foreign entity, so we know the 5472 requirement is serious. Has anyone here managed to get those penalties waived through first time abatement when both the 5472 and 1120 were filed late? Any insights would be super helpful!
Slightly different experience to share - we got hit with the 5472 penalty last year (first time late) and thought it would be automatically abated under FTA. We were WRONG. Our letter simply requesting FTA was denied because we didn't provide enough "reasonable cause" documentation. Had to go back and submit a much more detailed explanation with actual evidence of the circumstances (emails showing the confusion with our foreign parent company, timeline of events, etc). Second request was approved. Don't assume the IRS will be lenient just because it's your first offense with 5472s. The $25K penalty is considered different from regular late filing penalties. Document EVERYTHING.
I've been following this thread closely since I'm dealing with a similar situation with our LLC that's foreign-owned. Just wanted to add some practical timing advice based on what happened to us. We received our penalty notice for late 5472 in January and immediately submitted our abatement request. The IRS initially denied it because we only requested "first time abatement" without providing enough detail about reasonable cause. After reading some of the experiences shared here, we resubmitted with a much more comprehensive letter that included: - Timeline of events leading to the late filing - Email correspondence showing the confusion with our foreign parent company - Documentation of our perfect compliance history (printed directly from IRS transcripts) - Specific steps we've implemented to prevent future issues The second request was approved in about 6 weeks. The key lesson for me was that 5472 penalties really do require more than just saying "this is our first time being late." The IRS wants to see that you understand the importance of international reporting and that the delay was truly due to circumstances beyond your control, not just poor planning. Also, for anyone still waiting on responses - consider calling the practitioner priority line if you have a POA on file. We were able to get status updates that way when our letter seemed to disappear into the system.
Great questions! For the IRS transcripts, you can request them directly without needing a tax professional. Go to the IRS website and use their "Get Transcript" tool - you can request Account Transcripts that show your filing and payment history for the past several years. This gives you official documentation of your compliance record that the IRS can easily verify. Regarding the practitioner priority line - you're right that it's technically for tax professionals, but if you have a Power of Attorney (Form 2848) on file with a CPA or tax attorney, they can call that line for you. The regular taxpayer line works too, it just tends to have longer wait times. One thing I forgot to mention in my original post - make sure to keep copies of everything you send to the IRS and send your abatement request via certified mail. We almost had to resubmit our second request because they initially claimed they never received it, but the certified mail receipt saved us from starting over.
Great questions! For the IRS transcripts, you can request them directly without needing a tax professional. You can get them online through the IRS website (irs.gov) if you can verify your identity, or by calling the automated transcript line at 1-800-908-9946. The account transcripts show your filing and payment history, which is perfect documentation for proving your clean compliance record. Regarding the practitioner priority line - you're right that it's technically for tax professionals, but if you have a Power of Attorney (Form 2848) on file with a CPA or attorney, they can call on your behalf. Some business owners have also had success calling the regular business tax line and explaining they're following up on a penalty abatement request - sometimes they'll transfer you to someone who can provide updates. One tip I forgot to mention: when documenting your timeline, be very specific about dates and include any third-party issues that contributed to the delay. The IRS seems to be more sympathetic when they can see that external factors (like your supplier issues in Asia) created a domino effect that led to the late filing.
I'm hitting a roadblock with our taxes this year. My wife does consulting work and got a 1099-NEC from a company in Montreal, Quebec. The payment was around $2,700, nothing huge, but I'm stuck on how to properly report it. We're using CashApp for our tax filing this year, and when I try to enter this 1099-NEC, the system won't accept it because the address is in Canada, not the US. Has anyone dealt with this before? Do I need to report this differently since it's from a foreign company? I'm worried about missing something important and messing up our filing. Any advice on the correct way to include this income would be super helpful!
Don't forget to check if Canada withheld any taxes from your wife's payment! If they did, you might be eligible for a foreign tax credit on Form 1116. This is especially important for larger amounts, but even for $2,700 it could make a difference. Also, since this is consulting work, make sure your wife keeps good records of any business expenses related to this income - home office, supplies, software subscriptions, etc. Those are all deductible on Schedule C against this income.
One thing that might help with the CashApp address validation issue - try entering the Canadian postal code in the ZIP code field but replace spaces with dashes. So if the postal code is "H3B 2Y7", enter it as "H3B-2Y7". Some tax software will accept this format even when they reject the standard Canadian postal code format. If that doesn't work, you can also try entering "00000" as the ZIP code, which is what many tax preparers use as a workaround for foreign addresses. The key is that you're still reporting all the income correctly on Schedule C - the address formatting is just a software limitation, not a tax compliance issue. Also make sure you're treating this as business income on Schedule C rather than miscellaneous income, since it's consulting work. This way your wife can deduct any related business expenses and the income will be subject to self-employment tax as required.
Hey everyone, I just landed my first job at the local movie theater (so excited but also nervous!). I'm 17 and when they gave me all the paperwork to fill out, I got to the W-4 form and got confused. Someone at school mentioned that teenagers don't have to have taxes taken out of their paychecks? Is that true? Am I exempt from tax withholding on my W-4 since I'm under 18? I really don't want to mess this up and either owe a bunch of money later or have too much taken from my checks if I don't need to. Any help would be super appreciated!!
Great question Connor! I went through the same confusion when I started my first job at 16. Based on what others have shared here, it sounds like you're likely in a good position to claim exempt since your projected earnings ($7,800-$10,400) are well below the $13,850 threshold for dependents. Just wanted to add a few practical tips from my experience: 1. Keep track of your actual hours and earnings as you go - if you end up working more than expected (like picking up extra shifts during busy movie seasons), you might need to update your W-4 2. Even though you'll likely be exempt from federal income tax withholding, you'll still see Social Security and Medicare taxes come out - that's normal and required 3. Save some money anyway! Even if you don't owe federal taxes, it's good to start building that habit Also, don't stress too much about "messing up" - the W-4 can be changed anytime if your situation changes. Your HR department at the theater should be able to help you submit a new one if needed. Good luck with your new job!
Hey Connor! Congrats on your first job - that's so exciting! ๐ฌ I see you've gotten some fantastic advice here already, but I wanted to share something that might help give you extra confidence about your W-4 decision. When I was helping my nephew with his first job situation (similar to yours - 17, part-time, being claimed as dependent), we used the IRS Interactive Tax Assistant tool on their website. It's free and walks you through questions about your specific situation to help determine if you qualify for exempt status. What I love about it is that it gives you the official IRS guidance based on your exact circumstances, so you don't have to worry about whether you're interpreting the rules correctly. Just go to irs.gov and search for "Interactive Tax Assistant" - there's a whole section for "Do I Need to File a Tax Return" that covers withholding exemptions. Based on everything you've shared (17, dependent, expecting to earn $7,800-$10,400 annually), it really does sound like you'd qualify for exempt status. But using the IRS tool can give you that extra peace of mind that you're making the right choice. Also, don't stress too much about this decision - like others have said, you can always change your W-4 later if your situation changes. The fact that you're being thoughtful about this shows you're starting your working life on the right foot! Best of luck with the new job! Movie theaters are such fun places to work, especially during the big summer releases.
I'm freaking out a bit and need some help. The company I've been with for years was recently acquired, and they sent me a bonus for helping with the transition. Instead of it coming through on my usual paycheck, they sent me a 1099-NEC for around $8,750. Now I'm trying to file my taxes using Turbo Tax, and it's telling me I need to file this with a Schedule C as business income. This doesn't seem right to me? I was just an employee getting a one-time bonus, not running my own business. Also, I thought bonuses were taxed at a lower rate than regular income, but Turbo Tax is treating this like I'm self-employed or something. Do I really need to claim this as a sole proprietor? I don't want to mess this up and end up with an audit down the road. The whole acquisition has been stressful enough!
Can you share roughly how much the bonus was? If it's a small amount, it might not be worth fighting over. But if we're talking thousands of dollars, the self-employment tax difference is significant enough that you might want to consider getting professional advice before filing.
It's $8,750. So yeah, not a small amount. The self-employment tax would be around $1,300 extra from what I calculated, which feels really unfair since this was literally just a bonus for being a good employee during the transition, not me running a business or doing freelance work.
At $8,750, you're looking at approximately $1,340 in self-employment tax you wouldn't have paid if it had been properly included on a W-2. That's definitely worth addressing. Since the company won't correct the form, you have two main options: (1) File it on Schedule C as they reported it, but maximize any legitimate business deductions to reduce the taxable amount, or (2) Report it as "other income" which avoids self-employment tax but could trigger a mismatch notice from the IRS since it doesn't match how the company reported it. Option 1 is safest but most expensive, while option 2 saves money but carries some audit risk.
I'm a tax preparer and see this situation frequently during acquisition season. The harsh reality is that once your company issued the 1099-NEC, you're generally stuck with reporting it on Schedule C, even though it feels unfair. However, don't despair completely! Since you'll be filing as a sole proprietor for this income, you can deduct ANY legitimate expenses related to earning that bonus. This includes: - Percentage of home office space if you worked from home during the transition - Computer equipment, software, office supplies purchased for the work - Mileage for any business-related travel during the acquisition process - Professional development or training related to the transition - Even meals during working sessions (50% deductible) The key is documentation. Keep receipts and notes about how each expense relates to the work that earned you this bonus. I've seen clients reduce their taxable 1099-NEC income by 20-40% with proper deductions, which significantly offsets that self-employment tax hit. Also, consider making quarterly estimated tax payments for 2025 if you expect similar situations - it's better than owing a large amount next year.
Anastasia Smirnova
Has anyone actually been audited because of this type of MS activity with Square? I'm in the same boat with about $7k reported on a 1099-K but it was all just cycling my own funds. Wondering what the actual risk level is here.
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Sean O'Brien
I had a correspondence audit (by mail) two years ago for exactly this situation. I had to send in my documentation showing the money trail from my credit cards to gift cards to Square and back to my bank account. They accepted my explanation and documentation with no additional taxes owed. Just make sure you keep detailed records!
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Paolo Marino
I went through this exact same situation last year with about $4,800 in MS activity through Square. The key is proper documentation and transparency on your return. Here's what I did that worked perfectly: 1. Filed Schedule C reporting the full $5,300 as gross receipts 2. Listed $5,300 in "Cost of Goods Sold" with a clear description: "Personal funds processed - manufactured spend activity" 3. Kept meticulous records showing the complete money flow: credit card statements for gift card purchases, the physical gift cards, Square transaction records, and bank deposits The result was zero net profit, so no additional taxes owed. I also prepared a one-page summary document explaining the circular nature of these transactions in case of questions. One important tip: don't try to hide or ignore the 1099-K. The IRS already has it, so you need to account for it. But when properly documented as your own funds circulating, there's no tax liability. Just make sure you can prove every dollar was your own money going in a circle. Been doing this approach for two years now with no issues. The transparency actually protects you more than trying to avoid reporting it.
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