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Omg i had this exact question last year! my daughter works in my pet grooming business and i wanted to help with her community college. my accountant told me to just put her on regular payroll and pay her fairly for the ACTUAL work she does. he said if i tried to deduct tuition directly id be asking for an audit. i now pay her $22/hour (what i pay my other grooming assistant) for about 15 hrs/week. she gets a regular paycheck with taxes taken out and everything. then what she does with her money is her business. yeah i still help her with tuition but thats just me being a mom lol.
Just wanted to chime in as someone who went through this exact situation with my son last year. The bottom line is that the IRS treats family employment arrangements with extra scrutiny, so you really need to do everything by the book. Here's what I learned: Pay your daughter actual wages through regular payroll (W-2, tax withholdings, the whole nine yards) for legitimate work performed. Document everything - hours worked, job duties, market rate justification for her pay. The $45k for 1000 hours ($45/hour) might be high depending on what kind of work she's actually doing. Research what similar positions pay in your area. Once she's getting regular paychecks, what she does with that money is her business. You can still help with tuition separately as a parent, but that's a personal expense, not a business deduction. Don't try to get creative by paying tuition directly as a "business expense" - that's a red flag for the IRS and could trigger an audit. Keep your business expenses and personal family support completely separate. It's cleaner, safer, and will save you headaches down the road.
This is really helpful advice! I'm in a similar situation with my daughter who helps with my consulting business. One question though - when you say "research what similar positions pay in your area," where did you actually find reliable data for that? I'm having trouble finding good benchmarks for part-time admin/bookkeeping work to make sure I'm not over or underpaying her.
You're absolutely right that this is a legitimate business arrangement! I've been operating under a similar booth rental setup for my grooming business for over 3 years now, and it's completely legal when done properly. The key factors you mentioned - setting your own schedule, handling your own client payments, providing your own supplies, and carrying your own insurance - are exactly what the IRS looks for to establish true independent contractor status. The fact that you file Schedule C is also correct. One thing I'd add is to make sure your rental agreement explicitly states that you're renting space only, not providing services to the salon. This helps maintain the clear distinction between a landlord-tenant relationship versus an employer-employee relationship. Don't let the naysayers get to you - booth/table rental is an established and legitimate business model that's been used successfully across the grooming and beauty industries for decades. As long as you maintain proper documentation and operate with genuine independence (which it sounds like you do), you're on solid ground. Good luck with your move to the new location!
Thanks for sharing your experience! I'm actually just starting to research this setup since I'm considering opening my own grooming salon next year. When you say "rental agreement explicitly states that you're renting space only" - are there specific words or phrases that are important to include? I want to make sure I get the language right from the beginning to avoid any issues down the road. Also, have you ever had any problems with clients being confused about who they're actually doing business with? I'm wondering if there are any best practices for making it clear to customers that they're working directly with the individual groomer, not the salon itself.
The arrangement you're describing is definitely legal and quite common in the grooming industry. What you have is a classic booth/table rental setup, which the IRS recognizes as legitimate when structured properly. You've hit all the key markers for true independent contractor status: controlling your own schedule, handling direct client payments, setting your own rates, providing your own tools and supplies, carrying your own insurance, and filing Schedule C. These factors clearly distinguish you from an employee relationship. The people commenting on the ad are likely confusing this with situations where salon owners misclassify employees as independent contractors while still controlling their work. That's what gets salons in trouble - not legitimate booth rental arrangements like yours. Since you mentioned the previous owner was audited and passed, that's actually great evidence that this setup is compliant. The IRS has clear guidelines on worker classification, and booth rental arrangements that maintain true independence (like yours) consistently pass scrutiny. Just make sure you have a written rental agreement that specifies you're renting space only, not providing services to the salon owner. Keep good records of your independent operation - separate business cards, your own appointment scheduling, direct client payments, etc. This documentation will support your classification if any questions ever arise. You're definitely on the right track legally and tax-wise!
This is really helpful! I'm new to understanding business structures and tax classifications, so this breakdown makes a lot of sense. I've been worried about starting my own grooming business because I keep hearing conflicting information about what's legal and what isn't. The fact that you mentioned the previous owner was audited and passed is really reassuring - that's actual real-world proof that this setup works when done correctly. I'm definitely going to focus on getting a proper written rental agreement and keeping good documentation of my independent operations. One quick question - when you say "separate business cards," do you mean each groomer should have their own business cards with their own business name, or is it okay to have cards that show you work at the salon location but make it clear you're an independent contractor?
I'm in a similar situation with BoA and a May 25th DDD! Filed my amended return back in February and have been anxiously waiting. Based on all the experiences shared here, it sounds like BoA is pretty consistent with their 3-5am Eastern posting window on the actual DDD. I'm a bit nervous since it's my first time dealing with an amended return, but hearing that Marina went through this process twice with no issues on the banking side is reassuring. Going to set my alarm for 4am Saturday morning to check - fingers crossed we all wake up to good news! Has anyone else noticed if BoA sends any notification when the deposit hits, or do you just have to check your balance manually?
I've had BoA for about 3 years now and they do send mobile notifications when deposits hit if you have that enabled in your app settings! Usually comes through within a few minutes of the actual deposit posting. You can set it up under "Account Alerts" in the mobile app or online banking - just make sure to enable "Deposit Notifications" for amounts over whatever threshold you choose. That way you won't have to set an early alarm and can just wait for the ping on your phone. Good luck to everyone with May 25th DDDs - sounds like we're all in the same boat waiting for tomorrow morning!
Just wanted to follow up on this thread since I was in the exact same situation! My amended return was also accepted in April with a May 25th DDD, and I can confirm that BoA processed my deposit right on schedule at 3:48am Eastern this morning (Saturday). The amount matched my transcript exactly, and I did receive the mobile notification that Amara mentioned - it's definitely worth setting up those alerts! For anyone still waiting on future deposits, the consistency everyone described here was spot on. No special treatment needed for amended returns once the IRS releases the funds. The banking processing appears to be completely standardized regardless of return type. Hope this helps future folks who find this thread while anxiously waiting for their deposits like I was!
Has anyone used TurboTax to handle this kind of situation? I'm wondering if there's a way to note in the software that you're still waiting on the official receipt.
I used TurboTax last year and had a similar issue. There's no specific field for "pending documentation" but I just entered the donation with the info I had. Then I kept all my documentation (emails requesting the receipt, PayPal confirmation, etc.) in a folder in case of audit. Ultimately got the receipt 3 months after filing but at least I had it.
Just wanted to add my experience here - I went through something very similar last year with a $500 donation where the charity never responded to my requests for an official receipt. I ended up consulting with a tax preparer who told me that while the PayPal receipt alone isn't technically sufficient for amounts over $250, the IRS does consider your good faith efforts to obtain proper documentation. What really helped my case was keeping a detailed record of every attempt I made to contact the charity - screenshots of emails sent, phone call logs, even trying to reach them through their website contact form. I also verified the charity's 501(c)(3) status on the IRS Tax Exempt Organization Search tool and printed that out as supporting documentation. In the end, I claimed the deduction with the documentation I had, and fortunately was never questioned about it. But having that paper trail of attempting to get the proper receipt gave me peace of mind. The key is showing you made reasonable efforts to comply with the documentation requirements, even if the charity was unresponsive.
This is really helpful advice, Carmen! I'm in a similar boat and was stressing about whether to claim the deduction without the official receipt. Your point about documenting every attempt to contact the charity is smart - I've been emailing but haven't been keeping screenshots or records of the attempts. Quick question - when you used the IRS Tax Exempt Organization Search tool, did you just search by the charity name or did you need some other identifier? And did you find that having that printout actually made a difference, or was it more just for your own peace of mind? I think I'm going to follow your approach and create that paper trail while continuing to try to reach the charity. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Samantha Johnson
Thanks everyone for the detailed explanations! This is exactly what I needed to understand. So if I'm reading this correctly, the $31,050 on my paystub represents both the actual relocation expenses my company paid AND the additional amount they're giving me to cover the taxes on those expenses. The $21,927 "offset" is just an accounting line item to show how they're tracking it internally, but the full $31,050 will show up as taxable income on my W-2. The key point I was missing is that even though it looks like a lot of extra taxable income, my company has already calculated and included enough extra money so that after I pay taxes on the whole amount, I'm not actually out of pocket for the move. That's really generous of them! I was worried I'd be hit with a huge unexpected tax bill, but it sounds like they've already accounted for that. I'll definitely keep an eye on my W-2 next year to make sure everything looks right, but this gives me much more confidence in planning my tax situation. Really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences!
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Sofia Morales
β’You've got it exactly right! It's really confusing when you first see those numbers on your paystub, but you've understood it perfectly now. The gross up is definitely one of the more generous relocation benefits companies can offer - many don't do it at all and leave employees to handle the tax burden themselves. One small tip for next year's tax planning: even though your company calculated the gross up, the actual taxes you owe might be slightly different depending on your total income for the year, other deductions, etc. But any difference should be pretty minimal since they're using reasonable estimates. Just something to keep in mind when you're doing your final tax prep!
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Isla Fischer
Great breakdown everyone! As someone who works in corporate payroll, I can confirm that what's been explained here is spot on. The gross-up calculation is designed to make you "whole" after taxes, meaning you shouldn't be financially worse off due to the tax implications of your relocation benefit. One thing I'd add is that some companies will do a "true-up" calculation after your actual tax return is filed. If their estimated tax rate was too high or too low, they might adjust your pay the following year to account for any difference. Not all companies do this, but it's worth asking your HR or payroll team if they have a true-up policy. Also, make sure you keep all your relocation-related documentation. Even though you can't deduct moving expenses anymore for federal taxes, some states still allow deductions, and you'll want those records if you ever get questioned about the large income addition on your W-2.
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Douglas Foster
β’This is incredibly helpful information, especially about the potential true-up calculation! I had no idea some companies would adjust things after seeing your actual tax return. That makes me feel even better about the whole situation since it shows they're really trying to make sure employees aren't negatively impacted by the tax implications. The point about keeping documentation is great advice too. I've been saving everything from my move just in case, but knowing there might be state-level implications makes it even more important. Do you happen to know which states still allow moving expense deductions? I'm moving from California to Texas, so I'm curious if either of those states might have different rules. Also, should I be concerned about the timing of when this income hits my paystub versus when I actually incurred the moving expenses? Everything happened pretty close together, but I want to make sure I'm not missing anything for tax purposes.
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