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Malik Thomas

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Is your wife considered of counsel or an employee of a firm? That can change how this is reported. My wife is of counsel and her firm takes 40% of any referral fee (their policy), so she only gets 60% of it, but it's still reported on a 1099-NEC to her, not a W-2.

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This is an important question! The classification matters hugely. At my firm, associates don't get referral fees at all - partners get them as part of their partnership distribution (K-1). Every firm has different policies.

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Aidan Hudson

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One more thing to consider - since this is a substantial one-time payment ($48,000), you might want to look into whether you can make a SEP-IRA contribution to reduce the tax burden. If your wife treats this as self-employment income on Schedule C, she may be able to contribute up to 25% of her net self-employment earnings to a SEP-IRA (after deducting half of the self-employment tax). This could potentially allow her to shelter several thousand dollars from current taxation while building retirement savings. The contribution deadline would be the tax filing deadline (including extensions), so you'd have some time to set it up if you decide to go this route. Also, don't forget to factor in state taxes if you're in a state that has income tax - this referral fee will likely be subject to state income tax as well as federal.

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This is really helpful advice about the SEP-IRA option! I hadn't even thought about using this windfall to boost retirement savings while reducing the tax hit. Quick question though - since my wife also has a regular W-2 job with a 401(k), are there any limits or complications with also doing a SEP-IRA for her self-employment income? I want to make sure we don't accidentally exceed any contribution limits across both accounts.

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I keep seeing conflicting info about mortgage interest! Has anyone else noticed that some newer homes dont qualify for the full mortgage interest deduction? I think theres a new loan limit around $750k.

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You're right about the loan limit change. For mortgages taken out after December 15, 2017, you can only deduct interest on loan amounts up to $750,000. For older mortgages (before that date), the limit is $1 million. This was part of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.

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Marcus Marsh

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@Molly Hansen - Just to add another perspective on your mortgage interest situation: don't forget to also consider if you had any mortgage insurance premiums (PMI) during the year. If you paid PMI and meet certain income requirements, that could also be deductible and help push your itemized deductions higher. Also, since you mentioned you've been getting 1098s since 2019, you might want to double-check that you haven't been missing out on deductions in previous years. If you were taking the standard deduction but could have benefited from itemizing in any of those years, you can still file amended returns (Form 1040X) for up to three years back to claim those deductions. The mortgage interest deduction really is one of those things that can make a big difference depending on your total tax picture, so it's worth running the numbers each year!

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NeonNebula

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This is really helpful information everyone! As someone new to WOTC, I'm wondering about the state certification process that was mentioned. How long does it typically take to get the certification back from the state workforce agency after submitting Form 8850? We're planning to implement this program but want to make sure we understand the timeline - if there are delays in getting state certification, does that affect when we can claim the credit on our taxes? And what happens if an employee we thought was eligible ends up not getting certified by the state?

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Great questions! The state certification process typically takes 2-4 weeks, but it can vary by state and their current workload. The good news is that you can still claim the credit on your taxes even if you haven't received the official certification yet - you just need to have submitted Form 8850 within the 28-day deadline. If an employee you thought was eligible ends up not getting certified, you'll need to reverse any credits you claimed for that employee. This is why it's important to be conservative in your initial assessments and keep good records. I learned this the hard way when one of our veteran hires didn't meet the specific service requirements and we had to adjust our tax filing. Most companies I know follow a "file first, verify later" approach - submit the Form 8850 for anyone who might qualify, then adjust their tax calculations once they receive the official state determinations. It's much easier to remove a credit you shouldn't have claimed than to try to add one you missed due to paperwork delays.

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Emily Sanjay

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As someone who recently went through implementing WOTC at our mid-size tech company, I can share some practical insights. We hired 3 software engineers with disabilities last year and claimed the full credits for each - about $7,200 total savings on our tax bill. One thing I'd add to the great advice already shared: consider working with your local One-Stop Career Centers (part of the American Job Center network). They can help pre-screen candidates and often have relationships with disability service organizations. This made our hiring process much smoother since candidates were already familiar with WOTC and had their documentation ready. For higher-salary positions like you mentioned ($85-95k), the $2,400 credit might seem small percentage-wise, but remember it's a dollar-for-dollar reduction in your tax liability, not just a deduction. Plus, in my experience, candidates who qualify for WOTC often bring unique perspectives and problem-solving approaches that benefit the entire team - the real value goes beyond just the tax savings. The key is building WOTC into your standard HR processes from the start rather than trying to retrofit it later. We now include the self-identification forms in our standard onboarding packet for all new hires, which normalizes the process and ensures we don't miss any opportunities.

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This is exactly the kind of real-world implementation advice I was hoping to find! I'm curious about your experience with the One-Stop Career Centers - did they provide any training or guidance to your HR team about working with candidates with disabilities? We want to make sure we're approaching this respectfully and creating an inclusive interview process, not just focusing on the tax benefits. Also, how did you handle the timing of the self-identification forms - did candidates fill these out before or after receiving job offers?

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One important thing to consider that I don't see mentioned yet - if you've been claiming depreciation on the rental property over the years, you'll need to recapture that depreciation when you sell, and it's taxed at a higher rate (up to 25%) than regular capital gains. Make sure you have records of all the depreciation you've claimed since owning the property. This is separate from your capital gains calculation but equally important for your overall tax liability. The IRS will assume you claimed depreciation even if you didn't, so if you forgot to claim it in previous years, you might want to consider amending those returns or at least be prepared for the recapture. Also, regarding your FSBO question - while you'll save on commission, make sure you're prepared for all the other costs like title work, legal review of contracts, and potentially having to pay some of the buyer's closing costs to make the deal work. Sometimes the "savings" from FSBO aren't as much as initially expected once you factor in all these other expenses.

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PrinceJoe

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This is such an important point about depreciation recapture that often gets overlooked! I'm curious - if someone forgot to claim depreciation in previous years but the IRS still expects recapture, would it make sense to amend those old returns to at least get the benefit of the deductions they missed? Or is it too late once you're selling? Also, regarding the FSBO costs you mentioned - what would you estimate as a realistic "all-in" cost for selling without an agent? I'm trying to figure out if the $16K commission savings actually nets out to meaningful savings after legal fees, title work, etc.

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Zoe Wang

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Great question about depreciation recapture! You can still amend previous returns to claim missed depreciation, but there are time limits - generally 3 years from the original filing date for each year. However, even if you can't amend, claiming the missed depreciation might still be worth consulting a tax professional about since the recapture will happen regardless. For FSBO costs, here's what I experienced when I sold my rental last year: attorney fees ($800-1200), title insurance/closing costs ($1500-2500), any buyer concessions you might need to make ($2000-5000 depending on market), professional photos ($300-500), and miscellaneous marketing costs ($200-500). So you're looking at roughly $5000-10000 in costs even without an agent. In your case, if agent commission is $16K and FSBO costs are around $7K, you'd net about $9K in savings. But factor in the time investment and stress of managing everything yourself - for some people that $9K isn't worth the hassle, especially when dealing with complex tax situations on rental properties. One more tip: if you do go FSBO, consider hiring a real estate attorney just for contract review and closing coordination. It's a middle ground that gives you professional guidance on the legal aspects while still saving most of the commission.

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Mateo Warren

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This breakdown of FSBO costs is really helpful - thanks for the detailed numbers! The $9K net savings does seem meaningful, but you're right about the time and stress factor. I hadn't thought about hiring just an attorney for contract review as a middle ground option. One follow-up question on the depreciation piece: if we've been working with the same CPA for years who handled our rental property taxes, should they already have all the depreciation records we'd need for the recapture calculation? Or is there additional documentation we should be gathering on our own to prepare for the sale? Also wondering if anyone has experience with how buyers react to FSBO properties when it comes to negotiations. Do they typically expect bigger concessions since there's no agent commission being paid?

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Thanks for all the detailed comparisons everyone! This thread has been super helpful. I'm leaning toward the desktop version now based on the cost savings and privacy benefits. One question I haven't seen addressed - if I buy TurboTax Desktop, can I still e-file my return or do I have to print and mail it? I've been e-filing for years and really don't want to go back to paper filing if I can avoid it. Also, does anyone know if the desktop version still offers the same refund advance options as online?

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Benjamin Kim

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Yes, you can absolutely e-file with TurboTax Desktop! That's one of the main advantages - you get all the same e-filing capabilities as the online version. The software walks you through the e-filing process just like online, and you'll get the same confirmation and tracking once your return is submitted. As for refund advances, that's where there might be a difference. The online version typically partners with banks to offer refund advances, but I'm not 100% sure if the desktop version has the same options. You might want to check the specific product details for whichever desktop edition you're considering, or contact TurboTax directly to confirm what refund options are available with the desktop software. The e-filing capability alone makes desktop worth it in my opinion - you get the cost savings and privacy benefits without having to deal with paper forms and mailing!

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I've been using TurboTax Desktop for the past three years and can confirm most of what's been said here. The cost savings are real - I typically save $50-80 per year compared to the online version, especially when you factor in that the desktop version often goes on sale at retailers like Costco or Amazon. One thing I'd add is that the desktop version is great if you like to work on your taxes in multiple sessions over several weeks. Since everything is saved locally, you can pick up exactly where you left off without worrying about cloud sync issues or having to remember which browser you were using. For anyone concerned about missing out on new features, I haven't found that to be an issue. The desktop software gets the same tax law updates and new form support as the online version. The main trade-off is convenience - you can only work on your taxes from the computer where it's installed, but for most people that's not a big deal since tax prep usually happens at home anyway. Bottom line: if you're comfortable with basic software installation and want to save money while keeping your data private, desktop is definitely the way to go!

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