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Just wanted to add that my business partner and I chose an LLC for our home renovation company, and we elected S-corp taxation after the first year when we started making decent profit. The key advantage was paying ourselves reasonable salaries and taking the rest as distributions, which saved us thousands in self-employment taxes. One mistake we made was not having a really solid operating agreement at the start. Def spend the money to have a lawyer draft one that covers what happens if one partner wants out, gets disabled, etc. We had a rough patch where my partner wanted to take on projects I thought were too risky, and without clear decision-making protocols in our agreement, it created some real tension.
How much did it cost you to make the S-corp election after starting as an LLC? Did you have to file any additional paperwork with the state or just with the IRS?
The S-corp election itself was free - you just file Form 2553 with the IRS. We didn't have to file anything additional with the state since we were already registered as an LLC. The costs came from hiring an accountant to help us understand the payroll requirements (about $400 for the consultation) and then we pay about $150 extra per month for payroll processing now that we have to run actual payroll for ourselves. But the tax savings made it worthwhile once we were consistently profitable. First year we just operated as a partnership-taxed LLC to keep things simple while getting established. Definitely talk to a tax pro who knows construction businesses before making the S-corp election because timing matters.
Great discussion here! As someone who's been through the LLC vs LLP decision for my electrical contracting business, I'd echo what others have said about LLC being the better choice for contractors. One thing I haven't seen mentioned is worker classification issues. With construction, you'll likely work with both employees and subcontractors, and the IRS scrutinizes this heavily. LLCs give you more flexibility in how you structure these relationships compared to LLPs. Also, if you're planning to eventually bring on additional partners or investors down the road, LLCs make that much easier. We started as just two partners but brought in a third after year two when we landed some bigger commercial contracts. The LLC structure made adding him straightforward without having to restructure the entire business. For what it's worth, our accountant recommended starting simple with basic LLC partnership taxation for the first year or two, then evaluating S-corp election once you're consistently profitable and can justify the payroll overhead. That approach worked well for us - kept initial compliance costs low while we were figuring out the business.
This is really helpful insight about worker classification! I hadn't thought about how the business structure might affect our ability to work with subcontractors. We're definitely planning to use subs for specialized work like plumbing and electrical. Can you elaborate on what specific flexibility the LLC provides for contractor relationships that an LLP wouldn't? Also curious about your experience adding the third partner - were there any tax implications or complications we should be aware of if we decide to expand later?
I've been in a very similar situation with a 470 code and outstanding EIC balance! The court ruling you have is absolutely incredible documentation - that's legal proof the IRS can't ignore that their original adjustment was wrong. From my experience and what I've seen others go through, they'll likely apply part of your refund to the outstanding balance, but with your hardship status and especially that court documentation, you should definitely see a significant portion back. My 470 took about 9 weeks to clear and I got roughly 65% of my refund even with an old debt. Keep copies of that court ruling everywhere and make sure the IRS has it in their system. Call every couple weeks for updates and don't be afraid to reference that court decision in every conversation. The waiting is absolutely brutal but you're in such a strong position with that legal backing. This is going to work out in your favor! š¤
I'm dealing with a 470 code myself and have been following this thread closely - it's been so helpful to see everyone's experiences! Your situation with the court ruling sounds really strong. From what I've learned, the 470 code means they're doing additional review, which can be nerve-wracking but often works out okay in the end. The fact that you have legal documentation proving the custody/EIC situation should work heavily in your favor. Most people I've seen with similar cases get at least a partial refund even with outstanding balances, especially with hardship status. The waiting is absolutely brutal (I'm at week 5 myself) but reading all these success stories gives me hope that these codes do eventually clear. Keep that court paperwork handy and don't hesitate to call every few weeks for updates. Your case looks really promising! š¤
Friendly reminder that even if you use FreeTaxUSA, you can still deduct tax preparation fees as a business expense on Schedule C for your self-employment income! That includes any paid tax software. You just can't deduct the portion related to personal taxes or your rental (which would go on Schedule E). Also, don't forget about the home office deduction if you use part of your home regularly and exclusively for your self-employment work. That's a commonly missed deduction that can be significant.
I've been dealing with rental property and 1099 income for about 5 years now, and here's what I've learned: the first year is definitely the hardest because you're setting up all your depreciation schedules and figuring out what expenses are deductible vs. what needs to be capitalized. For your situation, I'd actually recommend starting with FreeTaxUSA since you're organized with your records. The software has gotten really good at walking you through rental property depreciation - it asks you the right questions about purchase price, improvements, land value, etc. The key is being conservative and keeping good documentation for everything. One thing that saved me money was keeping a separate spreadsheet throughout the year tracking all rental expenses by category (repairs, maintenance, insurance, etc.) and all my 1099 business expenses. This makes tax time much smoother regardless of which route you choose. If you run into specific questions while preparing your return, you can always pay a CPA for a consultation to review just those tricky areas rather than having them do the whole return. Many charge $100-150 for a review, which could give you peace of mind without the full $525 cost.
This is really helpful advice! I'm actually in my first year with a rental property too and was feeling overwhelmed by all the depreciation stuff. The idea of keeping a separate spreadsheet throughout the year is smart - I wish I had started doing that from the beginning instead of trying to piece everything together now at tax time. Do you have any specific recommendations for how to categorize expenses in the spreadsheet? I keep going back and forth on whether certain things should be repairs vs improvements, and I know that makes a big difference for taxes.
Has anyone had this situation where the supplemental info on a zero 1099G actually DID affect their taxes? My tax software is asking me to enter this information even though the main fields are zero.
Which tax software are you using? I had TurboTax and it asked me for the 1099G info, but then when I entered all zeros for the main sections, it basically just acknowledged it and moved on without asking for the supplemental stuff.
I've seen this exact scenario with my clients before. When your 1099-G shows zeros in all the main payment boxes but has data in the supplemental tax information section, it's typically showing adjustments or corrections that were processed in 2022 but relate to benefits from previous years. Since you didn't receive any unemployment compensation in 2022, you don't need to report any unemployment income on your 2022 tax return. The supplemental information is more for documentation and tracking purposes - it might show things like overpayment recoveries, interest adjustments, or corrections to previously reported amounts. You should definitely keep this form with your tax records, but it shouldn't impact your actual tax filing for 2022. If you want absolute certainty about what those specific numbers mean, you can contact your state unemployment office, but from a tax preparation standpoint, zero benefits received means zero to report on your return.
This is really helpful clarification! I've been stressing about this exact situation. So just to confirm - even if my tax software prompts me to enter the 1099G information, I should only be entering the zeros from the main sections and can essentially ignore the supplemental section numbers for tax filing purposes? I want to make sure I'm not missing something that could cause problems later.
Joy Olmedo
I went through this exact same situation last year as a freelance photographer! The biggest game-changer for me was getting an "Income Verification Letter" from my CPA. Even though it cost me $150, it was totally worth it because it provided third-party professional validation of my 1099 income and business stability. The letter included my annual income totals, average monthly earnings, and a statement about the consistency of my freelance business over the past two years. When I presented this alongside my 1099s and bank statements, landlords immediately took my application more seriously. It's like having a professional vouch for your income stability. If you don't have a CPA, even a local tax preparer can often provide this kind of documentation. The key is having someone with credentials verify your income rather than just self-reporting it. Made all the difference in getting my applications approved quickly instead of constantly having to explain my employment situation.
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Atticus Domingo
ā¢@Joy Olmedo That s'brilliant advice about the CPA letter! I m'actually dealing with this right now and wondering - did you provide the CPA with just your 1099s or did they need additional documentation like bank statements or client contracts? Also, how long did it take them to prepare the letter? I m'hoping to move quickly on an application and want to make sure I give my tax preparer everything they need upfront. The $150 investment definitely seems worth it if it streamlines the approval process like you described!
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Omar Fawaz
ā¢@Joy Olmedo and @Atticus Domingo - I actually just went through this process with my CPA last month! For the income verification letter, I provided my CPA with all my 1099s from the previous tax year, my filed tax return including Schedule (C , and)about 6 months of bank statements showing the deposit patterns. The letter took about a week to prepare, but that was mostly due to scheduling - the actual work only took them a couple hours. My CPA included specific language about the ongoing nature "of my" freelance business and mentioned that my income showed consistent growth "patterns which really" seemed to impress the property managers. Most CPAs have a standard template for these letters since they get requests fairly often. The key sections were: verification of my business registration, annual income totals for the past 2 years, average monthly income, and a professional assessment of income stability. Definitely worth the investment - I got approved for 3 different properties using that same letter!
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Savanna Franklin
As a fellow freelancer who just went through this process, I want to emphasize something that really helped me: don't just submit your documents and hope for the best - be proactive in scheduling a brief meeting or phone call with the leasing agent to walk them through your income documentation. I found that many property managers have never dealt with 1099 income before, so they default to "no" because it doesn't fit their standard checklist. But when I took 10 minutes to explain my business model, show them my income trends over the past year, and demonstrate how my freelance income actually provides more stability than some traditional jobs (since I have multiple clients rather than depending on one employer), they became much more comfortable with my application. I also created a simple one-page summary that showed: "Total 2023 Income from 1099s: $X", "Average Monthly Income: $Y", "Number of Regular Clients: Z", and "Years in Business: #". This made it super easy for them to see that I meet their income requirements without having to dig through multiple forms. The key is education and presentation - once they understand that 1099 income can be just as reliable as W-2 income, most reasonable landlords are happy to work with you. Don't get discouraged if the first place says no - keep looking for landlords who are willing to evaluate your actual financial situation rather than just checking boxes!
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Jamal Harris
ā¢This is such valuable advice about being proactive with the leasing agents! I'm just starting my freelance journey as a social media manager and haven't had to deal with rental applications yet, but this thread has been incredibly eye-opening. The idea of creating that one-page summary is genius - it really does seem like the key is making it as easy as possible for them to understand your income situation. I'm definitely going to bookmark all these suggestions for when I need to move next year. It's reassuring to know that with the right approach and documentation, freelancers can successfully navigate the rental process even though we don't fit the traditional employment model.
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