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Luis Johnson

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As someone who's been preparing S-Corp returns for over a decade, I can confirm everything mentioned here is spot on! The lack of basis information directly on the K-1 is definitely one of the biggest differences from partnership returns and catches many preparers off guard initially. One thing I'd add for ProTax users specifically: make sure you're entering the shareholder's beginning basis correctly in the input screens. The software won't automatically carry forward basis from prior years like some other programs do, so you need to manually input the prior year ending basis as the current year beginning basis. I've seen preparers accidentally reset basis to zero each year because they missed this step. Also, for complex situations with multiple shareholders or mid-year stock transfers, consider using Form 7203 even though it's optional. It provides a standardized format that the IRS recognizes and can be helpful during examinations. Your software should be able to generate this form if you need the additional documentation. The basis tracking really is essential - I've had clients get hit with unexpected taxable income on distributions because their previous preparer wasn't properly maintaining basis records. Better to over-document than under-document with S-Corp basis!

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Yara Campbell

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This is exactly the kind of practical advice that would have saved me so much time when I was starting out! The point about manually entering beginning basis in ProTax is crucial - I actually made that exact mistake on my first few S-Corp returns and had to go back and correct everything. Your suggestion about Form 7203 is really helpful too. I've been hesitant to use optional forms, but having that standardized IRS format for documentation makes a lot of sense, especially for audit protection. Do you typically generate Form 7203 for all your S-Corp clients, or only in certain situations like complex ownership structures or when you anticipate potential IRS scrutiny? Also, your comment about over-documenting really resonates. I'm learning that with S-Corp basis, it's much better to have too much documentation than to try to reconstruct years of basis calculations later when a client gets audited or changes preparers.

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Diego Chavez

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I use Form 7203 selectively rather than for every S-Corp client. I typically generate it when there are multiple shareholders with different ownership percentages, when there have been significant mid-year changes in stock ownership, or when the client has a history of aggressive tax positions that might attract IRS attention. For straightforward single-shareholder S-Corps with simple transactions, the supplemental basis worksheet is usually sufficient. But for anything involving debt basis utilization, suspended losses carrying forward, or situations where distributions exceed stock basis, I find Form 7203 provides that extra layer of documentation that gives both me and the client peace of mind. The key is being proactive about documentation. I've found that taking an extra 15-20 minutes to properly document basis calculations during preparation can save hours of reconstruction work later. And trust me, you don't want to be the preparer trying to explain to an IRS agent why you can't support the basis calculations that allowed $50,000 in losses to flow through to the shareholder's personal return!

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Klaus Schmidt

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This has been such an enlightening discussion! As someone who primarily worked with individual returns and is now expanding into business entities, the basis tracking differences between partnerships and S-Corps were completely mystifying to me. What I'm taking away from this thread is that the IRS essentially puts the responsibility on shareholders to maintain their own basis records, which explains why it's not prominently displayed on the K-1 like partnership capital accounts. The supplemental worksheets in tax software are really just tools to help us (and our clients) fulfill that responsibility. One thing that's still not completely clear to me: when we prepare these basis worksheets as supporting documentation, are we required to provide them to clients, or is it more of a best practice? I want to make sure I'm meeting all my professional obligations while also protecting my clients from potential issues down the road. Also, for those using different software platforms - does this same "hunt for the basis worksheet" challenge exist in other programs like Drake, Lacerte, or TurboTax Business? It sounds like this might be a universal issue with S-Corp software rather than just a ProTax quirk.

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Keisha Williams

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Great questions! While you're not legally required to provide basis worksheets to clients, it's definitely considered a best practice - and I'd argue it's almost essential for S-Corp clients. Think of it as part of your value-add service. Clients need this information to properly report future transactions, and if they ever switch preparers, having clean basis records makes the transition much smoother. Regarding other software platforms - yes, this is pretty much a universal challenge! I've used Drake, Lacerte, and UltraTax over the years, and they all handle S-Corp basis tracking similarly. The worksheets are there, but they're usually tucked away in supplemental schedules rather than being front and center like partnership capital accounts. Each software just organizes them slightly differently (Drake calls them "Client Letters," Lacerte puts them under "Other Statements," etc.). The key is learning where your specific software hides these worksheets and making sure you're consistently using them. I always include the basis worksheet in my client packages by default now - it prevents so many headaches later when clients ask about their basis for planning purposes or when they're considering distributions vs. salary strategies.

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As someone who's worked with multiple software platforms over the years, I can confirm that this "basis worksheet hunt" is definitely universal across all major tax software! Each program handles it slightly differently - in Drake you'll find it under "Miscellaneous Forms," Lacerte puts it in "Client Organizer," and UltraTax has it under "Supporting Schedules." What I've learned is that software developers seem to treat S-Corp basis tracking as supplemental rather than core functionality, which is frustrating given how critical it is for compliance. The good news is that once you know where to look in your specific software, it becomes second nature. Regarding providing basis worksheets to clients - while not legally required, I consider it essential professional service. Your clients will need this information for future years, whether they stay with you or move to another preparer. Plus, having documented basis calculations protects both you and your client if the IRS ever questions distribution treatments or loss limitations. I've made it standard practice to include basis worksheets in every S-Corp client package, and clients really appreciate having that documentation for their records.

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I completely understand your confusion about the disappearing codes - the IRS transcript system can be incredibly bewildering, especially when you're still getting familiar with how it all works! What you're experiencing is actually quite typical during tax processing. The 424 code essentially flags your return for some kind of review or verification, but when that review is completed successfully, the IRS removes the 424 and replaces it with a 420 (examination closed) along with the 971 (notice issued). It's like they're updating your file to reflect the current status rather than keeping a historical record of every step. Since you mentioned being in the US for only 3 years, this could be related to verifying foreign income, education credits, or even just routine checks they do for newer taxpayers to ensure everything aligns with their records. The key thing to watch for is whether any additional freeze codes appear in the coming days. The good news is that the pattern you're seeing (424 disappears β†’ 420 and 971 appear) typically indicates successful completion of whatever they were reviewing. Most people who see this sequence get their refunds within 7-14 days. Keep checking your transcript periodically for a 846 code with a refund date - that's when you'll know you're officially in the clear! The 971 notice should arrive soon and will explain exactly what they reviewed, which should give you peace of mind about the whole process.

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Joshua Hellan

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This is such a helpful and comprehensive explanation! As someone who's been anxiously checking my transcript multiple times a day since the codes changed, your breakdown really puts things into perspective. The idea that they're "updating your file to reflect current status rather than keeping a historical record" makes so much sense - I was wondering where that 424 code went and if it meant something was wrong with my filing. Your point about this potentially being routine verification for newer taxpayers is particularly relevant to my situation. I did have some complexity with reporting foreign income from before I immigrated, so that could definitely explain why they flagged it for review initially. I'll try to be more patient and check for that 846 code over the next week or two instead of obsessively monitoring every day. Thank you for the reassurance - it's exactly what I needed to hear as someone still learning how this system works!

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This is such a common experience for newcomers to the US tax system! I went through something very similar during my second year filing taxes here. The disappearing 424 code followed by 420 and 971 is actually part of the normal IRS workflow - think of it as their internal status updates rather than something to be concerned about. In most cases, this pattern indicates they completed whatever verification they were doing (could be anything from income verification to dependent checks) and are now moving your return forward for processing. The 971 notice you'll receive should explain exactly what they reviewed. From what I've observed in this community, people typically see their refund dates appear within 1-2 weeks after this code sequence. Since you mentioned being relatively new to the US, they might have been doing routine verification of your tax history or foreign income reporting - both very standard procedures. Try not to stress too much about it! The IRS system is confusing by design, but this particular pattern is usually good news wrapped in bureaucratic mystery. Keep an eye on your transcript for that 846 refund code, and you should be all set soon.

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Joshua Wood

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Quick question for those who've done the Streamlined Procedure - did you have to amend state tax returns too? I lived in California before moving to Austria 10 years ago, and I'm confused if I need to file CA state returns as part of the Streamlined process.

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Aaron Lee

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This is an important question that many overlook. Unlike the federal government, states have their own rules about residency and tax obligations. If you established residency in Austria and have genuinely cut ties with California (no property, bank accounts, driver's license, etc.), you likely don't need to file CA returns. However, California is notorious for aggressively claiming people remain residents. If you still have any connections to CA, it's worth addressing this as part of your Streamlined filing. Some states have their own voluntary disclosure programs separate from the IRS version.

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Jamal Carter

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@Alexis Robinson - I went through almost the exact same situation as a US/Austrian dual citizen about 2 years ago! The stress you're feeling is totally normal, but the good news is it's very manageable once you understand the process. A few key points from my experience: - The Streamlined Foreign Offshore Procedures are specifically designed for people like us who didn't know about filing requirements - No penalties if you qualify (which you almost certainly do based on your situation) - You'll need 3 years of tax returns (2022-2024) and 6 years of FBAR forms - Austria's tax treaty with the US means you'll likely owe little to nothing thanks to Foreign Earned Income Exclusion and tax credits For costs, I ended up paying around €2,800 to a CPA who specializes in expat taxes. It was worth every penny for the peace of mind, especially since my Austrian investment accounts needed careful handling to avoid PFIC complications. One specific tip: gather all your Austrian tax documents (Steuerbescheid) from the past 3 years before meeting with anyone. The Foreign Tax Credit calculations rely heavily on what you already paid to Austria, and having these organized upfront saves time and money. Feel free to ask if you have specific questions about the process!

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Summer Green

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@Jamal Carter This is super helpful, thanks! I m'definitely feeling overwhelmed by all the different forms and requirements. Quick question about the FBAR forms - when you say 6 years, does that mean I need to report every single bank account I ve'had during that period, even ones I closed? I switched banks a couple times and I m'worried about tracking down old account information. Also, did your CPA handle the actual submission to the IRS or did you have to file everything yourself? I m'trying to figure out if the €2,800 you paid included the filing service or just the preparation.

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Does anyone know if copies are ok or do they need originals?

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Diego Vargas

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Certified copies are fine for most docs except SS cards - those need to be original.

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Simon White

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Thanks for the heads up! As someone who's been doing their own taxes for years, this is really helpful to know. I was wondering why my usual tax prep place sent out that long list of documents to bring this year. It seemed excessive but makes total sense now with the IRS crackdown. Better to be over-prepared than deal with problems later. Appreciate you taking the time to explain this to everyone!

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PaulineW

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Totally agree! I'm new to this community but have been watching all the tax prep changes this year. It's crazy how much more documentation they're requiring now. I appreciate tax pros like @Chloe Anderson taking the time to explain this stuff - saves us all from showing up unprepared and wasting everyone s'time. Better to know what to expect going in!

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Oliver Cheng

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This is such valuable clarification about the timing distinction! I think this might explain some of the confusion I was having about urgency levels. Looking back at my grant documents, what I received were indeed stock options (ISOs specifically), not restricted stock grants. The company email about filing 83(b) elections was probably sent to everyone regardless of their specific grant type, which created unnecessary panic on my end. So if I understand correctly, I don't need to rush to file the 83(b) election right now - I can wait until I actually exercise the options and receive the restricted stock, at which point I'd have 30 days from that exercise date to file the election. This gives me much more time to properly navigate the ITIN process and plan the logistics. This is honestly a huge relief! I was getting really stressed about the tight timeline, especially dealing with international shipping from Brazil. Now I can take the time to properly understand the tax implications in both countries and maybe even consult with professionals who specialize in both US and Brazilian tax law. Thanks for this clarification - it's exactly the kind of expert insight that was missing from my Google searches and conversations with local accountants who weren't familiar with US tax rules.

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Mei Wong

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This is exactly the kind of clarification that can save people from unnecessary stress! I'm glad Admin_Masters caught this distinction because I was getting caught up in the urgency too. Just to add another perspective as someone who's been through both scenarios - when you do eventually exercise those ISOs, make sure you understand the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) implications as a non-resident. The 83(b) election can be beneficial for ISOs because it helps you avoid AMT on the spread between exercise price and fair market value, but the calculations get complex when you're dealing with international tax situations. Also, since you now have more time to plan, I'd strongly recommend getting that ITIN application started anyway. Even though you don't need it immediately for the 83(b) election, you'll definitely need it when you do exercise the options, and the ITIN process can take months. Better to have it ready when you need it rather than trying to rush it later. The silver lining of this timing mix-up is that you now have the opportunity to properly plan both the US and Brazilian tax implications before making any irreversible elections. Take advantage of that extra time!

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Yara Nassar

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Great catch by Admin_Masters on the stock options vs restricted stock distinction! This is exactly why it's so important to read the fine print of your equity compensation documents. Since you now have more breathing room with ISOs, I'd recommend using this time to also research the Brazilian tax implications. Brazil's tax treatment of foreign stock options can be quite complex, especially regarding the timing of when gains are recognized. Some Brazilian tax advisors recommend making certain elections with the Receita Federal that can affect how your eventual stock gains are taxed there. Also, while you're waiting to exercise, keep an eye on your company's fair market value assessments. For ISOs, the spread between your exercise price and the FMV at exercise is what triggers AMT considerations. If your startup's valuation is growing rapidly, this could significantly impact your tax planning when you do decide to exercise. One more practical tip - start documenting everything now. Keep records of all FMV assessments, exercise price details, and any company communications about the equity program. You'll need this documentation for both US and Brazilian tax purposes when the time comes to exercise and potentially file that 83(b) election.

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Romeo Quest

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This is really comprehensive advice, especially about the Brazilian tax planning! As someone new to navigating international equity compensation, I'm realizing there are so many layers to consider beyond just the US tax implications. Your point about documenting everything from the start is particularly valuable - I can already see how easy it would be to lose track of important details over time, especially with fair market value assessments that might change frequently for a growing startup. I'm curious about the Brazilian elections you mentioned with the Receita Federal. Do you know if these need to be made within a specific timeframe, or can they be done closer to when I actually exercise the options? I want to make sure I'm not missing any Brazilian deadlines while I'm focused on understanding the US requirements. Also, regarding the AMT implications you and @1f57cb1d9e47 mentioned - is this something that typically makes the 83(b) election more or less attractive for non-residents, or does it depend entirely on individual circumstances and the company's valuation trajectory? Thanks for helping me think through all these interconnected pieces - it's clear I need to take a more holistic approach to planning this rather than just focusing on the US tax aspects!

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Great question about the Brazilian timing! The Receita Federal elections I mentioned (particularly the "carnΓͺ-leΓ£o" monthly declarations for foreign income) generally need to be made in the tax year when you receive or are deemed to receive the income. For stock options, this typically means the year you exercise, not when you receive the grant. However, Brazil has some complex "deemed realization" rules that can sometimes trigger tax obligations earlier, especially if you hold a significant percentage of the company. Since you mentioned you're just one employee among many, this probably won't apply to you, but it's worth confirming with a Brazilian tax advisor who specializes in international equity compensation. Regarding AMT and the 83(b) election for non-residents - it's generally more attractive because it can help you avoid AMT on the spread at exercise. Without the election, if your company's value has grown significantly by the time you exercise, that entire spread gets hit with AMT. With the 83(b) election, you're taxed on the much smaller spread at grant (often zero for early-stage startups), then only pay capital gains rates on the appreciation when you sell. For non-residents, this is usually beneficial because you're likely only subject to US tax on the capital gains when you actually sell the shares, and the rates are generally more favorable than ordinary income rates. Just make sure to coordinate with Brazilian tax planning since you'll need to report this income there too!

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