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I've been using FreeTaxUSA for the last 3 years and it's WAY better than TurboTax. Federal filing is completely free no matter how complicated your taxes are, and state is only $15. No hidden fees or upsells constantly popping up. TurboTax tried to charge me $120 for self-employment income the year before I switched. FreeTaxUSA handled my Schedule C, home office deduction, and mileage tracking for $0. The interface isn't as pretty but it works perfectly.

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Does FreeTaxUSA have a good audit protection plan? That's the only thing keeping me with TurboTax. I'm always afraid of being audited especially with my side gig income.

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Andre Moreau

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm in a similar situation with my S Corp and was actually leaning toward the contractor approach until reading all these responses. The consensus is crystal clear - it's not worth the audit risk and actually defeats the purpose of having an S Corp structure. What strikes me most is how this seems like it should be a viable option on the surface, but the tax code and IRS guidance make it clear that owner-employees can't simply reclassify themselves as contractors to avoid payroll taxes. The whole reasonable compensation requirement exists specifically to prevent this kind of arrangement. I think the key takeaway for anyone considering this is that the S Corp tax advantages come from the proper balance of salary and distributions, not from trying to work around the employment relationship. Better to stay compliant and optimize within the established framework than risk penalties and back taxes from an audit.

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Absolutely agree! This thread really opened my eyes to how nuanced S Corp compensation rules actually are. I'm relatively new to this community but have been researching S Corp structures for my business, and I almost fell into the same trap of thinking the contractor route would be simpler. What really resonates with me is how everyone here emphasized that the IRS specifically watches for these arrangements. It seems like they've seen enough S Corp owners try this approach that it's become a major red flag during audits. The risk-reward just doesn't make sense when you could end up paying more in penalties than you'd save in taxes. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and resources - this is exactly the kind of practical guidance that makes this community so valuable for business owners navigating these complex tax situations.

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Jade Lopez

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Great discussion everyone! As someone who's been through multiple IRS audits with my S Corp, I can confirm that owner-contractor arrangements are absolutely a red flag they look for. During my last audit in 2022, the agent specifically asked about my compensation structure and whether I had ever tried to pay myself as a contractor. What many people don't realize is that the IRS has gotten much more sophisticated in detecting these arrangements through automated screening systems. They can easily cross-reference your 1120S with your personal return to spot inconsistencies in how you're reporting income from your own corporation. The "reasonable compensation" requirement isn't just a suggestion - it's mandatory for any S Corp owner who provides services to their business. The penalty for getting this wrong isn't just back taxes, it's also interest and potential fraud penalties if they determine you were deliberately trying to avoid payroll taxes. Stick with the tried-and-true approach: take a reasonable W-2 salary for the services you provide, then take additional profits as distributions. It's compliant, defensible, and gives you the tax benefits you're looking for without the audit risk.

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Kevin Bell

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This is incredibly valuable insight from someone who's actually been through IRS audits! As a newcomer to S Corp ownership, hearing about the automated screening systems really drives home how seriously the IRS takes these compensation arrangements. It's eye-opening that they can cross-reference returns so easily to spot potential issues. Your point about the penalties being more than just back taxes is particularly sobering - fraud penalties would be devastating for any small business owner. It really reinforces what everyone else has been saying about the risk not being worth any potential benefit. I'm curious though - during your audits, did the IRS agents provide any specific guidance on what they consider "reasonable compensation" for your industry, or did you have to rely on your own research and comparable salary data? I'm trying to make sure I set my salary at the right level from the start to avoid any issues down the road.

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Malik Davis

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As someone who just finished their second tax season, I can offer some perspective on starting out. I went with Drake after agonizing over the same decision and it was the right choice for me. The key thing is that Drake's automation really shines when you're handling the volume you're expecting (50-200 clients). Yes, there's a learning curve, but honestly it's not that steep if you take advantage of their training resources. They have webinars specifically for new users and the documentation is solid. For your assistants, I'd recommend having them focus on one type of return at first (like basic 1040s) until they get comfortable with the interface. Drake's consistency across different return types actually makes training easier once they understand the basic workflow. One tip - definitely take advantage of Drake's free trial period to test it out with some practice returns before committing. That way you and your team can get a feel for the interface before tax season hits. The time you invest in learning it upfront will pay dividends when you're in the thick of filing season. Budget-wise, when you factor in the time savings from automation, Drake usually comes out ahead even if the upfront cost is slightly higher.

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Mia Roberts

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This is really helpful advice! How long was the trial period when you used it? I'm hoping to get both my assistants trained on whichever system we choose before we start taking on clients in January. Also, did you find Drake's training webinars covered the business return aspects well, or were they mostly focused on individual returns?

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I've been using Drake for about 5 years now and can definitely vouch for it being a solid choice for new practices. One thing I'd add to the conversation is that Drake's diagnostic system is incredibly helpful when you're starting out - it catches errors and missing information that might slip by when you're still learning the ins and outs of tax preparation. For your business returns (1120s and LLCs), Drake handles depreciation schedules and multi-state filings really well, which could be important as your practice grows. The built-in calculators for things like Section 199A deductions are also a huge time-saver. Regarding training your assistants, I'd suggest starting them on the data entry for simple 1040s first, then gradually introducing more complex returns. Drake's interview-style input makes it pretty intuitive - it asks the right questions in the right order, which helps prevent mistakes. One cost consideration that hasn't been mentioned yet is that Drake includes unlimited amendments in their pricing, while some other software charges extra for each amended return. As a new preparer, you might find yourself filing a few more amendments than expected in your first year, so this could save you money. The customer portal feature is also great for client communication - clients can securely upload documents and review their returns online, which reduces back-and-forth emails and phone calls.

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Thanks for mentioning the unlimited amendments feature! I hadn't considered that and you're absolutely right - as someone new to tax prep, I'll probably make more mistakes in my first year. That alone could justify the cost difference if Taxslayer charges per amendment. The diagnostic system sounds really valuable too. Do you know if it flags common beginner mistakes specifically, or is it more general error-checking? I'm worried about missing something important on a business return and having to deal with IRS notices later. Also curious about the client portal - does that come standard with all Drake packages or is it an add-on feature?

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I found another key difference - timing. Bank account bonuses typically require you to keep money deposited for a certain period (like 90 days), which is why it's considered interest - you're being paid for the use of your money over time. Credit card rewards are instant - you make a purchase and get the reward immediately as a percentage back. Makes it clearer why the IRS views them differently.

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Anita George

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That actually makes a lot of sense! I never thought about the time factor. So the bank is basically renting my money for 3 months and paying me for it, while credit card rewards are just immediate discounts. Finally an explanation that clicks for me lol

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This is such a common confusion and you're definitely not alone in being surprised by those 1099-INT forms! I went through the same thing last year with a Bank of America bonus. The key thing to understand is that the IRS looks at the underlying economic substance of these transactions. When you get a bank account bonus, you're essentially being paid interest for allowing the bank to use your deposited funds - even if it's just the minimum amount to keep the account open. That's why it's reported as interest income on Form 1099-INT. Credit card rewards are fundamentally different because they're tied to your spending activity. When you get 2% cash back on groceries, the IRS views this as you effectively paying 98% of the original price, not as you receiving separate income. It's a price adjustment, not compensation. For your $700 in bank bonuses, yes, you'll need to report this as taxable income on your return. The good news is that if you're in a lower tax bracket, the actual tax owed might not be too painful. Just make sure to keep those 1099-INT forms for your records!

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Cedric Chung

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This is really helpful, thank you! I'm still wrapping my head around the "economic substance" concept. So even though both the bank bonus and credit card rewards are technically money coming back to me, the IRS cares more about WHY I'm getting the money rather than just the fact that I'm getting it? One follow-up question - what if I immediately withdrew the bank bonus after getting it and closed the account? Would that still be considered "allowing the bank to use my funds" if I only kept the minimum balance for like a week?

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I'm currently going through this exact same 5071C verification nightmare and it's beyond frustrating! Got my letter about 2 weeks ago and that 1-800-830-5084 number is completely unreachable - just immediate disconnects every single time, no matter when I call. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been both validating and incredibly helpful. I was making the classic mistake of just obsessively calling that broken verification line over and over. Now I'm implementing the multi-strategy approach that seems to actually work: 1) Continuing the 7am EST sharp calling strategy (set 4 alarms because I'm not a morning person!) 2) Successfully scheduled a TAC appointment for next Tuesday by calling 844-545-5640 around 2pm (took about 30 redials but finally got through) 3) Contacted TAS yesterday since I need my $1,650 refund for upcoming childcare expenses - they said they'd review my case within 3 business days The call logging tip from multiple people here has been a total game-changer for my mental health. At least I can see I'm making consistent progress instead of just feeling like I'm screaming into the void. It's absolutely insane that we all have to become amateur IRS strategists just to verify our own identities and get our legitimate refunds. This system is clearly broken when dozens of us are sharing identical horror stories about the same unreachable number. Thanks to everyone sharing real solutions that actually work - this community has been more helpful than the entire IRS phone system!

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Congrats on getting that TAC appointment scheduled, Oliver! That's a huge win after dealing with this broken system for 2 weeks. The fact that you got through to 844-545-5640 in about 30 redials actually gives me hope - that's way better odds than the verification line. Your childcare expense situation should definitely qualify for TAS assistance. From what I've been reading in this thread, they seem pretty understanding about legitimate financial hardships, especially when it involves essential expenses like childcare. One thing I'd suggest for your TAC appointment next Tuesday - bring absolutely everything you can think of. I've seen multiple people mention bringing the 5071C letter, photo ID, Social Security card, the actual tax return, W-2s, and any other supporting documents. It sounds like being over-prepared really helps get everything resolved in one visit. The 4 alarm strategy made me laugh - I'm definitely not a morning person either, but this whole situation has turned us all into reluctant early risers! Please update us after your appointment on Tuesday. Your success story could really help others who are still stuck in this bureaucratic nightmare. It's crazy that this community has become more useful than the actual IRS support system, but at least we're all helping each other navigate this mess!

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Ava Thompson

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I'm currently dealing with this exact same 5071C nightmare! Just got my letter yesterday and seeing all these experiences has been both terrifying and oddly reassuring - at least I know I'm not alone in this bureaucratic maze. After reading through everyone's strategies, I'm definitely not going to waste time just calling that verification number repeatedly like I was planning to do. Instead, I'm going to implement the multi-pronged approach that seems to actually work: 1) Try the 7am EST calling strategy (already set 3 alarms for tomorrow morning) 2) Call 844-545-5640 this afternoon around 2-3pm to schedule a TAC appointment 3) Start documenting everything in a call log to maintain my sanity 4) Consider TAS if I can't get resolution soon since I need my $1,400 refund for rent It's absolutely ridiculous that we all have to become IRS navigation experts just to get our own legitimate refunds, but I'm grateful this community exists to share real solutions. The fact that so many people are dealing with the identical problem of that unreachable verification number really shows this is a systemic failure, not just individual bad luck. Thanks to everyone who's shared their experiences and strategies here - you've probably saved me weeks of frustration by learning from your trials and errors. I'll definitely update on my progress as I work through these steps. We shouldn't have to fight this hard just to prove we are who we say we are!

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KylieRose

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Welcome to the 5071C support group, Ava! I'm sorry you're joining our ranks, but you're absolutely taking the right approach by learning from everyone's experiences here instead of banging your head against that verification phone line for weeks like most of us did initially. Your multi-strategy plan looks perfect - you're already ahead of where most of us were when we started this journey. The 7am calling strategy does work for some people, but having that TAC appointment as backup is crucial. When you call 844-545-5640 this afternoon, be prepared for some redials but it's definitely more manageable than the verification line. The rent situation should absolutely qualify you for TAS assistance if the other methods don't work quickly enough. Housing expenses are exactly the kind of "significant hardship" they're designed to help with. One tip since you're just starting - when you do get your TAC appointment scheduled, start gathering all your documents now: the 5071C letter, photo ID, Social Security card, your tax return, W-2s, and anything else tax-related. Being over-prepared really seems to help get everything resolved in one visit. The call log has been a lifesaver for all of our mental health - it really helps to see your efforts on paper instead of just feeling helpless. Keep us updated on your progress! This community has become an amazing resource for navigating this broken system.

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