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Aaron Boston

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Your dad's situation is definitely fixable, but time is critical here. I agree with the advice to apply for Social Security immediately - don't wait for the tax situation to be resolved first. The SSA can work with his earnings record that employers have been reporting all these years. For the tax side, start by requesting wage and income transcripts from the IRS for all the unfiled years. You can do this online at irs.gov or by calling them (though as others mentioned, getting through can be challenging). These transcripts will show what income was reported by his employers and any taxes withheld. Since he had taxes withheld from his paychecks, he likely doesn't owe anything and may even be due refunds for some years. The key is getting those last 6 years filed to bring him into compliance. Given the complexity and the urgency with his health situation, I'd strongly recommend working with a tax professional who has experience with unfiled returns - they can streamline the process and help avoid costly mistakes. The most important thing is to take action now rather than letting this drag on any longer. Both his Social Security benefits and potential tax refunds are time-sensitive.

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This is excellent comprehensive advice! I just want to emphasize one point about the wage and income transcripts - when you request these from the IRS, make sure to get them for ALL the unfiled years, not just the recent ones. Even though your dad may only need to file the last 6 years to be current, having the full picture of his income history will help identify any years where he might be owed refunds. Also, when working with a tax professional, look for someone who specifically advertises experience with "unfiled returns" or "delinquent taxes" rather than just general tax prep. These specialists understand the IRS procedures for catching up on multiple years and can often negotiate better outcomes if any issues arise. The urgency around Social Security cannot be overstated - every month that passes is potentially money lost forever due to the retroactive limits.

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I went through almost the exact same situation with my father-in-law two years ago. He hadn't filed in about 18 years and was panicking about Social Security eligibility. Here's what we learned that might help: First, definitely start the Social Security application ASAP as others have mentioned - the earnings record from employers is what matters most for benefits, not tax filings. We were amazed to discover his full work history was already in their system from employer reporting. For the IRS side, we found out that since taxes were withheld from his paychecks the whole time, he actually qualified for what's called "substitute for return" status for many years where the IRS basically filed simplified returns on his behalf. This meant he wasn't in as much trouble as we feared. The real breakthrough came when we got his wage and income transcripts for all the missing years. It showed that for 4 of the years, he was actually owed refunds totaling over $3,200 (though we could only claim the ones from the last 3 years). We ended up only needing to file the last 6 years to get him current, and the whole process took about 3 months working with a tax professional who specialized in unfiled returns. The key was getting started immediately - don't let fear of the IRS paralyze you into waiting longer. Your dad's health situation makes this urgent, but it's absolutely manageable. The government actually wants people to get caught up and claim their benefits!

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This is incredibly reassuring to hear from someone who's been through the exact same situation! The "substitute for return" status is something I hadn't heard of before - that could be a huge relief for my dad's situation. Can you tell me more about how you found the tax professional who specialized in unfiled returns? Did you just search online or get a referral? And roughly what did the whole process cost? I'm trying to budget for this since we need to move quickly but also want to make sure we're working with someone reputable. Also, when you say it took 3 months total, was that 3 months of active work or mostly waiting for the IRS to process things? I'm trying to set realistic expectations for my dad about the timeline.

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CosmicCadet

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I've been struggling with this exact issue for my tax preparation. I have three rental properties that I actively manage (tenant screening, minor repairs, property showings) and was completely confused about whether this "active" management meant I should use Schedule C. Based on the discussion here, it's clear that Schedule E is the right choice for my situation since I'm managing my own investments, not providing services to other property owners. The clarification about avoiding self-employment tax while still being able to deduct all legitimate expenses is huge - I had no idea I was potentially overpaying taxes by considering Schedule C. One follow-up question: I sometimes hire contractors for bigger repairs on my properties. Should I be issuing 1099s to contractors who do work on my Schedule E rental properties, or is that only required for Schedule C business activities? I paid my handyman about $3,200 last year and want to make sure I'm handling the reporting correctly. Also, @Emily Parker, your point about QBI deduction eligibility is something I hadn't considered at all. I'll definitely need to look into whether my rental income qualifies - that 20% deduction could be substantial on my rental profits.

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Yes, you absolutely need to issue 1099-NEC forms to contractors who performed work on your rental properties if you paid them $600 or more during the tax year. This requirement applies to Schedule E rental activities, not just Schedule C businesses. Since you paid your handyman $3,200, you should have issued a 1099-NEC by January 31st (the deadline just passed). The IRS requires 1099s for any non-employee compensation, including contractors working on rental properties. Make sure you have their W-9 form on file with their correct SSN or EIN. If you haven't issued it yet, you should do so immediately and may face penalties, though they're usually minimal for first-time late filings. For the QBI deduction that @Emily Parker mentioned - rental activities can qualify, but there are specific requirements. Your rental activity needs to rise to the level of a trade "or business under" Section 162, which generally means regular and continuous activity. Since you re'actively managing three properties with tenant screening and repairs, you might qualify. The deduction can be up to 20% of your qualified business income, subject to income limitations and other complex rules.

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This is exactly the kind of confusion I had when I first started with rental properties! The key distinction that helped me understand it was thinking about WHO you're providing services to. If you're managing your own rental properties (even very actively with repairs, tenant screening, marketing vacancies, etc.), you're managing your own investments - that's Schedule E. The income isn't subject to self-employment tax, and you can deduct all ordinary and necessary rental expenses. Schedule C would only come into play if you were providing property management services to OTHER people's properties as a business, or if you were a real estate dealer (buying/selling frequently rather than holding for rental income). One thing I learned the hard way - make sure you're tracking your expenses properly on Schedule E. You can deduct a lot more than you might think: advertising for tenants, legal fees, travel to properties, even a portion of your home office if you use it exclusively for managing your rentals. Just keep good records and receipts for everything. The material participation rules that you mentioned are more about passive activity loss limitations - they don't change whether you use Schedule C vs E. Even if you don't materially participate, rental income still goes on Schedule E (it just might be subject to different loss limitation rules).

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This is such a clear way to think about it - the "who are you providing services to" distinction really helps! I was getting caught up in thinking that because I spend so much time on property management tasks, it must be a "business" activity. But you're right, managing my own investments is fundamentally different from managing other people's properties as a service. Your point about tracking expenses is really important too. I've probably been missing out on deductions because I wasn't sure what was legitimate on Schedule E. The home office deduction is particularly interesting - I do use part of my spare bedroom exclusively for rental property paperwork and tenant communications. Do you know if there are specific requirements for claiming that, like it has to be used ONLY for rental activities? Also, thanks for clarifying the material participation rules. I kept seeing that term thrown around and thought it determined which form to use, but now I understand it's more about loss limitations. That takes away a lot of the confusion I was having!

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Maya Lewis

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I'm a former banking operations specialist, and there may be some additional factors at play here. Chase, like most large banks, typically processes ACH transfers in batches, usually around 2-3 times per day. If the IRS transmission occurred after the final batch on 3/19, it would likely be processed the following business day. Additionally, there could possibly be a security hold if this is a new account, if the amount is significantly larger than previous deposits, or if there have been recent account changes. These holds are generally 2-3 business days but can extend to 5 business days in some circumstances.

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Lucy Taylor

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Let me clarify the process when you call Chase about a missing tax refund: 1. Call the direct deposit department (not general customer service) 2. Provide your mother-in-law's account information 3. Ask specifically about pending ACH transfers from the Treasury 4. Request information about any security holds 5. If it's been more than 3 business days, request escalation to a supervisor 6. Document the call with representative name, time, and case number if provided

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Chris Ralph

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@Lucy Taylor how does one get in touch with direct deposit dept

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Malik Johnson

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I'm dealing with this exact same situation right now! My DDD was 3/19 with Chase and I'm still waiting too. After reading all these responses, I called Chase this morning using the advice from @Lucy Taylor about calling the direct deposit department specifically. The rep told me they can see a "processing deposit" from the Treasury that should post within 24-48 hours. She said it's been in their system since 3/20 but got flagged for their standard tax refund verification process. Apparently this is happening to a lot of Chase customers with DDDs from 3/19. Really frustrating that they don't show these as pending in online banking! I'll update once it hits my account.

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Ethan Brown

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This is really helpful information! Thanks for actually calling and sharing what you found out. It's so frustrating that Chase doesn't show these "processing deposits" in online banking - makes us all think something went wrong when really they're just holding it for their verification process. I'm in the same boat with a 3/19 DDD and Chase, so I'm going to call them today using the same approach you did. Really appreciate you taking the time to update us with what the rep told you. Hopefully we'll all see our refunds hit within the next day or two!

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Chris Ralph

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@Ethan Brown what s'the direct deposit dept #

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Kevin Bell

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I'm fairly new to business ownership myself and this whole discussion has been incredibly helpful! I had a similar misconception about using loans to reduce taxable income - it seemed like such an obvious strategy that I was surprised more people weren't talking about it. Now I understand why - because it doesn't actually work that way! The distinction between loan proceeds (not taxable) and loan payments (not deductible) versus actual business expenses (potentially deductible) is really important. What's been most valuable for me is learning about the legitimate ways to use financing strategically. The Section 179 deduction for equipment purchases sounds like something I should definitely research more. I've been bootstrapping everything so far, but it sounds like there might be real advantages to financing certain business investments rather than paying cash, especially if it helps with cash flow while still providing tax benefits. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences with the various tax services and tools too. As someone who's been trying to handle everything myself, it's clear I probably need some professional guidance to make sure I'm not missing opportunities or making costly mistakes.

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You're absolutely right about the Section 179 deduction being worth researching! I made the same mistake early on of trying to pay cash for everything thinking it was "smarter," but strategic financing can actually be better for both cash flow and taxes. One thing I wish I'd understood sooner is that Section 179 lets you deduct the full cost of qualifying equipment in the year you purchase it (up to certain limits), rather than depreciating it over several years. So if you buy a $20k piece of equipment, you can potentially deduct the entire amount this year instead of spreading it out. That can make a huge difference in your current tax bill. The key is making sure you're buying things your business actually needs, not just spending money for tax purposes. But if you were planning those purchases anyway, the timing can really matter for maximizing your deductions. Definitely worth getting professional advice to make sure you understand all the rules and limits!

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LilMama23

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This is such a great discussion! As someone who made similar mistakes early in my business journey, I wanted to add a few practical points that might help other newcomers. The loan repayment vs. business expense distinction really clicked for me when my accountant explained it this way: imagine you had $65k in cash sitting in your business account from profits. Whether you use that cash to pay off a loan, buy a car, or invest in equipment doesn't change the fact that you earned $65k in taxable profit. The IRS taxes the earning of income, not how you choose to spend it afterward. What's been game-changing for my business is learning to plan major purchases around tax strategy. Instead of buying equipment when I "feel like I have extra money," I now time purchases strategically - sometimes using financing even when I could pay cash, specifically to preserve working capital while still getting the immediate tax deductions. One mistake I see a lot of new business owners make is thinking they need to spend money at year-end just for tax purposes. But the best approach is identifying what your business actually needs over the next 1-2 years, then timing those purchases and financing decisions to optimize both cash flow and tax benefits. The resources others have mentioned in this thread sound really helpful - it's clear that having good guidance makes a huge difference in avoiding costly misunderstandings about business taxes!

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This is such a common problem! I went through the exact same thing last year with employee stock awards. The key thing to remember is that when your employer gives you stock, they're required to report its fair market value as income on your W-2 at the time of grant. So you've already paid income tax on that amount. When you sell the stock later and get a 1099-B, the brokerage often shows $0 cost basis because they don't have access to your employment records. But your actual cost basis should be whatever amount was already taxed as income on your W-2. So in your case, if your pay stub showed $450 in stock compensation that was already taxed, that's your cost basis. You'd only owe capital gains tax on the $150 difference ($600 proceeds - $450 basis). Make sure to adjust this in your tax software or you'll end up paying tax twice on the same $450! Keep good records of when you received the stock and what value was reported as income - you'll need this for future reference.

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Justin Chang

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This is exactly what happened to me! I was so confused when I first saw that 1099-B with zero cost basis. I almost filed it that way and would have overpaid by hundreds of dollars. It's crazy that the brokerage firms don't have a better way to communicate with employers about this stuff. One thing I learned is to also keep screenshots or copies of your vesting schedules if your company uses an online portal. Sometimes the values on your pay stub might be slightly different from what the stock was actually worth on the exact vesting date due to timing differences, and having that backup documentation helped me feel more confident about the numbers I was using. Thanks for breaking this down so clearly - this thread is going to save a lot of people from making expensive mistakes!

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Great advice in this thread! I just wanted to add that if you're dealing with ESPP (Employee Stock Purchase Plan) shares, the situation can be even more complex. With ESPP, part of the discount you received when purchasing the shares might be treated as compensation income (reported on your W-2), while the rest is treated as capital gains when you sell. For example, if your company offered a 15% discount on stock through ESPP, that discount amount should have been included as taxable income on your W-2 when you sold the shares. Your cost basis would then be the actual price you paid plus any amount that was reported as compensation income. The key is always to check your W-2 and pay stubs for any stock-related compensation that's already been taxed. Don't let the 1099-B fool you into thinking your cost basis is zero - that almost never reflects the true tax situation for employee stock benefits!

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