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I'm struggling with figuring out the adjusted basis calculation on my Schedule K-1 (1065). Using tax software has been mostly fine for the straightforward parts - I can handle inputting different box numbers. But I'm totally confused when it comes to the adjusted basis calculation, which apparently determines how much I can deduct. My situation is pretty simple: I work full-time (40hrs/week) at a small LLC that gave me a small percentage partnership interest as a performance bonus last year. The K-1 is super basic with only a few boxes filled in (Boxes 1, 14, and 18). We've been operating at a loss since the company started, so no distributions to worry about. Two main questions: 1) Since I'm a direct employee working full-time, am I considered an "active participant"? But I think I'm "NOT at-risk" because I don't lose anything if the company fails (Item K liabilities = 0). Do I even need to calculate adjusted basis? 2) For the adjusted basis calculation, all I have is Item L (Partner's Capital Account Analysis). Last year's Ending Capital Account was around -$1,300. Tax software requires a non-zero starting adjusted basis - do I just put 0 since last year's ending was negative? This year's Item L shows: Beginning capital: ~ -$4,100 Decrease: ~ -$3,800 Ending: ~ -$7,900 I think the decrease for adjusted basis would be -$3,800, but then I looked at the worksheet on the IRS website (https://www.irs.gov/instructions/i1065sk1/ch01.html) which says adjusted basis less than zero is 0? I'm completely lost at this point.
For your Schedule K-1 (1065) adjusted basis, I think you're getting confused between capital account and outside basis. They're different things! Your capital account can go negative (as yours has) but your basis can never go below zero. Since you got your interest as a bonus, your initial basis was probably the value included in your income. If that was zero, then your starting basis was zero. Since your basis starts at zero, you can't deduct any of the partnership losses now. They get suspended and carry forward until you get more basis (either by contributing money/property to the LLC or by the LLC generating income that's allocated to you). For the tax software, you're correct to enter zero as your starting basis if it was already zero last year. Make sure you track your suspended losses somewhere though - those are important for future years!
Thanks for explaining the difference between capital account and outside basis! That clears up a lot. So even though my capital account shows -$7,900 at the end of this year, my outside basis is still just zero? Do I need to file any special forms to track these suspended losses or is it just something I need to remember for next year?
Exactly right - your capital account can show -$7,900, but your outside basis remains at zero (it can't go negative). The difference between those numbers represents your suspended losses. There's no specific IRS form for tracking suspended losses - it's just something you need to maintain in your personal records. I recommend creating a simple spreadsheet that shows: 1) Your beginning basis each year 2) Increases to basis (contributions, income items) 3) Decreases to basis (distributions, loss items) 4) Ending basis 5) Cumulative suspended losses When you file next year, you'll need this information to know how much of any losses you can claim. If the partnership becomes profitable, those profits will increase your basis and allow you to start using those suspended losses.
Dealing with Schedule K-1 (1065) adjusted basis calculations can be a nightmare! I'm a partner in 3 different LLCs and finally figured out how to handle negative capital accounts. The key thing to understand: your adjusted basis and your capital account are calculated differently. Your capital account can go negative, but your tax basis cannot. When you receive a partnership interest as compensation (like you did), your initial basis equals the amount included in your income. If you didn't include any amount in income, your initial basis was zero. With a starting basis of zero and no additional contributions, you can't claim any of the $3,800 loss this year. But those losses aren't gone! They're suspended and can be used in future years when you have basis. For tax software, enter zero as your beginning basis, then show your share of loss, but the software should limit your loss deduction to zero.
Are you sure about the suspended losses carrying forward indefinitely? I thought they expired after a certain number of years like net operating losses do. Can anyone confirm this?
Yes, suspended losses from partnerships do carry forward indefinitely - they don't expire like NOLs used to. The losses remain suspended until you have sufficient basis to absorb them, which could happen through capital contributions, your share of partnership income, or increases in partnership liabilities that affect your basis. This is different from the old NOL rules that had expiration periods. Partnership losses under the passive activity rules or basis limitations just sit there waiting for you to have enough basis or passive income to use them. I've had suspended losses from one of my partnerships for over 8 years now, still carrying them forward each year on my tracking spreadsheet. @Aaliyah Reed is absolutely right about keeping good records though - the IRS doesn t'track these for you, so you need to maintain your own basis calculations year over year.
Another common mistake I see with ESPP calculations is forgetting about commission fees. When calculating your total gain/loss, don't forget to factor in any fees you paid when selling the shares. For example, if you sold at $250 but paid a $5 commission, your actual proceeds would be $245. This affects both your ordinary income calculation (since it's based partly on actual proceeds) and your capital gain calculation.
This is partly correct but needs clarification. Commission fees paid when SELLING shares reduce your sales proceeds (as you mentioned), but commission fees paid when BUYING the shares increase your cost basis. Many ESPP programs don't charge commissions for purchase, but if yours does, don't forget to add that to your basis.
Great discussion here! I wanted to add a few points that might help others dealing with ESPP calculations: 1. **Record keeping is crucial** - Create a detailed spreadsheet for each purchase lot that includes offering date, purchase date, FMV on both dates, purchase price, sale date, sale price, and all fees. This will save you hours during tax season. 2. **Watch out for same-day sales** - If you sell ESPP shares on the same day you purchase them, the tax treatment can be different. The entire discount may be treated as ordinary income rather than going through the qualifying/disqualifying disposition analysis. 3. **State tax considerations** - Don't forget that your state may have different rules for ESPP taxation. Some states don't recognize the federal preferential treatment for qualifying dispositions. 4. **Multiple brokers** - If your company switched brokers during the year, make sure you're getting all the necessary 1099-B forms. I've seen people miss reporting sales because they forgot about shares held at a previous broker. The original calculation looks mostly correct once you use the purchase date FMV for the discount calculation as Jean Claude pointed out. Just double-check that you're accounting for all fees and that your company isn't already reporting any of this on your W-2.
This is incredibly helpful, especially the point about same-day sales! I didn't realize that could change the tax treatment completely. Quick question about record keeping - do you recommend using any specific software or template for tracking all these details? I've been using a basic Excel spreadsheet but I'm wondering if there's a better way to organize everything, especially when you have multiple purchase lots throughout the year. Also, regarding state taxes - is there an easy way to find out if your state follows federal ESPP rules or has its own requirements? I'm in California and want to make sure I'm not missing anything on the state return.
@Melissa Lin Great questions! For record keeping, I ve'found that a well-structured Excel template works perfectly fine - you don t'need expensive software. I create columns for: Purchase Date, Offering Date, Shares Purchased, FMV Offering Date, FMV Purchase Date, Purchase Price per Share, Discount Amount, Sale Date, Sale Price per Share, Sale Fees, Ordinary Income, and Capital Gain/Loss. The key is being consistent with your data entry. Regarding California - you re'actually in luck! California generally follows federal tax treatment for ESPPs, so qualifying dispositions get the same preferential treatment at the state level. However, California has a few quirks with stock compensation, so I d'recommend checking FTB Publication 1004 or consulting with a California tax professional if you have complex situations. One additional tip for California residents - make sure you re'properly reporting any income from RSUs or other equity compensation on Schedule CA, as California sometimes requires additional reporting even when it follows federal rules.
One thing to be aware of with McDonald's franchises that affects your taxes - McDonald's typically owns or controls the real estate and leases it to you as the franchisee. This is different from some other franchise systems. The lease payments are tax-deductible business expenses, but it also means you're not building equity in the real estate (which can be a major asset).
This is such an important point that people overlook! My brother owns 3 Subway franchises and the real estate aspect makes a huge difference in long-term wealth building. Does anyone know if McDonald's ever allows franchisees to purchase the property?
Great question! I work in tax preparation and see this confusion a lot with new franchise owners. Each McDonald's franchise is indeed a separate business entity that files its own tax returns - you're not part of McDonald's corporate tax return at all. When you buy a McDonald's franchise, you're purchasing the right to operate under their brand and systems, but you're running your own independent business. You'll typically form an LLC or corporation, get your own EIN, and file separate tax returns. The royalty fees you pay to McDonald's corporate (currently around 4% of gross sales) are just business expenses you deduct on your return. One key thing to consider early - many multi-unit franchise owners I work with wish they had structured their business entities better from the start. If you're planning to eventually own multiple locations, talk to a CPA about whether to set up separate entities for each location or use a holding company structure. It can save you headaches and money down the road. Also worth noting that franchise tax situations can get complex with things like equipment depreciation, building improvements, and the real estate lease arrangements that McDonald's typically uses. Definitely budget for a good accountant who understands franchise businesses - they'll more than pay for themselves in tax savings and compliance.
Thanks for this detailed breakdown! As someone just starting to research franchise opportunities, this is really helpful. Quick question - you mentioned budgeting for a good accountant who understands franchise businesses. How do I find one? Should I look for specific certifications or experience markers when vetting accountants? And roughly what should I expect to pay annually for professional tax prep and advice for a single McDonald's location?
One other tip from another F1 student: for state residency in FreeTaxUSA, after selecting "non-resident," make sure you're only reporting income that was earned in that specific state. The software should limit taxation to state-source income, but sometimes you need to verify this manually. In my case, I had a summer internship in a different state from where my university is located. Had to file as a non-resident in both states, but only report the income earned in each respective state.
That's helpful - I did have a paid campus job at my university in Massachusetts, but I also did some freelance work online for a company based in California. Should I be filing in both states then?
Yes, you'll likely need to file in both Massachusetts and California. For Massachusetts, report only your campus job income. For California, you'll need to determine if your freelance work counts as California-source income (it often does if the company is based there, even if you performed the work in Massachusetts). FreeTaxUSA can handle multi-state returns, but you'll need to be careful about allocating the income correctly. And select "non-resident" for both states since you're an F1 student in your first five years in the US.
As someone who went through this exact same confusion last year, I completely understand your frustration! The lack of clear guidance for international students in tax software is really frustrating. Based on what others have shared and my own experience, you should definitely select "non-resident" for Massachusetts. Since you're on an F1 visa and have only been in the US for 15 months, you're considered a non-resident alien for federal tax purposes, and Massachusetts generally follows that determination. One thing I learned the hard way is to double-check that FreeTaxUSA is only taxing your Massachusetts-source income (like your campus job) and not trying to tax any income from other sources. The software should handle this automatically when you select non-resident, but it's worth verifying. Also, don't forget about Form 8843 that someone mentioned - it's required for F1 students even if you don't owe any taxes. FreeTaxUSA can help you prepare it, but you have to look for it specifically in the foreign income section. Good luck with your filing! The first year is definitely the most confusing, but it gets easier once you understand your status.
Luca Marino
This is exactly the kind of breakdown I needed! I've been putting off starting my consulting business because the tax situation seemed so overwhelming, but seeing the actual numbers makes it much more manageable. One thing I'm still confused about - if someone has both W-2 income and self-employment income in the same year, how does that affect these calculations? Does the self-employment tax still only apply to the business income, or does having W-2 income change the brackets you fall into for the income tax portion? I'm considering leaving my day job mid-year to go full-time freelance, so I'd have both types of income for 2025. Trying to figure out if that makes the tax situation more complicated or if it's basically just adding the two income streams together.
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Connor O'Brien
ā¢Great question about mixed income! Having both W-2 and self-employment income actually works pretty straightforwardly: The self-employment tax (15.3%) only applies to your net business income, never your W-2 wages. So if you made $50k from your day job and $30k net from freelancing, you'd only pay SE tax on that $30k. For income tax purposes, you just add both income sources together to determine your total AGI and tax bracket. Your W-2 wages plus net business income minus the standard deduction (and half your SE tax) gives you your taxable income. One nice thing about having W-2 income is that your employer already withholds taxes on that portion, so you may need to make smaller estimated quarterly payments on just the business income. Just make sure the combination of your W-2 withholding plus estimated payments covers your total expected tax liability. The timing of leaving your day job mid-year actually works in your favor for planning - you'll have several months of withholding from your employer to help cover your total tax bill!
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Wesley Hallow
This thread has been incredibly educational! As someone who's been freelancing for about 6 months now, I was doing the classic mistake of thinking I'd owe 37%+ on everything. One thing that's really helping me is keeping detailed records throughout the year. I use a simple spreadsheet to track income, expenses, and set aside that 25-30% mentioned earlier. But I also track things like: - Mileage for business trips - Home office expenses (utilities, internet, etc.) - Professional development courses - Business meals (50% deductible) - Equipment purchases The QBI deduction alone has been huge for me - I didn't even know it existed until my accountant mentioned it last year. For anyone just starting out, definitely look into that 20% deduction on qualified business income. It can make a significant difference in your final tax bill. Also, don't sleep on retirement contributions! SEP-IRAs and Solo 401(k)s let self-employed people contribute way more than traditional employees can, which further reduces your taxable income. I'm contributing about 15% of my net business income to a SEP-IRA, which knocks my taxable income down even more.
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Tobias Lancaster
ā¢This is such great advice about record keeping! I'm just starting my freelance journey and honestly hadn't thought about tracking mileage or home office expenses properly. Do you have any recommendations for apps or tools that make this easier, or is a simple spreadsheet really the way to go? Also, I'm curious about the SEP-IRA - is there a minimum income requirement to set one up? I'm probably only going to make around $25k-30k in my first year of self-employment, so I want to make sure it's worth setting up retirement accounts at that income level. The home office deduction is something I've been nervous about because I've heard it can trigger audits. Have you had any issues with that, or is it pretty straightforward as long as you have good documentation?
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