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This is really helpful information everyone! I've been using Payoneer for my freelance work too and had no idea about the $600 threshold change. One thing I'm still unclear on - when the 1099-K gets issued, does it show the gross payment amounts or the net amounts after Payoneer's fees? For example, if a client sends me $1000 but Payoneer takes a $30 fee, does the 1099-K show $1000 or $970? This could make a difference in how I track my actual income versus what gets reported to the IRS. Also, does anyone know if there's a way to see a preview of what will be on your 1099-K before it gets issued? I'd love to reconcile my records ahead of time rather than being surprised when tax season comes around.

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Drake

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Great questions! The 1099-K typically reports the gross payment amounts before fees, so in your example it would show $1000 rather than $970. This is because the form is meant to capture the total payments processed, not what you actually received after fees. However, you can deduct Payoneer's processing fees as business expenses on your tax return, so you won't be taxed on money you never actually received. Just make sure to keep good records of all the fees paid throughout the year. As for previewing your 1099-K, most payment processors including Payoneer usually make these available in your account dashboard sometime in January before they mail the physical forms. You should be able to log into your Payoneer account and look for a "Tax Documents" or "1099-K" section once they're generated. This definitely helps with reconciling your records ahead of time!

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Thanks for all the detailed information everyone! As someone who's been using Payoneer for international freelance work, this thread has been incredibly helpful in understanding the new reporting requirements. One thing I want to emphasize for anyone just reading this - even though the 1099-K reporting might seem scary at first, it's actually not changing your fundamental tax obligations. If you've been properly reporting your worldwide income (like the original poster mentioned they were doing), you're already on the right track. The key is just making sure your records are detailed enough to explain any discrepancies between what Payoneer reports and your actual taxable income. Keep documentation for things like personal transfers, expense reimbursements, and any non-income transactions that might inflate the 1099-K amount. I'd also recommend reaching out to Payoneer directly (or using one of the services mentioned here if you can't get through) to understand exactly what they're including in your 1099-K before tax season hits. Better to sort out any confusion now than to scramble in April!

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This is such solid advice! I'm new to freelancing and just started using Payoneer this year, so all of this 1099-K information is completely new to me. I had no idea about the $600 threshold or that they report to the IRS now. Your point about documentation is really important - I've been pretty casual about tracking my transactions, but it sounds like I need to be much more organized going forward. Do you have any recommendations for what specific records I should be keeping? Like, is it enough to just save the Payoneer transaction history, or should I be tracking additional details about each payment? Also, I'm curious - for someone who's just starting out and might not hit the $600 threshold this year, should I still be preparing for this reporting in future years? Better to set up good habits now I guess!

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Revocable Trust owns LLC that runs Amazon FBA business - Should income go on 1040 Schedule C or 1065?

I need some guidance from people who've dealt with this particular tax structure before. My wife and I are the grantors and co-trustees of a Revocable Trust that we set up last year. The Trust completely owns an LLC which runs our Amazon FBA business selling handmade jewelry. We live in Georgia (not a community property state) and we haven't made any special tax elections for the LLC. I'm trying to figure out how to properly report the business income from this arrangement. The way I see it, the LLC is a Single-Member LLC owned by the Trust, which makes it a disregarded entity for tax purposes. And since our Revocable Trust is a grantor trust (also disregarded), it seems like my wife and I should report the income on our personal tax return. But here's where I'm confused: 1. Should we report the business income on our 1040 using Schedule C, or do we need to file a Form 1065 partnership return? 2. If we use Schedule C, should we file two separate ones (one for each of us) or just one? I've researched this and understand that: - The LLC is a SMLLC owned by the Trust (disregarded entity) - Our Revocable Trust is a grantor trust (also disregarded) - An LLC owned by spouses in a non-community property state typically files Form 1065 - But since the LLC is owned by the Trust and not directly by us, maybe it's still just a SMLLC disregarded entity Anyone have experience with this specific setup? Appreciate any insights from knowledgeable folks.

One thing nobody's mentioned yet - what's the actual benefit you're trying to achieve with this structure? If it's just liability protection, there might be simpler ways to structure this. I had a Revocable Trust -> LLC structure for my business initially, and it was a huge headache for taxes. I ended up restructuring to simplify things. If it's for estate planning, have you considered whether a SMLLC owned by one spouse (with appropriate estate planning) might achieve your goals with less complexity? Or potentially an irrevocable trust structure if you're looking for asset protection?

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Evelyn Kim

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The main reason we set it up this way was for probate avoidance and simplified transfer if something happens to either of us. We have young kids and wanted to make sure the business could continue operating smoothly if either of us passed away unexpectedly. We did consider having just one of us own the LLC, but since we both actively work in the business, we wanted the structure to reflect our actual roles. The revocable trust seemed like a good solution for keeping everything under one umbrella, but I'm definitely open to simplifying if this creates unnecessary tax complexity.

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That makes sense for probate avoidance, but you might be overcomplicating things. A revocable trust can own business interests directly without needing the LLC layer in between if you're mainly concerned about probate. If you want liability protection AND probate avoidance, you might consider having the LLC owned directly by you and your wife (as joint tenants with right of survivorship or as tenants by the entirety if Georgia allows it), then creating transfer on death provisions in your operating agreement that specify how ownership transfers. This would still provide liability protection while simplifying the tax structure. For business continuity with minor children, you could include specific succession planning provisions in your operating agreement and potentially use life insurance held in an irrevocable trust to provide liquidity. I'd recommend consulting with an estate planning attorney who specializes in business succession planning - they might be able to suggest a cleaner structure that accomplishes your goals without creating tax filing complexity.

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Levi Parker

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Based on everything discussed here, it seems pretty clear that you'll need to file Form 1065 for your LLC. The consensus from multiple experienced folks is that the IRS will look through both disregarded entities (your revocable trust and the SMLLC) and see two ultimate beneficial owners in a non-community property state. I'd suggest getting this confirmed officially before filing, especially since you mentioned this is your first year with this structure. The penalty risks for filing incorrectly on partnership returns can be significant. Also, for next year's planning, you might want to evaluate whether this structure is still serving your needs. From what you've described about wanting probate avoidance and business continuity, there might be simpler ways to achieve those goals without the Form 1065 complexity. An estate planning attorney who works with business owners could probably show you some alternatives that accomplish the same objectives with cleaner tax reporting. Good luck with your filing - and congratulations on the successful Amazon FBA business!

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Nia Jackson

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This is really helpful - thank you for summarizing everything so clearly! As someone who's been lurking on tax forums trying to figure out similar issues, it's great to see such a thorough discussion with practical advice. One quick follow-up question for the group: if they do end up filing Form 1065, are there any specific things to watch out for in terms of how to allocate the income between the spouses on the K-1s? Since they're both actively working in the business, I assume it would be 50/50, but I'm wondering if there are any nuances with the trust ownership structure that might affect this. Also, @4d3a8e299772, have you considered whether you need to make quarterly estimated payments differently now that you're potentially moving from Schedule C to partnership taxation? The timing and calculation might be slightly different.

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Hannah White

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Has anyone used the IRS's Volunteer Income Tax Assistance (VITA) program for partnership returns? Their website says they help with "basic" tax returns, but I'm not sure if that includes small business partnerships.

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VITA volunteer here. Unfortunately, we specifically DON'T handle partnership returns (Form 1065) or any business returns except for very simple Schedule C's for sole proprietorships. Partnership returns are considered "out of scope" for VITA and TCE volunteers regardless of how simple they might be.

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As someone who's been through this exact situation, I can confirm you absolutely do NOT need to spend $159 on TurboTax Business! I was in a similar spot last year with my partner's LLC involvement. Here's what I learned: Yes, you can download the fillable Form 1065 and Schedule K-1 PDFs directly from IRS.gov and mail them in. The key things to watch for are making sure all the required sections are completed (even if they're zero amounts) and that your wife's K-1 properly reflects her 15% share of income, deductions, and credits. Since you mentioned the business is straightforward with profit distribution based on ownership percentages, you should be fine doing it manually. Just take your time with the balance sheet sections and make sure the numbers tie out. The IRS instructions for Form 1065 are actually pretty detailed if you need guidance on specific lines. One tip: Make copies of everything before mailing, and consider sending it certified mail for your records. Save yourself the $159 and put that money toward something more useful!

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Based on what everyone has shared here, it sounds like your ProSystems FX is handling this correctly. Since you properly reported the Section 751 gain as ordinary income in Box 1 of the K-1s with code AB in Box 20, that income should flow to Schedule E on the partners' individual returns - not Form 4797. The confusion often comes from thinking that Section 751 gains always need Form 4797 treatment, but that's not the case when the partnership has already done the characterization work at the entity level. Your attachment of the Section 751 statement to the 1065 satisfies the documentation requirement. One thing to double-check though - make sure there aren't any special rate gains hiding in the PTP transaction (like the collectibles or unrecaptured Section 1250 gains that Ian mentioned). These would show up with different codes and need separate treatment on the individual returns. But for straight Section 751 ordinary income, Schedule E is correct.

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Avery Davis

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm fairly new to handling partnership returns and Section 751 issues, and I was getting overwhelmed by all the different rules. It's reassuring to hear that when the partnership does the heavy lifting upfront (characterizing the gain as ordinary income in Box 1 with code AB), the individual return treatment is actually straightforward - just let it flow to Schedule E. The point about checking for special rate gains is something I hadn't considered. I'll definitely review the K-1 footnotes more carefully on future PTP transactions. Thanks everyone for sharing your expertise!

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Zoe Wang

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Just wanted to add my experience as someone who's dealt with several PTP Section 751 situations - the reporting can get tricky when you have multiple PTPs with different types of gains. One thing I've learned is to always request the detailed Section 751 calculation from the partnership if it's not clearly attached to the return. Sometimes partnerships will just put the final number in Box 1 without showing the breakdown of which assets triggered the ordinary income treatment. This becomes important if you're preparing returns for partners who have other capital losses they're trying to offset - they need to understand that the Section 751 portion can't be used to offset those losses since it's characterized as ordinary income. Also, for future reference, if you ever encounter a situation where the partnership didn't properly identify Section 751 property, the individual partners would need to make the adjustment themselves using Form 4797. But from your description, it sounds like your partnership did everything correctly. ProSystems FX can be frustrating with the lack of clear tagging, but as long as the income flows to Schedule E and you've verified the partnership's Section 751 calculation, you should be in good shape.

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This is really valuable insight about requesting the detailed Section 751 calculation! I hadn't thought about the importance of having that breakdown, especially for partners with capital losses. That's a great point about ordinary income not being able to offset capital losses - I can see how that could create issues if partners don't understand the characterization. Your point about partnerships not properly identifying Section 751 property is also concerning. How would I even know if a partnership missed something in their calculation? Are there red flags to look for when reviewing the K-1s and attached statements?

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I've been dealing with ITIN employees for about two years now in my construction business, and I wanted to share a few practical tips that might help other employers: First, always keep detailed records of the work authorization documents you verify during the I-9 process. This is separate from the tax ID issue but equally important. Some of my ITIN employees had employment authorization documents that were temporary, so I had to track renewal dates. Second, double-check that your business insurance and workers' compensation policies don't have any special requirements for employees with ITINs. Most don't, but it's worth confirming with your insurance agent. Finally, if you use a payroll service, make sure they're experienced with ITINs before you hire the employee. I had one service that kept "correcting" the ITIN back to look like an SSN, which created problems with our filings. Now I always test the system with a sample ITIN before processing actual payroll. The good news is that once you get the systems set up properly, it's really no different from processing any other employee's taxes. The IRS treats the income reporting exactly the same way.

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This is really helpful advice! I'm just getting started with my first ITIN employee and the insurance angle is something I hadn't even thought about. Quick question - when you mention tracking renewal dates for employment authorization documents, do you have a system for staying on top of those? I'm worried I might miss an expiration date and end up in trouble. Also, did you run into any issues with direct deposit for employees with ITINs? Our bank asked some extra questions when I mentioned it, and I want to make sure I'm prepared if there are any special requirements.

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Great question about tracking renewal dates! I use a simple spreadsheet with columns for employee name, document type, issue date, and expiration date. I set up calendar reminders 90 days and 30 days before each expiration so I can give the employee plenty of notice to renew their authorization. Some document types like EADs (Employment Authorization Documents) are only valid for specific periods, so staying on top of this is crucial. For direct deposit with ITINs, I haven't had any major issues, but some banks do ask additional questions for compliance reasons. Make sure you have a copy of the employee's ITIN authorization letter from the IRS (CP 565) if they have one - this can help verify the legitimacy of the number. Most banks will process direct deposits normally once they understand you're following proper employment verification procedures. One tip: if your bank seems unfamiliar with ITINs, you might want to speak with a business banker rather than a regular teller. Business bankers typically have more experience with these situations and can set up the direct deposit without unnecessary delays.

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