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Had the same problem. Found out TurboTax creates a different PIN each year that you set during the filing process. For me the problem was I had entered my AGI wrong - I was looking at line 7 instead of line 11 on my 1040. Double-check that.
This! I made the exact same mistake. The form changed from 2020 to 2021 and the AGI moved to a different line. I was using the wrong number.
Glad to hear your return finally got accepted! I went through something similar last year and it's such a relief when it finally goes through. For anyone else dealing with this, I learned that the IRS verification system can be pretty finicky. One thing that helped me was creating a checklist: 1) Make sure you're using the AGI from line 11 of your 2021 Form 1040 (not any other line), 2) If you can't find or remember your self-selected PIN, stick with the AGI option entirely, and 3) If you're a first-time e-filer or had any issues with your previous return, the "0" AGI method often works as a backup. The most important thing I learned is to be patient with the system - sometimes it takes a day or two for acceptance even when everything is correct. Thanks for sharing your update, it'll definitely help others who are going through the same stress!
This is such helpful advice! I'm dealing with the exact same issue right now and have been pulling my hair out for the past week. Your checklist approach makes so much sense - I think I might have been mixing up the line numbers on my 1040. Just to clarify, when you say "stick with the AGI option entirely," do you mean there's a way to avoid the PIN prompt completely? My filing software keeps asking for both even when I select AGI verification. Is there a specific way to bypass that PIN field? Also, the patience part is so true. I've been refreshing my e-file status every few hours like a maniac, but sounds like I just need to give it more time to process.
I went through this exact same decision process about 6 months ago when I converted to S Corp status. After comparing several options, I ended up going with OnPay and have been really happy with it. The pricing is transparent - $40 base + $6 per employee, so $46/month total for just me. They handle all the federal filings (monthly deposits, quarterly 941s, annual W-2s) plus state unemployment automatically. Their interface isn't as flashy as Gusto but it's clean and gets the job done. What sold me was their customer support - I had questions about setting up my first payroll run and they walked me through everything over the phone. No waiting on hold for hours like some other services. One thing I learned: don't get too caught up in finding the absolute cheapest option. The difference between $35/month and $50/month is minimal compared to the potential cost of messing up your S Corp payroll compliance. Pick something reliable that automates all the tax filings and you'll sleep better at night. For what it's worth, I looked at Wave, Square Payroll, and Gusto before settling on OnPay. All would probably work fine, but OnPay hit the sweet spot of features, price, and support quality for my needs.
This is really helpful, thank you! OnPay sounds like it might be exactly what I'm looking for. The $46/month total cost seems reasonable and I like that they include the state unemployment filings automatically - that was one of my biggest concerns after reading about people getting tripped up on state requirements. Quick question about their setup process - did you need to have your EIN and state accounts already established before signing up, or do they help guide you through any of that initial setup? I'm still working through some of the administrative pieces of getting my S Corp fully operational. Also appreciate the point about not getting too caught up in finding the absolute cheapest option. You're right that the peace of mind and compliance protection is worth the extra $10-15/month compared to potentially missing something important and facing penalties.
I've been running my S Corp for about 2 years and went through this exact same research process when I started. After trying a couple different services, I ended up settling on Patriot Software and it's been great for my needs. Their pricing is really competitive - around $35/month for the base plan that handles all federal and state filings. What I love about them is they actually assign you a dedicated support person who knows your account, so when you call with questions you're not starting from scratch each time. The interface is straightforward - not the fanciest but very functional. They handle all the quarterly 941s, monthly tax deposits, W-2s, and state unemployment filings automatically. I get email confirmations for every filing so I always know what's been submitted. One thing that really helped me was they offer a free consultation call when you sign up to make sure you're setting everything up correctly for S Corp compliance. They helped me understand the reasonable compensation requirements and made sure my salary-to-distribution ratio made sense. For anyone just starting out with S Corp payroll, my advice is don't overthink it too much. Pick a reputable service that handles all the tax filings automatically and has good support. The time and stress you'll save is absolutely worth the monthly cost compared to trying to manage it yourself.
Thanks for mentioning Patriot Software! I hadn't come across them in my research yet, but $35/month sounds like exactly the price point I was hoping for. The dedicated support person feature sounds really valuable - I've had bad experiences with other services where you have to re-explain your situation every time you call. I'm definitely interested in that free consultation call you mentioned. As someone new to S Corp requirements, having an expert review my setup would give me a lot more confidence that I'm doing things correctly from the start. Did they provide any documentation or recommendations during your consultation that you found particularly helpful? Also curious about their state coverage - do you happen to know if they handle all states for the unemployment filings, or are there some limitations like with other services?
I actually called my state's tax department about this exact question last month. Depending on your state, many offer what's called a "manufacturer's exemption" that applies to small businesses creating products. In my state (Michigan), I don't have to pay use tax on materials that directly go into my final products. The lady I spoke with said I should fill out Form 3372 and provide it to my suppliers to avoid being charged sales tax on qualifying purchases. Worth checking if your state has something similar!
As someone who's been dealing with this for my soap making business, I can tell you the key is figuring out what your state considers "for resale" vs "for business use." In most states, raw materials that become part of your finished product (like your beads, wire, and chains) are exempt from use tax if you have a resale certificate - because you're essentially buying them to resell as part of your jewelry. But here's what tripped me up at first: things like your tools, packaging that doesn't transfer to customers, office supplies, and equipment are usually subject to use tax if you didn't pay sales tax when buying them. My advice is to start simple - get your resale certificate first (usually free from your state's revenue department), then keep two lists: one for materials that go into products, and one for everything else you buy out-of-state without paying sales tax. Most states let you report use tax annually with your regular tax filing. The good news is most states have a minimum threshold before you even need to worry about this - often around $500-1000 in taxable purchases per year. Don't let the paperwork scare you away from keeping your business compliant!
This is really helpful! I've been putting off dealing with this because it seemed so overwhelming, but breaking it down into just two lists makes it feel much more manageable. Quick question - when you say "packaging that doesn't transfer to customers" vs packaging that does, can you give me an example? Like, would the little jewelry boxes I put my earrings in count as transferring to customers since they keep them, or would those still be considered business use?
This is such a timely discussion! I've been researching this exact strategy for weeks and the insights here are incredibly valuable. One thing I'd add from my research is to be really careful about which payment processor you use. I found that Pay1040 and PayUSATax have slightly different fee structures, and some processors have daily/monthly limits that could affect larger overpayments. Also, certain processors seem to have better relationships with specific credit card networks - I noticed AmEx transactions process more smoothly through some platforms than others. Has anyone experimented with splitting large overpayments across multiple processors to potentially reduce fees or avoid hitting transaction limits? I'm thinking if I wanted to overpay by $5,000, maybe doing two $2,500 payments through different processors might be safer and potentially cheaper depending on their fee structures. The quarterly estimated payment approach mentioned by Maya is brilliant - it would definitely appear more legitimate than a massive overpayment with your annual return. For those of us who aren't self-employed, we could potentially make "estimated payments" for the following year, which might achieve the same natural appearance while still getting the current year's credit card rewards.
Really great point about the different payment processors! I hadn't thought about splitting payments across multiple platforms, but that makes a lot of sense both for fee optimization and risk management. The idea about making "estimated payments" for the following year is intriguing too - though I'd be a bit cautious about that approach. I wonder if there are any IRS rules about when estimated payments can be made or if they need to correspond to actual income timing? Might be worth checking with a tax professional before going that route. Your point about processor-specific credit card relationships is spot on. I've noticed some platforms seem to have issues with certain card types. Has anyone compiled a list of which processors work best with which credit card networks? That could be really valuable information for optimizing both fees and approval rates. I'm definitely leaning toward the conservative approach now after reading all these experiences - start small, use established processors, and maybe stick with the straightforward overpayment approach rather than trying to get too clever with estimated payments for future years.
As someone new to this community, I've found this discussion incredibly informative! I'm a tax preparer and wanted to add a professional perspective on some of the concerns raised here. From what I've seen in practice, the IRS generally doesn't flag accounts for overpayments unless they're truly excessive relative to your income (like overpaying by 50% of your actual tax liability). The key is keeping overpayments reasonable - I usually tell clients that overpaying by 10-20% of their actual tax owed is unlikely to raise any red flags. For those worried about audits, remember that overpaying actually reduces audit risk in most cases since you're demonstrating compliance rather than trying to minimize what you owe. The IRS is far more concerned with underpayments and unreported income. One tip I always share: if you're going to do this strategy, make sure your record-keeping is immaculate. Document why you made the overpayment (estimated taxes, bonus income, etc.) so if anyone ever asks, you have a clear, legitimate explanation ready. The timing and processor advice shared here is excellent. I'd also add that if you're married filing jointly, coordinate with your spouse on credit card utilization since you'll both be affected by any temporary score changes.
Thank you so much for the professional perspective! It's really reassuring to hear from an actual tax preparer that overpayments in the 10-20% range are generally not concerning to the IRS. That helps me feel more confident about potentially trying this strategy. Your point about documentation is excellent - I hadn't thought about preparing a clear explanation ahead of time. If I do move forward with this, I'll make sure to document it as an estimated payment for potential bonus income or something similar. One follow-up question: when you mention keeping overpayments reasonable relative to income, is that based on your AGI or your actual tax liability? For example, if someone owes $3,000 in taxes but has an AGI of $80,000, would an overpayment of $3,000 (100% of tax owed but only 3.75% of AGI) be considered reasonable? Also, do you have any insights into whether the IRS processes overpayment refunds differently during busy filing season versus other times of the year? I'm wondering if timing the overpayment for less busy periods might result in faster refund processing.
Yara Sabbagh
I'm going through something similar right now! My tax preparer just quoted me $350 for adding my rental property K-1 to my return - said it's their "new standard rate" for partnership documents. The K-1 is from a simple rental LLC with just rental income and depreciation, nothing complicated. What really bothers me is that they didn't mention this fee increase when I scheduled my appointment. I've been a client for 4 years and this is the first time they've charged extra for the K-1. When I asked why the sudden increase, they gave me some vague explanation about "increased professional liability" and "new compliance requirements." I'm seriously considering switching preparers or trying to do it myself. Has anyone had luck negotiating these fees down, especially as a long-term client? It feels like they're taking advantage of people who don't want to deal with the hassle of finding someone new during tax season.
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Lilah Brooks
ā¢$350 for a rental property K-1 is absolutely outrageous! That's even worse than what the original poster is dealing with. A rental LLC K-1 is typically one of the simpler types since it's usually just rental income, expenses, and depreciation flowing through. I'd definitely try negotiating first - mention that you've been a loyal client for 4 years and this sudden fee increase with no advance notice isn't acceptable. If they won't budge, I'd start calling other preparers in your area to get quotes. Most would probably handle a simple rental K-1 for $75-150 max. The "increased professional liability" excuse sounds like complete nonsense to me. What liability? They're literally just transferring numbers from your K-1 to the appropriate lines on your Schedule E. Don't let them take advantage of you just because it's tax season and they think you won't want to switch.
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Miguel Ortiz
I just went through the exact same thing! My CPA suddenly wanted an extra $150 for my S-corp K-1 this year after handling it for the past 3 years with no additional charge. When I pushed back, he couldn't give me a straight answer about what had actually changed. I ended up switching to a different CPA who charged me $50 extra for the K-1 and actually took the time to explain why there's an additional fee (liability coverage, additional forms that need to be checked, etc.). The difference in service was night and day - my new preparer walked me through exactly how the K-1 numbers flowed into different parts of my return. My advice would be to call around and get quotes from other preparers in your area. I found that most charge between $50-100 for a straightforward K-1, not $200. Don't let them take advantage of you just because you're an existing client - there are plenty of qualified preparers who would be happy to earn your business at a fair price. Also, since you mentioned the K-1 is already completely prepared by your business accountant, make sure to emphasize that when getting quotes from other preparers. That should definitely factor into their pricing since they're not starting from scratch.
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Savannah Weiner
ā¢This is really helpful to hear from someone who went through the same situation! I'm definitely going to start calling around for quotes. The fact that your new CPA only charged $50 extra and actually explained their reasoning shows there are still reasonable professionals out there. You make a great point about emphasizing that the K-1 is already prepared by my business accountant. I hadn't thought to mention that when getting quotes, but you're right - that should definitely reduce the work involved and hopefully the fee too. Did you have any trouble with the transition to a new preparer mid-season? I'm worried about the timing since we're already into tax season, but paying $200 extra for essentially data entry just feels wrong.
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