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Maybe a dumb question but has anyone actually tried claiming these employer contributions as deductions anyway? I mean, would the IRS even notice if I just put them on Schedule A? My accountant friend says the IRS matching systems wouldn't catch this.

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Demi Hall

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This is terrible advice! You'd essentially be double-dipping on tax benefits since the contributions are already excluded from your taxable income. This is a clear case of tax fraud if you knowingly try to deduct something that's already not being taxed. Plus, employee benefits are reported to the IRS by employers through various forms. The IRS absolutely has systems to catch this kind of thing. Not worth risking an audit and penalties over.

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Good point, hadn't thought about the double-dipping aspect. Definitely don't want to risk an audit situation - just wasn't sure if the system would actually catch it. Thanks for setting me straight before I did something stupid!

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I've been in a similar situation with my local electricians union. One thing that helped me understand this better was looking at my annual benefits statement from the union pension fund. It usually breaks down exactly what type of contributions are being made and their tax treatment. For the pension contributions specifically, if it's a traditional defined benefit pension plan (which most union pensions are), those employer contributions are indeed excluded from your current taxable income. You'll pay taxes on the pension payments when you retire and start receiving them. The supplemental retirement fund might be different depending on whether it's structured as a 401(k), 403(b), or some other type of plan. Some unions have supplemental plans where you can make additional voluntary contributions that would be deductible. I'd recommend calling your union benefits office directly - they should be able to give you a clear breakdown of exactly what each contribution is and how it's treated for tax purposes. They deal with these questions all the time and can usually explain it better than trying to figure it out from tax software.

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Reina Salazar

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This is really helpful advice! I never thought to check my annual benefits statement from the pension fund. I've been so focused on trying to figure this out from my W-2 and pay stubs that I completely overlooked what's probably the most straightforward source of information. Do you happen to know if these annual benefits statements are something I should be receiving automatically, or do I need to request them? I'm pretty new to understanding all these union benefits and want to make sure I'm not missing important documents that could help with my taxes. Also, when you called your union benefits office, did they have someone specifically knowledgeable about tax implications, or did you just talk to general benefits staff?

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QuantumQueen

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Has anyone tried FreeTaxUSA for filing prior year returns? TurboTax won't let me e-file my late 2024 return either, and I'm trying to figure out if there's ANY software that will let me e-file rather than mail it in.

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Aisha Rahman

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I tried both FreeTaxUSA and TaxAct last year for a late 2023 return, and neither would allow e-filing for prior year returns. The IRS only accepts e-filing for current year returns. For prior years, you have to print and mail. It's annoying but that's the system.

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QuantumQueen

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Thanks for the info! That's frustrating but good to know. I'll stop wasting time looking for an e-filing option and just get it in the mail ASAP.

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Nolan Carter

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I'm dealing with a similar situation right now! Filed my extension but completely forgot about the October deadline. One thing I learned from calling the IRS (after waiting on hold for literally 3 hours) is that you can also request penalty relief for "reasonable cause" if you have a valid reason for the delay - like serious illness, natural disaster, or other circumstances beyond your control. Even if you don't qualify for First-Time Penalty Abatement, it's worth documenting any legitimate reasons you had for missing the deadline. The IRS agent I spoke with said they evaluate each case individually for reasonable cause relief. Also, make sure you include Form 4868 with your late return if you didn't file an extension originally, or attach a copy of your extension if you did file one. This shows the IRS your filing history and can help with penalty calculations. Good luck getting this sorted out! The stress is real but it sounds like you have a solid plan to get caught up.

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That's really helpful info about the reasonable cause relief! I didn't know that was separate from the First-Time Penalty Abatement. Do you happen to know if there's a specific form for requesting reasonable cause relief, or is it also done by calling/writing a letter like the FTA? Also, thanks for the tip about including Form 4868 - I did file an extension back in April, so I'll make sure to attach a copy of that with my return to show I wasn't completely negligent about the whole thing. The 3-hour hold time sounds brutal though. I might look into that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier to avoid that nightmare!

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Mei Chen

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Have you checked your state's department of revenue website specifically? Many states have their own "Where's My Refund" tools that are completely separate from the federal IRS site. Also, what state are you in? Some states are notoriously slow with processing amended returns - California and New York can take 6+ months sometimes. Did you e-file or paper file your state amendment?

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CosmicCowboy

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Just to add my experience - I filed amended returns for both federal and state last year, and the difference in processing times was incredible. Got my federal refund in about 12 weeks, but my state refund (Pennsylvania) took almost 8 months! The PA Department of Revenue website barely had any updates during that time either. What really helped me was setting up alerts on both the IRS "Where's My Amended Return" tool and my state's system so I wasn't constantly checking manually. Also learned that some states like mine still require paper filing for certain amended returns, which slows things down even more compared to federal e-filing.

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QuantumQuest

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This is actually a really common situation that happens more often than people realize! The fact that you received a legitimate Treasury check with a reference code like "SCH-REF-2023" strongly suggests this is an automated adjustment the IRS made in your favor. Even though you already paid what you owed, the IRS continuously processes corrections and updates throughout the year. Some common reasons for these surprise refunds include: - **Automated income verification**: The IRS cross-references your reported income with forms they receive directly from employers, banks, and other institutions. Sometimes they catch discrepancies that work in your favor. - **Credit recalculations**: You might have been eligible for credits you didn't claim or didn't claim the full amount of (like education credits, retirement savings contributions credit, etc.). - **Third-party corrections**: Sometimes employers or financial institutions file corrected forms (W-2C, 1099 corrections) after you've already filed your return. The $328.42 amount suggests this was probably a specific line-item correction rather than just interest or a random error. You should absolutely cash the check - it's yours! The IRS doesn't issue refund checks by mistake very often, and when they do make errors, they're usually pretty quick to catch them. The explanatory letter should arrive within the next couple of weeks, but if you're curious now, you can check your tax account transcript on irs.gov to see exactly what was adjusted. Don't stress about having to pay it back - that's extremely unlikely once a check has been issued.

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This is such a comprehensive explanation, thank you! I really appreciate you breaking down all the different scenarios that could lead to these surprise checks. The automated income verification angle makes a lot of sense - I remember getting a corrected 1099 from my bank sometime in April, but I thought it was too late to matter since I'd already filed. It sounds like the IRS just handled the correction automatically, which is honestly pretty impressive. I was getting myself worked up thinking this was some kind of error that would come back to bite me later, but hearing from multiple people who've been through this exact situation is really reassuring. I'm definitely going to cash it and check out that transcript tool you mentioned to satisfy my curiosity about what exactly got adjusted.

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I've been through this exact situation multiple times and can confirm what others have said - these Treasury checks are legitimate and you should definitely cash it! The "SCH-REF-2023" code is a standard IRS reference indicating a schedule-related adjustment for tax year 2023. What's likely happened is the IRS received updated information after you filed (maybe a corrected W-2, 1099, or other tax document) and automatically processed the correction in your favor. They're actually getting much better at these automated adjustments - it's part of their modernization efforts. A few practical tips from my experience: - Cash the check right away - there's no downside and it's legitimately yours - The explanation letter usually arrives 1-3 weeks after the check, so be patient - If you want immediate answers, log into irs.gov and check your Account Transcript - it will show exactly what line item was adjusted - Keep the check stub and any explanation letter for your records The amount ($328.42) is pretty typical for these adjustments - often it's a credit you were eligible for but didn't claim, or a deduction/income item that was reported differently than what you filed. Don't worry about having to pay it back - once the IRS issues these adjustment checks, they've already verified the correction multiple times in their system. Congrats on the unexpected windfall!

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StarStrider

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This is really helpful advice! I'm still pretty new to understanding how all the IRS systems work, so hearing from someone who's been through this multiple times is reassuring. The part about them getting better at automated adjustments makes sense - I guess technology really is making these processes smoother for everyone. I'm curious though - when you mention checking the Account Transcript on irs.gov, is that something that requires a lot of personal verification to set up? I've always been a bit hesitant to create accounts on government websites because of all the identity verification steps, but if it can give me immediate answers about what was adjusted, it might be worth the hassle. Also, do you happen to know if these automatic corrections ever trigger any kind of audit or additional scrutiny? I know I shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth, but I'm just naturally cautious about anything tax-related!

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I'm so sorry you're dealing with medical bills on top of tax refund delays - that combination of stress is just brutal. I went through something similar two years ago when I was waiting for my Mississippi refund while facing some unexpected medical expenses. Here's what I wish someone had told me then: if you're calling the Mississippi DOR and getting nowhere, ask to speak with a "refund specialist" specifically. Regular customer service reps often can't see the full picture of what's holding up your return. The specialists have access to more detailed notes and can often spot issues that aren't obvious in the basic system. Also, since you mentioned medical procedures you can't put off, have you looked into whether your healthcare providers offer any emergency payment assistance programs? Many hospitals and clinics have funds specifically for situations like yours where insurance doesn't cover everything and you're waiting on expected income. It's worth a phone call to their financial counseling department. One more thing - if you end up needing to call multiple times, try to get the same representative if possible. Ask for their direct extension or employee ID. Having continuity really helped when I was dealing with my situation because they could pick up where the last conversation left off instead of starting over each time. Hang in there - this will get resolved, even though I know it feels endless when you're in the middle of it.

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@Danielle Campbell, this is such thoughtful advice! I'm just joining this community but wanted to add something I learned recently - if you're dealing with urgent medical expenses, some states (including Mississippi) have a "financial emergency" provision where they can issue partial refunds while the full return is still being processed. It's not widely advertised, but when you call, specifically ask if you qualify for an "emergency partial refund due to medical hardship." They typically require documentation from your healthcare provider, but it could get you at least some money faster. @Dylan Mitchell, I really hope things work out for you soon - the combination of health issues and financial stress is something no one should have to navigate alone. This community seems to have great people willing to help!

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Dylan, I'm really sorry to hear about your situation - the stress of waiting for a refund when you have pressing medical expenses is incredibly overwhelming. I wanted to share something that helped me last year when I was in a similar spot with Mississippi. Beyond all the great phone number advice already given, I discovered that Mississippi has a "Taxpayer Advocate Service" that most people don't know about. If you've been waiting more than 45 days and can document financial hardship due to medical bills, you can request advocate assistance by calling (601) 923-7000 and asking specifically for the "Taxpayer Advocate Office." They have more authority to expedite cases than regular customer service. Also, when you do get through to someone, make sure to mention that this is creating a medical financial emergency. Mississippi tax code actually has provisions for expediting refunds in cases of documented hardship - you might need a letter from your healthcare provider, but it could cut your wait time significantly. In the meantime, please don't hesitate to reach out to your medical providers about payment plans or hardship programs. Most are surprisingly understanding when you explain you're waiting on a tax refund for medical expenses. Hang in there - I know it feels like forever when you're watching medical bills pile up, but this will get resolved. Keep us updated on how it goes!

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