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Sara Unger

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Just a heads up for everyone - I learned the hard way that the Certification for No Information Reporting is something you need to provide BEFORE closing. I didn't do this and got a 1099-S filed to the IRS for my home sale. Had to report it on my return even though I qualified for the full exclusion. The form itself isn't complicated but timing matters!

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Does anyone know if there's a specific form for this certification or is it just a statement you write up? My closing is next week and I want to make sure I do this right.

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@Butch Sledgehammer There isn t'a specific IRS form for this certification. It s'typically a written statement you provide to your settlement agent/title company stating that you meet the requirements for the principal residence exclusion. The statement should include: 1 You) owned and used the home as your principal residence for at least 2 of the 5 years before the sale, 2 Your) gain doesn t'exceed the exclusion amount $250k (single/$500k married ,)and 3 You) haven t'used the exclusion on another home sale within the past 2 years. Your title company or real estate attorney should be familiar with this and can help you prepare the proper language. Make sure to get this to them before closing!

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Rachel Clark

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I went through this exact same situation last year and want to share what I learned to hopefully save others some stress. The "Certification for No Information Reporting" is basically a written statement you give to your settlement agent/title company at closing that says you qualify for the principal residence exclusion. Since you already closed without providing this certification, you'll likely receive a Form 1099-S reporting the sale to the IRS. Don't panic though - this just means you need to report the sale on your tax return using Form 8949 and Schedule D. The good news is you can still claim your $250,000 exclusion on your tax return. You'll report the full $290,000 gain but then subtract the $250,000 exclusion, leaving you with $40,000 in taxable capital gains. Since you owned the home for more than a year, this will be taxed at long-term capital gains rates (likely 15% for most people). Make sure to gather all your documents - purchase agreement, closing statements, records of any home improvements (these can be added to your cost basis to reduce the gain). The IRS instructions for Form 8949 walk you through exactly how to report a principal residence sale with the exclusion applied.

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Emma Wilson

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This is such helpful advice, thank you! I'm actually in the middle of dealing with this exact situation right now. Quick question - when you mention adding home improvements to the cost basis, do things like new appliances count? Or does it have to be major renovations like kitchen remodels? I kept most of my receipts but want to make sure I'm not claiming things I shouldn't.

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Laila Fury

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Just to throw something else in the mix - make sure you're calculating the Qualified Business Income deduction correctly too! For rental real estate on Form 8825, there are specific rules for taking the QBI deduction that differ from other types of business income. This can be a huge tax savings if done right.

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I second this! The QBI deduction (Section 199A) can be really valuable for rental properties. Just make sure your properties qualify as a "trade or business" under Section 162, which it sounds like they would with your level of activity. Our cabin rentals saved us about $9,400 last year with the QBI deduction.

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Sean Murphy

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Great discussion here! I'm dealing with a similar situation with my partner's cabin rental LLC. One thing that helped us was creating a detailed activity log from day one - we track everything from guest communications, cleaning hours, maintenance work, marketing efforts, and bookkeeping time. The IRS expects contemporaneous records if you're claiming real estate professional status, so don't wait until tax time to start documenting. We use a simple spreadsheet with date, activity type, hours spent, and brief description. It's been invaluable for both proving our material participation and for business planning purposes. Also worth noting - if you do qualify as real estate professionals, make sure you understand the "grouping" rules. You can elect to treat all your rental real estate activities as one activity, which makes it easier to meet the material participation tests. This election has to be made on a timely filed return (including extensions) for the first year you qualify.

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One quick warning based on personal experience - make sure your LLC partnership is correctly reporting your status as a foreign partner on the K-1! There's a specific box they need to check, and they should be completing the foreign partner information in Box 20. Many U.S. accountants don't deal with foreign partners often and mess this up. If your K-1 doesn't properly identify you as a foreign partner, you might face issues with the IRS later when they try to reconcile your 1040-NR with partnership reporting.

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Is there a specific form or tax treatment the partnership needs to handle for foreign partners? Our partnership accountant seems clueless about having non-US partners and I want to make sure they're doing everything correctly on their end.

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Chloe Davis

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Yes, the partnership needs to handle several specific requirements for foreign partners. They should be filing Form 8805 to report withholding on effectively connected income allocated to foreign partners, and they need to issue you Form 8813 showing any tax withheld on your behalf. On your K-1, they should check the "Foreign partner" box and complete Box 20 with foreign partner-specific allocations and any treaty benefits. The partnership also needs to withhold tax under Section 1446 on your share of effectively connected income (even if it's a loss in your case, they need to track this properly for future years). I'd recommend giving your partnership accountant IRS Publication 541 (Partnerships) and specifically pointing them to the sections on foreign partners. If they're still confused, they might need to consult with a tax professional who has experience with international partnership taxation.

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Great question! I went through this exact situation last year as a non-US person with partnership losses. You absolutely need to file Form 1040-NR even with no income - the key is that you were "engaged in a trade or business in the US" through your LLC partnership. A few important points from my experience: 1. File even with losses - you can carry these forward to offset future partnership income 2. Make sure your LLC properly marked you as a foreign partner on the K-1 (Box 20 should have foreign partner allocations) 3. You'll report the K-1 losses on Schedule E, which attaches to your 1040-NR 4. If you don't have an ITIN yet, you can apply for one when you file using Form W-7 The filing requirement isn't about having income - it's about being engaged in US business activity. Since you received a K-1 as an active partner, you meet this threshold. Don't skip filing or you could lose the ability to use these losses against future profits!

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This is really helpful, thank you! I'm in a similar situation as the original poster. One question - you mentioned that losses can be carried forward to offset future partnership income. Do you know if there are any limitations on how long these losses can be carried forward, or any special rules that apply specifically to foreign partners? Also, when you filed your 1040-NR with the partnership losses, did you need to include any additional documentation beyond the K-1 and Schedule E?

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Emma Wilson

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Great question about loss carryforwards! For foreign partners, the same general rules apply - partnership losses can be carried forward indefinitely until used, but there are some nuances. The losses are subject to basis limitations (you can only deduct losses up to your basis in the partnership), and as a foreign partner, you need to track your basis carefully since it affects future effectively connected income calculations. Regarding additional documentation, beyond the K-1 and Schedule E, I also included a statement explaining my foreign partner status and any applicable tax treaty benefits (since I'm from a country with a US tax treaty). Some tax professionals recommend including a brief explanation of your non-US person status to help the IRS process your return correctly. One thing to watch out for - if your partnership generates income in future years, you'll want to make sure you're tracking these loss carryforwards properly since they can significantly reduce your US tax liability. Keep good records of your basis adjustments from year to year!

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Nia Watson

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Doesnt the 100% safe harbor only work if ur current year income is under 150k? If ur making big capital gains and going over 150k total, dont u need to pay 110% of last years taxes to meet safe harbor??

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Derek Olson

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The 100% vs 110% threshold is based on your PRIOR year's income, not your current year income. If your AGI in 2023 was under $150k, you only need to pay 100% of that 2023 tax liability to meet safe harbor for 2024, even if your 2024 income will be much higher due to capital gains. If your 2023 AGI was over $150k, then yes, you'd need to pay 110% of your 2023 tax to meet the safe harbor for 2024. It's a common misconception that current year income affects which percentage applies, but it's actually based on the previous year.

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Jay Lincoln

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I went through this exact same situation last year after selling some stocks that had appreciated significantly. The key thing that helped me was understanding that the safe harbor rule is designed to protect you from penalties, not necessarily minimize your total tax bill. In your example, if you paid $32k last year and have $13k withheld this year, making $19k in estimated payments would indeed meet the 100% safe harbor requirement and protect you from underpayment penalties. You'd still owe the remaining ~$33k when you file, but without the penalty. One practical tip: I found it helpful to make the estimated payment as soon as possible after realizing the gains rather than waiting until the quarterly due date. This shows good faith effort to the IRS and gives you more time to adjust if you realize you've miscalculated something. Also, don't forget that if you have any other withholding sources (like a spouse's job or 1099 work), those count toward your safe harbor amount too. The IRS really does treat all payments equally - withholding, estimated payments, and even overpayments from prior years all count.

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Teresa Boyd

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This is exactly the kind of practical advice I was looking for! I've been overthinking this whole situation and your explanation really clarifies things. Making the payment early after realizing the gains makes total sense - better to be proactive than scramble at the deadline. One follow-up question: when you say "overpayments from prior years" count toward the safe harbor, do you mean if I had a refund last year but chose to apply it to this year's taxes? I think I might have done that but honestly can't remember - would that show up somewhere on my tax documents? Also appreciate the reminder about spouse withholding. My partner has been working all year with regular withholding while I've been between jobs, so that should help reduce what I need to pay in estimated taxes.

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Anna Xian

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Thanks for all the helpful responses here! I ended up calling the IRS myself (after many attempts) and got confirmation that matches what most of you have said. As a nonresident alien, I'm not eligible for HSA tax benefits, so the contribution should be included in taxable income. The agent explained that since my W-2 Box 1 already matches Box 16, it means my employer correctly didn't exclude the HSA contribution from my taxable wages - which is exactly what should happen for nonresidents. So the Sprintax agent was actually right that I don't need to file Form 8889, but for a different reason than they explained. The confusion about the 1099-SA was indeed irrelevant since that's for distributions, not contributions. Lesson learned - always verify tax advice from software support, especially for complex nonresident situations!

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Amara Eze

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This is really helpful clarification! I'm also a nonresident alien (on F-1 visa) and have been struggling with the same HSA confusion. It's good to know that if Box 1 matches Box 16 on the W-2, it means the employer already handled it correctly by not excluding the HSA contribution from taxable income. I was getting worried that I'd made some major tax mistake by having an HSA account that my employer set up automatically. Sounds like as long as the contribution is properly included in taxable income (which it seems like it already is based on the W-2 boxes matching), then we're in compliance even though we can't claim the HSA tax benefits that residents get. Thanks for taking the time to call the IRS and share what you learned - definitely saves the rest of us from the same headache!

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Leo Simmons

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm also a nonresident alien (H-1B visa) dealing with HSA confusion. Based on everyone's experiences here, it sounds like the key thing to check is whether your W-2 Box 1 (wages) matches Box 16 (state wages). If they match, it means your employer correctly included the HSA contribution in your taxable income, which is what should happen for nonresidents who aren't eligible for HSA tax benefits. I was panicking because I thought I needed to file Form 8889, but it's reassuring to hear from multiple people that nonresidents can skip that form entirely. The IRS confirmation that Anna got really clears things up. One question though - for those who had HSA accounts automatically set up by employers, did you end up keeping the account open or closing it? I'm wondering if there are any issues with maintaining an HSA as a nonresident even if we can't claim the tax benefits.

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Great question about keeping the HSA account open! I'm in a similar situation as a newcomer to understanding all this HSA complexity as a nonresident alien. From what I've been reading in various tax resources, you can actually keep the HSA account open even as a nonresident - you just can't make any NEW contributions or claim the tax benefits that residents get. The money that's already in there can stay invested and grow, but any future contributions would need to be treated as taxable income (which sounds like most employers are already doing correctly based on the W-2 Box 1 vs Box 16 discussion here). I think the main thing is making sure your employer's payroll department understands your nonresident status so they don't exclude HSA contributions from your taxable wages going forward. It might be worth having that conversation with HR to avoid any confusion in future tax years. Has anyone here actually had issues with their employer's payroll system incorrectly excluding HSA contributions from taxable income for nonresidents? I'm wondering how common that mistake is.

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