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We just finished calculating our business taxes and I'm confused about section 179 deductions. In 2024, we invested heavily in new equipment for our manufacturing business - about $4.1 million worth. I understand the phase-out threshold starts at $2.97 million for 2024, which means our maximum deduction of $1.16 million gets reduced to zero because we exceeded the threshold by so much. My question is: can we carry forward this disallowed $1.16 million section 179 deduction to future tax years? Or is it completely lost because we went over the phase-out amount? Our accountant is out on medical leave, and I need to understand our options before making some decisions about additional equipment purchases for next year. Not looking for official tax advice, just hoping to hear from others who've dealt with section 179 phase-outs and what your experience has been. Thanks!
Filed my taxes and expecting a paper check since I always get them. Can anyone tell me how long it took for your 846 code to show up on transcripts and then actually get the check in the mail? I'm getting anxious checking WMR every day.
Direct Deposit is the way 2 go bestie... learned that lesson last year when my check got lost in the mail π
Been there with the daily WMR checking! π From my experience, once you get the 846 code, paper checks usually arrive 5-10 business days later. Mine took exactly 7 days last year. The waiting is the worst part but at least once you see that 846 you know your money is coming! Pro tip: set up USPS Informed Delivery so you can see when the check is actually coming in your mail that day - saves some anxiety!
Title: Getting hit with a penalty for tax underpayment when my employer didn't withhold enough - is this reasonable? 1 I'm completely frustrated right now. Just working on my 2024 taxes through TurboTax and discovered I'm getting slapped with a $270 penalty for "underpayment of taxes" throughout the year. The kicker? It's because my employer apparently didn't withhold enough from my paychecks. This seems totally unfair! How am I supposed to control what my employer withholds? I'm not the one calculating the withholdings - they are! I thought the whole point of having an employer handle tax withholding was so we wouldn't have to worry about this stuff. Does this mean I need to set aside extra money every single paycheck just in case my employer screws up the withholding calculations? Do I need to become a tax expert and double-check their math all year? I'm seriously annoyed that I'm being penalized for something that wasn't even my responsibility. Has anyone else dealt with this? Is there any way to get this penalty removed since it wasn't my fault?
11 Has anyone successfully updated their W-4 to fix this? My HR department seems completely confused whenever I ask them about adjusting my withholding amount.
5 Yes! The trick is to use line 4(c) on the W-4 form. Don't try to adjust allowances (that system is gone) or explain why - just put the additional dollar amount you want withheld from each paycheck in that box. Your HR folks don't need to understand the tax logic, they just need to input that additional withholding amount.
I feel your frustration! I went through the exact same thing two years ago and was livid about getting penalized for something that seemed like my employer's mistake. But after dealing with it, I learned that we really do need to monitor our withholding throughout the year. What helped me was setting up a simple spreadsheet to track my year-to-date withholding against what I expect to owe. I check it every quarter now. If you're consistently getting refunds, you're probably safe, but if you usually owe money at filing time, that's a red flag that you need more withheld. The penalty calculation is actually pretty forgiving - you only get hit if you owe more than $1,000 AND didn't pay at least 90% of this year's tax or 100% of last year's tax through withholding. So even if your employer messes up slightly, you might still avoid penalties. For next year, I'd recommend using the IRS withholding calculator around mid-year to see if you're on track. It's much better to catch this in July than in April!
We normally file with turbo tax. My husband has a w2 and a 1099 this year from his job and no matter what we do the 1099 just keeps saying needs reviewed. This is so frustrating. I don't want to have to pay 100s to file taxes... we're getting close to the deadline and I'm a bit worried. Has anyone else run into this? I'm trying to be careful but with the kids and everything else going on, I just want to get this done without breaking the bank.
Has anyone actually tried the free filing options instead of TurboTax? I'm wondering if this is just a TurboTax issue or if all the tax software has the same problem with 1099s? Here's what I'd try: 1. Download your info from TurboTax if possible 2. Try the IRS Free File options 3. See if the same error occurs Does the 1099 have anything unusual on it that might be triggering the review?
I tried exactly this last yr w/ a similar situation. Switched from TT to FreeTaxUSA and it worked perfectly! No weird flags, saved $89, and got my refund in 2 wks. The interface isn't as pretty but tbh it was more straightforward for the 1099 stuff. Def worth a try!
I've seen this issue frequently - TurboTax's review system often gets triggered when it sees both W-2 and 1099 income from what appears to be employment-related sources. Before you abandon TurboTax entirely, try this: go to the 1099 section and look for an option to "Override" or "Continue Anyway" - it's usually buried in small text near the review message. The software is being overly cautious, but you can often proceed if you're confident the information is correct. That said, the free filing suggestions above are solid alternatives. Also, make sure your husband's employer didn't make an error - having both forms from the same employer can sometimes indicate a payroll mistake that should be corrected at the source.
My wife and I are starting a small scholarship program and 2025 will be our first year giving it out. We're planning to award $3,200 annually to a deserving student. The way we've set it up, we maintain control of the funds rather than transferring money to a school or foundation. Basically, the school handles the application process and screening, lets us review the applicants, and then we write a check directly to the student we select as the winner. This arrangement gives us flexibility to invest the scholarship money however we want, or just keep it in our regular accounts until it's time to make the award. I'm wondering about the tax implications though - since we're holding the funds ourselves (not in a charitable account) and paying directly to the individual winner (not to an educational institution), is there any way we can make these scholarship awards tax deductible on our return? Or are we out of luck because of how we've structured this?
Have you looked into setting this up as a family foundation instead? If you're planning to do this long-term and potentially increase the amount, it might be worth the initial setup costs. My in-laws did this for a memorial scholarship and while there was more paperwork, they got the tax deduction and maintained control.
Just wanted to add another perspective from someone who's been through this process. We started with a similar setup - wanting to maintain control while getting tax benefits for our annual $2,500 scholarship. After researching all the options mentioned here, we went with a community foundation and it's been fantastic. The key thing people don't always mention is that most community foundations will let you establish specific criteria for your scholarship (academic merit, financial need, field of study, etc.) and you can usually serve on or influence the selection committee. So while you're not writing the check directly to the student anymore, you're still very much involved in who receives it. The tax deduction has been significant for us - at our tax bracket, we're essentially getting back about 30% of what we contribute, which lets us fund a larger scholarship than we could afford otherwise. The foundation handles all the compliance stuff, tracks the recipients, and even provides updates on how the students are doing. Highly recommend this route if you want both tax benefits and meaningful involvement in the selection process.
Daryl Bright
Something important that nobody has mentioned yet - you need to make sure you're still explicitly electing Section 179 on your Form 4562 even though the deduction is completely phased out this year. If you don't make the election, you can't carry forward the disallowed amount!
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Sienna Gomez
This is so true! I learned this the hard way last year. Didn't properly elect Section 179 because I thought "why bother" since it was completely phased out. My accountant caught it this year but said we lost the ability to carry forward about $320k in deductions. Check your 4562 carefully!!
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Daryl Bright
Exactly! You need to complete Part I of Form 4562, listing all the property for which you're electing Section 179. The form will walk you through calculating the limitation and will show the carryover to next year. Even though the deduction for the current year might be reduced to zero because of the investment limitation, making the election is what establishes your right to the carryover. I've seen too many businesses miss out on significant future deductions simply because they didn't complete this paperwork correctly. These formal elections matter tremendously in tax law, even when they don't provide an immediate benefit.
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Mei Chen
This is such a helpful discussion! I'm dealing with a similar situation where we purchased $3.2 million in equipment this year and got completely phased out of Section 179. Reading through everyone's responses, I think I need to seriously consider the bonus depreciation route that Natalie mentioned instead of carrying forward the Section 179. Quick question for the group - if I'm understanding correctly, with bonus depreciation at 80% for 2024, I could potentially deduct $2.56 million this year ($3.2M Γ 80%) versus waiting to use a Section 179 carryforward in future years when bonus depreciation will be lower? That seems like it could be significantly more advantageous, especially since bonus depreciation drops to 60% next year. Has anyone done the math comparison between taking bonus depreciation now versus Section 179 carryforward for large equipment purchases?
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