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I'm going through something similar - filed my 2023 return in March and got stuck in "Action Required" status after ID verification in October. What helped me was calling the Taxpayer Advocate Service (1-877-777-4778) after hitting the 12-week mark. They can actually see what's causing the hold and sometimes expedite the review process. Also, try checking your IRS online account if you haven't already - sometimes there are notices posted there before they mail the physical copy. The "Action Required" message is super vague but usually means they're doing income/withholding verification or checking your Head of Household status eligibility. Don't lose hope! I know it's frustrating but most of these manual reviews do eventually clear. Keep documenting everything like Laura said - dates, reference numbers from calls, etc. You're not alone in this mess! š¤
Thanks for sharing your experience! Just to clarify - when you called the Taxpayer Advocate Service, did they actually tell you what specific issue was causing your delay? I've been hesitant to call because I heard the wait times are insane, but if they can give me real answers instead of the generic "we're reviewing it" response, it might be worth it. Also, how long did it take after you called TAS for things to actually move forward?
Been dealing with this exact same situation! Filed my 2023 return in April and got the "Action Required" status after ID verification in November. What finally worked for me was getting my account transcript from the IRS website - it showed specific transaction codes that explained what they were actually reviewing (in my case it was income verification from a W-2 mismatch). The key thing to understand is that "Action Required" doesn't always mean YOU need to do something right away. Sometimes it just means they're waiting for their internal systems to complete cross-referencing your info with third-party sources like employers or banks. I'd recommend ordering your 2023 Account Transcript online if you can access your IRS account - look for any 400+ codes which indicate what type of review they're doing. If you see codes like 424 (income verification) or 430 (dependent verification), that gives you a clearer picture than the vague WMR message. After 10 weeks I finally called and they told me the review was actually complete but hadn't updated in their system yet. Got my refund 2 weeks later. Hang in there - I know it's super stressful but most of these do resolve eventually! šŖ
Has anyone used a structured settlement instead of taking a lump sum? My tax guy mentioned this might help spread out the tax burden over multiple years.
I did this with my $120K employment settlement three years ago. Instead of getting hit with a huge tax bill in one year, I spread payments over 5 years at about $24K annually. Kept me in the same tax bracket and actually saved about $11K in total taxes compared to taking it all at once. The structured settlement company charged a fee, but it was way less than the tax savings.
Great question about EEOC settlements! I went through this exact situation about 18 months ago with a $95K settlement. Here's what I learned that might help: First, make sure your settlement agreement clearly breaks down what each portion represents - back pay, compensatory damages, punitive damages, attorney fees, etc. This is crucial for tax purposes. Back pay gets treated as W-2 wages (subject to employment taxes), while compensatory damages are taxable income but not subject to employment taxes. One key thing - if you had any documented physical symptoms from the workplace stress (ulcers, migraines, high blood pressure, etc.), those portions may qualify as tax-free under IRC Section 104(a)(2). You'll need medical documentation linking these conditions to the workplace discrimination. Also consider timing - if you're close to year-end, you might want to delay the settlement payout until January to push the tax liability into the next year, especially if you expect lower income next year. The "higher tax bracket" fear is common but remember that tax brackets are marginal - only the income above each threshold gets taxed at the higher rate, not your entire income. Still, spreading it out through installments or maximizing deductions can definitely help reduce the overall tax hit. Definitely consult with a tax professional who has experience with employment settlements - regular accountants often miss the nuances of these cases.
This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I'm new to dealing with settlements and taxes, so I really appreciate the detailed breakdown. A couple of follow-up questions if you don't mind: When you mention medical documentation linking physical symptoms to workplace discrimination, does this need to be from before the settlement, or can I get documentation now if I'm still experiencing these issues? I definitely had stress-related headaches and digestive problems during the whole ordeal, but I'm not sure if my medical records specifically mention the workplace connection. Also, regarding the timing aspect - my settlement is supposed to finalize in the next few weeks. Would it be worth asking my attorney to delay the payout until January? I'm currently unemployed (partly why I need this settlement), so my 2025 income will likely be much lower than 2024. Thanks again for sharing your experience - it's exactly the kind of real-world insight I was hoping to find here!
Don't forget that even though you report the income in the year you receive it, the character of the income (ordinary income, capital gains, tax-exempt income, etc.) flows through from the trust to you. The trust should provide a detailed K-1 showing the breakdown of what types of income are included in your distribution. This is important because different types of income are taxed at different rates. For example, if part of your distribution represents long-term capital gains realized by the trust, that portion would be taxed at the preferential capital gains rates on your personal return.
This is really helpful! The trustee mentioned there were some capital gains in the distribution but didn't explain how that would affect my taxes. Do I need to request additional documentation beyond the K-1 to properly report the different income types, or will the K-1 have all the details I need?
The K-1 should have all the details you need. Box 1 will show ordinary dividends and interest, Box 2 will show any royalty income, Box 3 will show other ordinary income, and Box 4 will show any net short-term capital gains. Box 5 will show long-term capital gains, which are taxed at the preferential rates. There are also separate boxes for tax-exempt income, foreign taxes paid, and other important items. The K-1 should come with supplemental statements explaining anything unusual. If something isn't clear, don't hesitate to ask the trustee for clarification - it's their responsibility to provide you with clear information for tax reporting.
Quick heads up - if your trust distribution was large (over $15,000 in 2022/2023), make sure the trustee isn't confusing the 65-day rule with gift tax reporting. I've seen this happen where trustees think the beneficiary needs to report large distributions as gifts, but trust distributions aren't considered gifts for tax purposes (the original transfer to the trust may have been). Trust distributions are generally reported as income by the beneficiary (unless they're distributions of principal, which usually aren't taxable). The gift tax annual exclusion amount ($17,000 for 2023) isn't relevant to trust distributions.
Thanks for mentioning this! I've been confused because my trustee kept talking about the "annual exclusion" when discussing my distribution timing. So to clarify, the trust reports distributions on Form 1041, and I report the income on my 1040 based on the K-1 I receive, correct? No gift tax forms involved?
That's correct! Trust distributions are completely separate from gift tax reporting. The trust files Form 1041 and provides you with a Schedule K-1 showing your share of income. You then report that income on your Form 1040 - no gift tax forms needed from your end. The trustee may be thinking about the original transfer that funded the trust (which could have involved gift tax considerations), but once assets are in the trust, distributions to beneficiaries are handled through the income tax system, not the gift tax system. The "annual exclusion" your trustee mentioned isn't relevant to how you report trust distributions on your personal return. Just make sure you receive your K-1 and report the income in the year you actually received the distribution (2023 in your case if that's when you got the money), regardless of the trust's 65-day election.
Great thread everyone! As a parent who just went through this process with my twin boys last year, I wanted to share a few additional insights. We ended up creating a separate "college application fund" early in their junior year specifically for all the non-529 eligible expenses mentioned here. One thing I learned the hard way: don't forget about CSS Profile fees if your kids are applying to schools that require it for financial aid. That's another $25 per school plus $16 for each additional school report. Also, if your student is applying to competitive programs, some require additional fees for auditions, portfolios, or supplemental applications that can add another $50-100 per school. My advice would be to start budgeting now for roughly $200-300 per school when you factor in application fees, test score sends, and any program-specific requirements. Keep those 529 funds safe for the guaranteed expenses once they're actually enrolled. The peace of mind is worth avoiding any potential penalties or tax complications!
This is such helpful advice! I hadn't even thought about CSS Profile fees or supplemental application costs. The $200-300 per school estimate is really eye-opening - that's going to add up fast with multiple applications. Creating a separate "college application fund" is brilliant. I think I'll start setting aside money now while my daughter is still a junior so we're not scrambling to cover all these costs next year. It's frustrating that 529 plans can't be used for these expenses, but at least now I know exactly what to budget for. Thanks for breaking down all those hidden costs!
As someone who works in college admissions, I wanted to add a few money-saving tips that might help offset some of these application costs that can't be covered by 529 funds: 1. Fee waivers - Many colleges offer application fee waivers for students who qualify based on income or participation in programs like free/reduced lunch. Don't assume you won't qualify - the income thresholds are often higher than expected. 2. Apply early decision/early action where possible - Some schools waive application fees for early applicants or offer reduced fees. 3. Visit virtual campus tours first - Most schools now offer comprehensive virtual experiences that can help you narrow down which schools are worth the expense of an in-person visit. 4. Look into SAT/ACT fee waivers - Low-income students can get up to 4 free SAT attempts plus free score reports to colleges. 5. Some schools participate in "application blitzes" or have special free application periods - usually announced on their social media or websites. While it's disappointing that 529 plans can't cover these pre-enrollment costs, there are definitely ways to reduce the financial burden. Every dollar saved on applications is more money available for actual college expenses!
This is incredibly helpful advice from an admissions perspective! I had no idea about application fee waivers or that some schools have free application periods. The virtual campus tour suggestion is especially smart - we were planning to visit 8-10 schools in person which would have been a huge expense. Do you happen to know if the fee waiver eligibility is consistent across schools, or does each college have different income requirements? Also, are there specific times of year when schools are more likely to offer those free application promotions? This could really help us strategize which schools to prioritize for visits and applications while keeping costs manageable.
Yuki Kobayashi
Has anyone had success fighting a CP2000 for HSA distributions online through the IRS response portal rather than mailing everything? I'm wondering if I should just use their online system or if it's better to send a physical response with all my documentation.
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Carmen Vega
ā¢I used the online response system last year for my CP2000 and it worked great. Make sure you scan all your supporting docs clearly and upload them as PDFs. I got a faster response (about 4 weeks) than my brother who mailed his (took almost 3 months).
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Ravi Gupta
I dealt with this exact same situation last year! You're absolutely right to question it - HSA distributions for qualified medical expenses shouldn't be taxable. The problem is that the IRS computer system sees your 1099-SA showing the distribution but doesn't automatically know it was for qualified expenses. Even though your 1099-SA has Distribution Code 1, you still need to file Form 8889 with your tax return to officially report to the IRS that these were qualified medical expenses. Without Form 8889, their system assumes the entire distribution is taxable income. For your CP2000 response, I'd recommend: 1. Complete Form 8889 for the tax year showing your qualified medical expenses 2. Include copies of your 1099-SA forms 3. Attach receipts or documentation for the medical expenses that match your distribution amounts 4. Write a cover letter explaining that these were qualified medical expenses Keep copies of everything you send! The IRS should accept your explanation once they see the proper documentation. I went through this process and they completely reversed the proposed tax after reviewing my Form 8889 and supporting documents.
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Aiden O'Connor
ā¢This is really helpful, thank you! I'm in a similar situation and was panicking when I got my CP2000. One question - when you say "attach receipts or documentation for the medical expenses," do these need to be for the exact same amounts as shown on the 1099-SA? Like if my distribution was $4,730, do I need receipts that add up to exactly that amount, or is it okay if I have more medical expenses than the distribution amount?
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