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Malik Jackson

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Just to clarify the confusion here - you absolutely DO need to file taxes for your first year of working if you meet the income requirements! Don't wait until your second year. Here's the timeline: If you started working in January 2024, you'll file your 2024 tax return by April 15, 2025. Your AGI for that return will be whatever you earned in 2024 (minus any adjustments like student loan interest, etc.) - it won't be zero if you had income. The "prior year AGI" confusion comes from the e-filing verification process. When you file electronically, the system might ask for your prior year AGI to verify your identity. Since you've never filed before, you would enter 0 for that verification question only. Think of it this way: Your current year AGI = your actual income minus adjustments. Prior year AGI for verification = 0 if you've never filed before. Two completely different things!

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Mila Walker

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This is such a helpful breakdown! I was getting stressed about filing for the first time and kept seeing conflicting info online. The way you explained the difference between current year AGI (your actual earnings) vs prior year AGI for verification (0 if never filed) finally makes it click. Thanks for clearing that up - now I feel way more confident about tackling my first tax return!

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I went through this exact same confusion last year! The key thing to remember is that filing taxes is based on the tax year (January-December), not when you started working. So if you worked any part of 2024, you'll file those taxes in early 2025. Your AGI will definitely NOT be zero - it's calculated from your actual earnings minus any qualifying adjustments. The zero only comes into play if tax software asks for your "prior year AGI" during the e-filing process for identity verification purposes. One thing that really helped me was keeping track of all my tax documents (W-2, any 1099s, etc.) as I received them. Also, don't stress too much - most first-time filers with just W-2 income have pretty straightforward returns. You've got this!

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Thank you for sharing your experience! As someone who's about to file for the first time, it's really reassuring to hear from someone who's been through the same confusion. I like your advice about keeping track of all the tax documents - I've already started a folder for my W-2 when it comes in. One quick question - did you end up getting a refund your first year? I'm wondering if I should expect one since they've been taking taxes out of my paychecks, or if that's not guaranteed for first-time filers.

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Ethan Clark

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This is really helpful information! I've been putting off dealing with my FBAR requirements because I wasn't sure if my small foreign accounts even mattered. Reading through all these responses clarifies a lot - especially the point about aggregating ALL foreign accounts to hit that $10,000 threshold. I have a similar situation with a Revolut account (also UK-based) where I keep some Euros and GBP for travel. Never more than $2,000 total, but good to know I need to track the combined balances with any other foreign accounts I might open. The automatic October extension is also news to me - takes some pressure off since I'm always scrambling to get my regular taxes done by April 15th. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences with both the tools and actually getting through to the IRS. This community is incredibly valuable for navigating these complex international tax requirements!

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Khalid Howes

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Glad this thread was helpful! You're absolutely right about Revolut - same situation as Wise since they're also UK-based. One thing I learned the hard way is to keep screenshots or statements showing your account balances throughout the year, not just at year-end. The IRS wants to know the highest balance at any point during the calendar year, so if you had $8,000 in your Revolut account for just one week in July, that counts toward your threshold even if it was back down to $500 by December. Also worth noting that the $10,000 threshold is calculated using USD equivalent values, so you'll need to convert your Euros and GBP to USD using the Treasury's exchange rates for the dates when your balances were highest. It can get a bit tedious but better safe than sorry with FBAR compliance!

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Riya Sharma

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Just wanted to add a practical tip for anyone tracking their foreign account balances throughout the year - I set up monthly calendar reminders to screenshot my account balances and save them in a dedicated folder. This way I don't have to scramble at tax time trying to remember what my highest balances were. For Wise specifically, their monthly statements show the balance on the last day of each month, but you might hit your peak balance mid-month. I learned this when I transferred $8,000 through my Wise account in March but only kept it there for 3 days before sending it overseas. That brief spike still counted toward my FBAR threshold calculation even though my month-end statement showed a much lower balance. Also, don't forget that joint accounts count too! If you have signature authority over your spouse's foreign accounts or any business accounts, those balances get included in your $10,000 threshold calculation as well.

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Zara Rashid

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This is such great advice about the monthly screenshots! I wish I had thought of this earlier - I'm currently trying to reconstruct my account balances from last year and it's a nightmare. One question though - for the Treasury exchange rates you mentioned, where exactly do I find those? I've been using the rates from my bank statements but I want to make sure I'm using the official rates that the IRS expects for FBAR calculations. Also, the point about joint accounts is really important. I have signature authority on my elderly parent's account in Ireland that I help them manage, and I never realized that would count toward my own FBAR threshold. Definitely something I need to factor in going forward!

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Here's exactly what you need to do with your cycle code situation: 1. First, understand that 20250705 breaks down as: 2025 (IRS fiscal year) + 07 (7th week of processing) + 05 (Thursday processing day) 2. Next, check your account transcript for TC 846 code - this is your refund code 3. If you see TC 846, note the date next to it - that's your scheduled deposit date 4. If no TC 846 yet but you see TC 150 (return filed), you're in normal processing 5. Check again next Thursday morning as Thursday cycle codes typically update weekly Your W2 information is on a separate transcript and doesn't affect refund timing. With tuition due May 15th, you should have your refund well before then based on current processing times.

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I understand your anxiety about the timing with tuition due May 15th! The good news is that cycle code 20250705 is actually a positive indicator - it means your return has been processed and assigned to the Thursday update cycle (that's what the "05" means). Since you filed March 1st and are seeing this update on April 12th, you're well within normal processing timeframes. The missing W2 information you mentioned is likely on your Wage & Income transcript rather than your Account transcript - these are separate documents that update at different times. I'd recommend checking your transcript again next Thursday morning, as that's when Thursday cycle codes typically get their next update. Based on the timing patterns others have shared here, you should definitely have your refund well before your May 15th tuition deadline. Hang in there!

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AstroAlpha

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This is really helpful information! I'm actually in a similar situation - filed early March and have been obsessively checking my transcripts. The explanation about W2 info being on a separate transcript makes so much sense now. I was getting worried because I kept seeing people mention codes that weren't showing up on my account transcript. Question though - when you say "Thursday cycle codes typically get their next update," does that mean every Thursday or just specific Thursdays? I'm trying to figure out if I should be checking weekly or if there's a different pattern.

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Does anyone know if there's a penalty for submitting the W-8BEN late? I'm in a similar situation with Chase and just realized I never responded to their letter from 2 months ago...

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There's no specific penalty for late W-8BEN submission, but the bank will withhold 30% of any interest paid to you until they have a valid form on file. If you're eligible for a lower treaty rate, you'd need to file a tax return to reclaim the excess withholding.

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Dylan Cooper

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For students on F-1 visas, this is actually a really common mixup! Banks often don't train their staff well on the different tax forms for international students vs other account holders. Since you mentioned you opened the account in mid-March and are on a student visa, you're most likely a non-resident alien for tax purposes (assuming you've been in the US for less than 5 years). This means the W-8BEN was probably the correct form, but there might have been an error in how it was filled out. The good news is that for such a small amount of interest, any withholding issues are minimal. I'd recommend calling BOA's international banking department directly - they're usually much more knowledgeable about these forms than regular branch staff. Ask them specifically what was wrong with your original W-8BEN submission and whether you need to provide additional documentation beyond the passport copy. Don't stress too much about the timing - while 30 days is preferred, banks deal with late submissions all the time, especially for international students who might not be familiar with US banking requirements.

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This is really helpful advice! I'm also an international student and had no idea about the 5-year rule for F-1 visa holders. It makes sense why there's so much confusion at banks - they probably deal with people in all different visa situations but don't always know the specific tax implications. Quick question - if someone is in their first 5 years on F-1 status but also has income from on-campus work, does that change anything about needing the W-8BEN for bank accounts? I've been getting conflicting information about whether having any US income affects your non-resident alien status for banking purposes.

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As a newcomer to this community, I really appreciate how comprehensive and helpful this discussion has been! I'm dealing with a very similar situation - I earned $6.34 in interest from a high-yield savings account last year and was completely unsure whether such a small amount needed to be reported. Reading through everyone's explanations has made it absolutely clear that ALL interest income is taxable, regardless of amount. The key insight that helped me most was understanding that the $10 threshold only applies to banks' reporting requirements, not to our tax obligations as individuals. These are completely separate things that I was mistakenly linking together. What really convinced me was the point several people made about there being no "de minimis" exception in the tax code for small interest amounts. If lawmakers wanted to exempt tiny amounts, they would have written that into the law explicitly - but they didn't. The rule is simply that all taxable income must be reported, period. I also appreciated hearing about everyone's personal experiences with similar small amounts. It's reassuring to know that reporting these on Line 2b of Form 1040 is straightforward and that the peace of mind from complete compliance far outweighs the minimal tax impact (probably less than $2 in my case). This discussion perfectly shows why this community is so valuable - turning what seemed like a confusing gray area into a clear, confident path forward. I'll definitely be reporting my $6.34 and establishing good habits for proper tax compliance from the start!

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Jamal Brown

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Welcome to the community! I'm also fairly new here and just went through this exact same confusion with a tiny interest amount from my savings account. Your $6.34 situation is so relatable - I kept going back and forth on whether it was worth the hassle to report such a small amount. What really sealed the deal for me was when someone explained it as building good financial habits rather than just focusing on the immediate dollar impact. You're absolutely right that there's no "de minimis" exception - if there was supposed to be one, it would be clearly written in the tax code. I love how you framed it as establishing good habits from the start. That's such a healthy approach compared to trying to find ways to cut corners on small amounts. Plus, as your investments hopefully grow over time, you'll already have the right mindset in place for handling more complex situations. It's amazing how something that seems so simple on the surface - "do I report $6.34 in interest?" - can actually teach us so much about proper tax compliance and building good financial practices. Thanks for sharing your experience and adding to this incredibly helpful discussion!

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Esteban Tate

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As a newcomer to this community, I want to thank everyone for such a thorough and helpful discussion! I'm in the exact same situation with $8.73 from my Vanguard account, and this thread has completely cleared up my confusion. What really helped me understand this was the distinction everyone made between the bank's $10 reporting threshold (purely administrative) and our actual tax obligations as taxpayers (report ALL taxable income). I was incorrectly thinking these were connected, but they're completely separate requirements. The point about there being no "de minimis" exception in the tax code really resonated with me. If Congress wanted to exempt small interest amounts, they would have written that explicitly into the law - but they didn't. The rule is simply that all interest income is taxable, regardless of amount. I also appreciate everyone sharing their personal experiences with similar small amounts. It's reassuring to know that reporting this on Line 2b of Form 1040 is straightforward (no Schedule B needed under $1,500) and that the peace of mind from complete compliance is worth far more than the extra $2 or so in taxes. This discussion perfectly demonstrates why this community is so valuable - taking what seemed like a confusing gray area and providing clear guidance through shared knowledge and experience. I'm definitely reporting my $8.73 and establishing good tax compliance habits from the start!

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Welcome to the community! I'm also new here and just dealt with this exact same situation a few weeks ago with $9.27 in interest from my savings account. Your experience really mirrors what I went through - that initial confusion about whether the $10 threshold meant anything for us as taxpayers. What finally clicked for me was realizing that tax law doesn't care about the bank's administrative convenience. The $10 rule exists to reduce paperwork burden on financial institutions, but our legal obligation to report taxable income is completely separate from that. Once I understood that distinction, everything became so much clearer. I really appreciate how you emphasized building good tax compliance habits from the start. That's exactly the mindset I'm trying to adopt too - rather than looking for ways to justify not reporting small amounts, just accept that thoroughness is always the better approach. The extra couple dollars in taxes is such a small price to pay for complete peace of mind. Your point about this community turning confusing gray areas into clear guidance is spot on. This whole discussion has been incredibly educational and reassuring for those of us dealing with these "small but important" tax questions. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's great to see how these conversations help multiple newcomers work through the same issues!

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