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Louisa Ramirez

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Dont overthink this. Calculate taxable amount as: Box 1 minus (Box 9a divided by life expectancy from IRS tables) I been doing this for 8 years on my federal disability. Your tax guy is making it more complicated then it is. The UNKNOWN is just OPM being lazy and making us do the math ourselves.

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TommyKapitz

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Which IRS table should be used though? There seem to be different ones in Publication 575 and I'm not sure if I should use the single life expectancy or joint with survivor benefit.

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Freya Collins

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Since the original post mentioned the annuity includes a survivor benefit option, you should use Table 2 (Joint Life and Last Survivor Expectancy) from Publication 575. You'll need both your husband's age and your age when the annuity payments started to find the correct number of expected payments. This gives you a more accurate calculation than using the single life table since the survivor benefit affects the total expected payout period.

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Ryder Ross

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I've been dealing with FERS disability taxes for several years now, and I wanted to add some clarity to the excellent advice already given here. The key thing to understand is that "UNKNOWN" in box 2a doesn't mean there's an error - it's actually standard practice for OPM-issued 1099-Rs. Here's what I've learned through experience and consultation with tax professionals: 1. You absolutely need to use the Simplified Method Worksheet from Publication 575 2. Since your husband has a survivor benefit, use Table 2 (Joint Life expectancy) 3. The calculation is: Gross Distribution (Box 1) minus your annual exclusion amount 4. Annual exclusion = (Total contributions in Box 9a) รท (expected payments from IRS table) One important point I haven't seen mentioned: make sure you're using your husband's age when the disability payments STARTED, not his current age. This affects which row you use in the life expectancy table. Also, keep detailed records of these calculations because you'll need to track how much of the total contributions you've already recovered tax-free in previous years. Once you've recovered the full $6,500, all future payments become fully taxable. The insurance premiums in box 5 are separate and may qualify for medical expense deductions if you itemize, but they don't affect the taxable amount calculation itself.

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Aisha Abdullah

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Great advice from everyone here! Just wanted to add one more thing that saved me a lot of headaches last year. If you're dealing with multiple online casinos and trying to track all your deposits and withdrawals, check if your bank offers year-end summaries or transaction categorization. I called my bank and they were able to provide me with a detailed report of all transactions to gambling sites throughout the year. This was super helpful because it showed not just my deposits but also my withdrawals, which helped me piece together my actual losses versus just money I moved around. Also, for future reference, many online casinos will let you set up automatic win/loss tracking in your account settings if you look around. I wish I had known this earlier! Now I have detailed records for this tax year that will make things much easier. @Jamal - definitely don't report just the net amount. Report the full $8,700 from your 1099-MISC and keep those bank statements and screenshots organized in case you need them later. Even if you can't deduct the losses this year, having good records protects you if there are ever questions about your return.

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This is such helpful advice about getting bank summaries! I never thought to ask my bank for transaction categorization. That would make tracking so much easier than going through months of statements manually. @Aisha - Do you know if most major banks offer this kind of detailed reporting, or is it something only certain banks do? I bank with Chase and I'm wondering if they have something similar available. Also, the tip about setting up automatic win/loss tracking in casino account settings is gold. I'm definitely going to look for that option on my sites. It's crazy how much easier this whole process could be with just a little advance planning!

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StarSeeker

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@Jamal - I went through almost the exact same situation last year! Had about $7,200 in winnings from an online poker site but around $4,800 in losses throughout the year. Here's what I learned: You absolutely must report the full $8,700 from your 1099-MISC - don't even think about reporting just the net. The IRS already has that 1099 on file and your return needs to match. For your documentation, those bank statements showing deposits are actually pretty good evidence, especially combined with your screenshots. I was worried my records weren't perfect either, but my tax preparer said the IRS understands that online gambling doesn't always provide the same level of documentation as brick-and-mortar casinos. One thing that really helped me was creating a simple spreadsheet with dates, deposit amounts, and any screenshots I had. It made everything look more organized and professional. Since you usually take the standard deduction, run the numbers both ways. In my case, even with $4,800 in losses, I was still better off with the standard deduction because I didn't have enough other itemizable expenses. But definitely keep all those loss records - you never know when you might need them! The IRS isn't out to get you as long as you're reporting honestly and have reasonable documentation for your positions. You've got this!

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@StarSeeker This is really reassuring to hear from someone who went through basically the same situation! Your advice about creating a spreadsheet is brilliant - I never thought about organizing it that way but it makes total sense that it would look more professional and organized. I'm definitely going to follow your lead on running the numbers both ways to see if itemizing makes sense. From what everyone's saying, it sounds like most people in our situation end up better off with the standard deduction anyway, but it's worth checking. Thanks for the reminder that the IRS isn't trying to trap people who are making good faith efforts to report correctly. Sometimes it feels overwhelming when you're dealing with this stuff for the first time, but hearing success stories like yours helps a lot! @Jamal - Just echoing what StarSeeker said about keeping those records organized even if you can't deduct the losses. Better safe than sorry if any questions come up later.

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Sadie Benitez

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Great question! I went through this same confusion when I hit 73 last year. As others have confirmed, RMDs are definitely taxed as ordinary income - so you'd pay that 12% rate, not the 15% capital gains rate. One thing that really helped me was setting up automatic tax withholding on my RMDs. Since you mentioned you're budget planning, I'd suggest having your IRA custodian withhold taxes directly from the distribution - maybe start with 15% to be safe since your RMD will add to your other income and could potentially bump you up a bracket. You can always adjust the withholding percentage for future years once you see how it affects your overall tax situation. Also, don't forget to factor in state taxes if your state has income tax. The withholding approach saved me from having to make quarterly estimated payments and worrying about underpayment penalties.

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Ethan Brown

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This is really solid advice about the withholding strategy! I'm just starting to think about RMDs myself (turning 73 next year) and hadn't considered the automatic tax withholding approach. That seems much simpler than trying to calculate quarterly estimated payments. Quick question - when you say start with 15% withholding to be safe, is that something you can easily adjust throughout the year if needed, or do you have to wait until the next year's RMDs to change it? I'm trying to figure out how flexible these arrangements are in case my income situation changes during the year.

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Liam Mendez

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You can typically adjust your withholding percentage during the year, but the specifics depend on your IRA custodian's policies. Most major brokerages like Fidelity, Vanguard, and Schwab allow you to change withholding amounts online or with a simple phone call. Some let you adjust it for each distribution if you take monthly or quarterly RMDs, while others apply the percentage you set to all distributions for that calendar year until you change it. I'd recommend calling your IRA custodian to ask about their specific process - it's usually pretty straightforward. The flexibility is definitely helpful since your tax situation can change throughout the year with other income sources, deductions, etc.

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One thing I'd add that might be helpful for your planning - since you mentioned you're 73 and this is your first RMD year, make sure you're aware of the timing rules. You actually have until April 1st of the year after you turn 73 to take your first RMD (so April 1, 2025 for you). However, if you wait until next year to take your first RMD, you'll also have to take your second RMD by December 31, 2025, which could push you into a higher tax bracket for that year since you'd be taking two distributions in one tax year. Most people find it better to take their first RMD before December 31st of their first RMD year to spread the tax impact over two years instead of bunching it all into one year. Given that you're in the 12% bracket now, this timing strategy could help you stay in that lower bracket for both years rather than potentially jumping up to 22% if you take both distributions in 2025.

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Donna Cline

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Someone mentioned this above, but it's worth emphasizing: INTENT is absolutely critical in how these contributions are treated. If you're audited, the IRS will look at whether the transaction was intended as a loan from the beginning. If there's no documentation, no interest, no repayment schedule, and no actual repayments being made, they'll likely recharacterize it as a capital contribution regardless of how you reported it. One approach I've seen work well: Do a combo where part is clearly designated as a capital contribution (perhaps the proportional amounts based on ownership) and the excess is structured as a formal loan with proper documentation, reasonable interest, and an actual repayment schedule that you follow.

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Harper Collins

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Would an email between the shareholders discussing the loan terms count as documentation? We didn't do formal paperwork, but we did email about repayment expectations.

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Charlee Coleman

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As someone who went through a similar situation with my S-Corp, I'd recommend being very careful about retroactively creating loan documentation without contemporaneous evidence of loan intent. The IRS looks for substance over form. In your case, since you have $30,700 from the 51% owner and $1,800 from the 49% owner, one clean approach might be to treat the first $16,575 from the majority owner as a capital contribution (proportional to their 51% ownership of the total $32,500), and document the remaining $14,125 as a shareholder loan with proper terms going forward. This way you have a reasonable business justification for the split - the proportional part as equity investment, and the excess as debt financing. Just make sure any loan documentation includes a realistic repayment schedule that you actually intend to follow, market-rate interest, and treat it like a real loan with regular payments when cash flow allows. The key is being able to demonstrate genuine loan characteristics from this point forward, not just having a piece of paper that says "loan" without the substance to back it up.

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Mei Lin

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This is really helpful advice! I like the approach of splitting it proportionally - treating $16,575 as capital contribution and $14,125 as a loan makes a lot of business sense and would be easier to defend if questioned. Just to clarify - when you say "market-rate interest," what would be considered reasonable for an S-Corp shareholder loan right now? I want to make sure we're not setting ourselves up for problems by using a rate that's too low or too high. Also, should we be making interest payments even if the company isn't profitable yet, or can we structure it so interest accrues until we have positive cash flow?

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Ezra Collins

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I'm surprised nobody's mentioned this yet - having a negative basis of -50k when your profit/loss/capital percentages are all 16.8% suggests the partnership as a whole might have done a significant refinancing or cash-out refi and distributed proceeds to partners. That's a common way basis goes negative while capital accounts stay positive. Do you remember receiving any large distributions in the past few years? Partnership refinances often create exactly this situation - your capital account stays intact for book purposes but your basis gets reduced by the distributions.

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Emma Davis

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This is actually a really common situation that trips up a lot of partnership investors. The key thing to understand is that your capital account and your outside basis serve completely different purposes and are calculated using different rules. Your capital account (the 120k on your K-1) is like your "book value" share of the partnership - it's what you'd theoretically get if the partnership liquidated everything at book value today. Your outside basis (the -50k your CPA mentioned) is your tax basis in the partnership interest, which determines things like how much loss you can deduct and what happens when you sell or receive distributions. The reason your basis went negative while your capital account stayed positive is likely due to cash distributions you received over the years that exceeded your initial investment plus your share of partnership income. When you receive distributions, they reduce your basis dollar-for-dollar but don't necessarily reduce your capital account the same way. Given that you have 63k in partnership liabilities allocated to you (6k + 57k), your actual "at-risk" basis for loss limitation purposes would be your -50k basis plus the 63k in liabilities, which gives you 13k of basis to absorb losses. This is why tracking partnership basis gets so complex - there are multiple layers of limitations and calculations. I'd strongly recommend getting a detailed basis calculation from your partnership's tax preparer (not just your personal CPA) showing how you got to -50k. You have a right to that information as a partner.

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Mateo Rodriguez

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This is such a clear explanation, thank you! I think you're right about the distributions - looking back at my records, I did receive some pretty large cash distributions over the past few years that I didn't really think about from a tax basis perspective. I was just happy to get the money! The part about the 63k in liabilities giving me 13k of "at-risk" basis is really helpful. Does that mean I can still deduct up to 13k in losses this year, or are there other limitations I should be worried about? And when you say I have a right to the basis calculation from the partnership's tax preparer - is that something I can demand even if my personal CPA doesn't want to ask for it?

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