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Has anyone used TurboTax for reporting trader status? Their interface is confusing me when I try to enter these platform fees as business expenses.

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TurboTax isn't great for trader status. You need to create a Schedule C as if trading is your business, but be careful not to include the actual trades there (those still go on Schedule D). Only your expenses like platform fees, education, office, etc go on Schedule C. I switched to a professional preparer because TurboTax kept giving me errors.

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Emma Johnson

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@Sean Matthews is right about TurboTax being tricky for trader status. I had the same issue last year. The key is to NOT put your actual stock trades on Schedule C - those always go on Schedule D or 8949. Only the business expenses like platform fees, data subscriptions, trading education, home office allocation, etc. go on Schedule C. In TurboTax, you ll'need to start a Business "section" and create a sole proprietorship for your trading business. Then under business expenses, you can categorize things like your ThinkorSwim platform fees under Other "Business Expenses or" Software/Subscriptions. "Just" make sure you have good records showing you actually qualify for trader status based on frequency and holding periods. If TurboTax keeps flagging errors, it might be worth the extra cost to use a tax pro who understands trader tax elections. The software isn t'really designed for this more complex scenario.

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Emma Olsen

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Maya, I went through the exact same situation with similar commission amounts last year. Here's what I learned after digging deep into this: 1. **Trading commissions** - These are already baked into your cost basis on your 1099-B forms. When you buy stock for $1000 with a $5 commission, your cost basis is reported as $1005. When you sell for $1200 with another $5 commission, proceeds show as $1195. So those per-trade fees are already handled. 2. **Platform subscription fees** - These are the tricky ones. Your monthly ThinkorSwim fees, data packages, or premium features aren't included in cost basis calculations. Under current tax law (post-2017), these generally can't be deducted as miscellaneous itemized deductions. 3. **The trader status exception** - If you qualify as a "trader" rather than an "investor" in the IRS's eyes, you can deduct platform fees as business expenses on Schedule C. The requirements are strict: frequent trading (think hundreds of trades), short holding periods (days/weeks not months), and substantial time commitment to trading activities. With $25k in total fees, it's definitely worth having a tax professional review your situation. They can help determine if you might qualify for trader status and ensure you're not missing any legitimate deductions while staying compliant with IRS rules.

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Mateo Silva

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This is super helpful Emma! I'm curious about the "substantial time commitment" requirement for trader status. What does the IRS actually consider substantial? I probably spend 3-4 hours a day researching and executing trades, but I also have a full-time job. Does having other employment automatically disqualify you from trader status, or is it more about the actual hours you can document?

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Nia Davis

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I've been dealing with similar concerns about my CK Spend account! From everything I've read here and experienced myself, the app is definitely not reliable for showing closure notifications. What I ended up doing was setting up email filters specifically for Credit Karma messages so nothing gets lost in spam, and I do a small test transfer ($1-2) every couple weeks to make sure the account is still functional. One thing I'd add - if you're really worried, you might want to call their customer service directly to confirm your account status. Yes, the wait times can be brutal, but getting confirmation straight from them might give you the peace of mind you need. Just be prepared to spend some time on hold! Given all the uncertainty with the Intuit acquisition and the account closures people are reporting, I'd honestly recommend moving most of your funds out ASAP and just using CK Spend as a temporary spot for your refund. The stress of wondering "what if" just isn't worth it when there are so many reliable alternatives out there.

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Emma Johnson

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This is really helpful! The email filter idea is genius - I never thought of that but it would definitely prevent important notifications from getting buried. And you're right about calling customer service directly, even if the wait is annoying. At least then I'd know for sure instead of constantly worrying. I think I'm going to follow everyone's advice here and start moving my money out this week. The peace of mind is definitely worth more than any potential convenience of keeping it all in CK Spend. Thanks for sharing your approach - it's given me a good game plan to follow!

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Miguel Ortiz

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I've been through this exact same worry! The app definitely doesn't give you clear notification if your account gets closed. When mine was restricted (not fully closed, but similar situation), everything looked totally normal in the app but I couldn't actually do anything - no transfers, no purchases, nothing worked even though it showed my balance. Here's what I learned: Credit Karma sends email notifications for closures, but they often get filtered into spam or promotions folders. The app can show "normal" status for days or even weeks after an account is actually closed. The only reliable way to know for sure is to test functionality - try a small transfer like $1-5 to another account. If it goes through, you're good. If it fails or gets stuck, that's your warning sign. Since your refund is coming next month, I'd honestly move most of your current balance out now while you know everything is working. Use CK Spend just as a temporary landing spot for the refund, then transfer it out immediately. I know it's an extra step, but with all the unpredictable closures happening, the peace of mind is worth it. You don't want to be stuck waiting weeks for a paper check when you need that money. Also set up email alerts/filters for Credit Karma messages so nothing gets missed. Better to be overly cautious with this situation!

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11 Random tip: make sure you're also tracking any leftover GoFundMe money if you didn't use it all for medical expenses. If you use the extra for non-medical purposes, that doesn't change the gift status, but it might affect your medical expense deduction calculations.

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3 That's a smart point. I was wondering about that since medical expenses are only deductible if you itemize and exceed that 7.5% of AGI threshold, right? So if you received $32,500 but only had $29,000 in qualifying expenses, you can't claim the full amount?

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Ava Garcia

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Exactly right! You can only deduct the actual medical expenses you paid, not the full amount received from GoFundMe. So in your case, you'd be looking at deducting up to $29,000 in medical expenses (if you itemize and exceed the 7.5% AGI threshold), regardless of receiving $32,500 total. The extra $3,500 is still considered a gift and not taxable to you, but it doesn't create additional medical deductions since you didn't spend it on qualifying medical expenses.

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Just to clarify one more important point - while the GoFundMe money is considered gifts and not taxable income to you, make sure you keep detailed records of how you used the funds. The IRS may want to see that the money was actually used for the stated medical purpose if there are ever any questions. Also, don't forget that you can potentially deduct medical expenses that you paid out of pocket beyond what the GoFundMe covered. If you had additional medical costs related to your TMJ treatment that weren't covered by the campaign funds, those could still count toward your medical expense deduction if you itemize and meet the 7.5% AGI threshold. Keep all your medical bills, insurance statements, and GoFundMe records organized together - it'll make things much easier if you ever need to reference them later!

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Natalie Wang

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This is really helpful advice! I'm actually in a similar situation with medical crowdfunding and had no idea about keeping such detailed records of how the funds were used. Do you recommend any specific way to organize all these documents? Like should I create a separate folder for GoFundMe records vs medical bills, or keep them all together chronologically? I want to make sure I'm prepared if the IRS ever has questions about it.

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Ravi Malhotra

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I've been lurking in this community for a while but finally decided to jump in with a question. Reading through this thread has been incredibly enlightening! I'm in a similar situation to the original poster - first time really diving into my own taxes after having them done professionally for years. One thing that's still confusing me: I see everyone mentioning the standard deduction of $13,850 for single filers, but I'm married filing jointly. My spouse and I have a combined gross income of about $145k, and we've been trying to figure out whether to itemize or take the standard deduction. We have about $19k in potential itemized deductions (mortgage interest, state taxes, charitable donations), but I keep seeing different numbers for what the standard deduction is for married couples. Can someone clarify what the standard deduction amount is for married filing jointly in 2025? And based on what everyone's shared here about using gross income as the starting point, would our calculation be: $145k gross - $27,700 standard deduction (if that's the right number) = $117,300 taxable income? Or should we itemize since our deductions are lower than what I think the standard deduction is? Also, this whole thread about gross vs. net income really opened my eyes to why our tax software always asks for W-2 box numbers instead of letting us just enter our take-home pay. It all makes so much more sense now!

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Saleem Vaziri

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Welcome to the discussion! You're right that the standard deduction for married filing jointly in 2025 is $27,700. So your calculation would be: $145k gross income - $27,700 standard deduction = $117,300 taxable income. Since your itemized deductions are only about $19k, you'd definitely want to take the standard deduction instead - it's $8,700 more beneficial for you! The rule is simple: take whichever deduction (standard or itemized) gives you the larger amount. Your math is exactly right about how the gross income system works. And yes, that's exactly why tax software asks for specific W-2 box numbers rather than letting you enter take-home pay - it ensures everyone starts from the same baseline. It sounds like you've really grasped the concepts discussed in this thread! One thing to keep in mind with your combined income is that you'll likely be in a higher tax bracket, so make sure you're having enough withheld throughout the year or consider making quarterly estimated payments if needed.

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Great to have you join the conversation! Just wanted to add a tip that might help with your situation - even though you should definitely take the standard deduction this year since it's higher than your itemized amount, keep track of those itemized expenses anyway. Tax laws change, and the standard deduction amounts can shift from year to year. Plus, if you have any major expenses next year (like significant medical bills, more charitable giving, or higher state taxes), you might cross the threshold where itemizing becomes beneficial. Also, since you mentioned this is your first time doing your own taxes after using a professional - don't hesitate to use tax software that can double-check your work. With your income level and the fact that you're married filing jointly, there might be other deductions or credits you're eligible for that weren't covered in this gross vs. net income discussion. Things like retirement account contributions, education credits, or child tax credits can make a big difference in your final tax situation. The foundation you've learned here about starting with gross income and understanding how deductions work will serve you well as you navigate the rest of your return!

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This whole discussion has been a goldmine of information! As someone who's been doing their own taxes for a few years but still gets confused by some concepts, the explanations about gross vs. net income really clicked for me. I wanted to share something that might help other newcomers: I used to get frustrated when my calculated refund didn't match what I expected, and it was because I was mentally mixing up the concepts discussed here. I'd look at how much was withheld from my paychecks throughout the year and think "that's a lot of money, so my refund should be big" - but I wasn't considering that those withholdings were supposed to cover my actual tax liability. The key insight for me was understanding that withholdings are just prepayments. If your withholdings closely match what you actually owe in taxes, your refund will be small (which is actually good - it means you weren't giving the government an interest-free loan all year). A huge refund usually means you had way too much withheld. For anyone just starting out with taxes, I'd recommend focusing on getting these foundational concepts right before worrying about more advanced strategies. Understanding gross vs. net income, how deductions work, and why withholdings are separate from your tax calculation will make everything else much clearer.

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Thais Soares

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I went through something very similar when I got promoted at Amazon last year! The key thing to understand is that your refund isn't actually "your money" - it's just the amount you overpaid in taxes throughout the year. When Amazon's payroll system calculated your withholding more accurately with your higher income, you ended up keeping more of your actual earnings in each paycheck instead of giving the IRS an interest-free loan. Here's what probably happened: at $36k, you were likely in the 12% tax bracket, and Amazon was withholding conservatively. At $49k, you're still mostly in the 12% bracket but closer to the 22% threshold, so the withholding algorithm got more precise. This is actually GOOD for your finances - you had access to more of your money throughout the year. To verify this, look at Box 2 (Federal income tax withheld) on both W-2s. I bet this year's withholding didn't increase proportionally to your income increase. You basically got your "refund" spread across 26 paychecks instead of one lump sum. If you prefer getting a bigger refund next year, you can submit a new W-4 and use line 4c to request additional withholding - maybe $30-40 per paycheck to get back to that $800 range you're used to.

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Jamal Harris

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This explanation really helps clarify what's happening! I never understood that the refund was basically my own overpayment being returned to me. It makes so much more sense now why a smaller refund could actually be a good thing financially. I'm definitely going to compare my W-2 Box 2 numbers from both years like you suggested. And honestly, thinking about it now, I probably did have a bit more money in each paycheck this year but didn't really notice since it was spread out. The psychological impact of expecting that big refund check is real though! I think I'll try the automatic savings approach that someone else mentioned first, but it's good to know about the W-4 line 4c option if I decide I want to go back to getting a larger refund. Thanks for breaking this down in a way that actually makes sense - wish someone had explained this to me when I first started working at Amazon!

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I completely understand your frustration - this same thing happened to me when I transferred from a different fulfillment center and my income jumped! The shock of expecting one amount and getting something totally different is real. One thing I'd add to all the great advice here is to also check if Amazon changed how they're handling your shift differentials or peak season pay. When I moved from nights to days, I lost the shift differential but didn't realize how that affected my withholding calculations throughout the year. Same thing can happen if you were getting peak pay last year that you didn't get this year, or vice versa. Also, if you're like me and were really counting on that refund money, consider setting up a separate savings account and having Amazon direct deposit a small amount from each paycheck into it. I do $35 per check and it basically recreates that "windfall" feeling when I need it for big expenses, except I'm earning a tiny bit of interest on it instead of giving the government a free loan. The hardest part is adjusting your mental budgeting, but once you realize you've actually been getting more money all year long, it starts to feel less like you got ripped off and more like the system is finally working better for you!

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