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Anyone know if these ticket sales count toward the threshold where you need to make estimated tax payments? I normally just get a W-2 but sold about $8k in tickets last year and made like $1500 profit.
For anyone still confused about this, I just want to clarify the key points since there's some conflicting advice in this thread: 1. You MUST report the full 1099-K amount as gross income - don't just report the net profit like one commenter suggested. The IRS computer systems automatically match 1099-K forms to tax returns, and reporting only the net will trigger a notice. 2. Whether you use Schedule C or Schedule 1 depends on your intent and frequency. If you bought tickets specifically to resell for profit or do this regularly, it's a business (Schedule C). If you're just selling tickets you can't use occasionally, it's hobby income (Schedule 1, Line 8i). 3. You can deduct BOTH your original ticket costs AND the platform fees. The 1099-K shows gross payments before StubHub's fees were deducted, so you're not double-counting anything. 4. Keep good records! Save your original purchase confirmations, credit card statements, and any communications about the sales. The IRS may ask for documentation. The software tools mentioned here (taxr.ai) seem helpful for organizing everything, but make sure you understand the fundamentals so you can verify the results make sense.
Thank you so much for this clear breakdown! This is exactly what I needed to hear. I was getting really confused by all the different advice, especially about whether to report gross vs net. One follow-up question - you mentioned keeping records of communications about the sales. What kind of communications are important? I have my StubHub sale confirmations and the original ticket purchase emails, but is there anything else I should be documenting for potential IRS questions? Also, since this was truly a one-time thing for me (sold tickets to a concert I couldn't attend anymore), I'm assuming Schedule 1 is the right approach rather than Schedule C?
Congratulations on the pregnancy! You're absolutely right that you can update your W4 in January for a baby expected in June. The IRS looks at your tax situation as of December 31st, so as long as your child is born in 2025, you'll qualify for the full child tax credit. One thing I'd suggest is using the IRS W4 calculator on their website to help you figure out the exact adjustment. It's free and walks you through all the scenarios. Just make sure to account for any unpaid parental leave you might take - that reduced income could affect your overall tax situation. Also, don't forget you'll need to get a Social Security number for your baby pretty quickly after birth to claim them on your taxes. The hospital usually provides the paperwork, but it can take a few weeks to process. Good luck with everything!
Thanks for mentioning the IRS W4 calculator! I've been trying to figure out the best approach for my situation and wasn't sure if I should trust third-party tools or stick with official resources. Quick question - does the IRS calculator handle situations where you have multiple life changes happening in the same year? I'm expecting in September but also got married last month, so I'm wondering if it can factor in both the new dependent and the change in filing status.
Yes, the IRS W4 calculator can absolutely handle multiple life changes in the same year! It's actually designed specifically for situations like yours. When you go through it, you'll enter your current filing status (married) and then it has sections where you can add dependents you expect to have during the tax year (your September baby). The calculator will factor in both changes - the marriage (which affects your tax brackets and standard deduction) and the expected child (for the child tax credit). Just make sure when you're entering information that you select "married filing jointly" as your status and add one dependent in the children section, even though the baby hasn't arrived yet. It's definitely more reliable than trying to figure out the math yourself when you have multiple changes happening. The calculator updates annually too, so it reflects the current year's tax rules and credit amounts.
This is great advice everyone has shared! I'm in a similar boat - expecting in August and trying to optimize our withholding. One thing I'd add from my research is to also consider if either parent's employer offers dependent care FSA (flexible spending account) benefits. You can typically elect this during open enrollment or after a qualifying life event like having a baby. If you're planning to use childcare after your parental leave, you can set aside up to $5,000 pre-tax annually for dependent care expenses. This won't affect your W4 directly, but it's another way to reduce your overall tax burden for the year. Also, for those mentioning unpaid leave - some states have paid family leave programs that might affect your income calculations differently than unpaid FMLA. Worth checking what your state offers since that could impact how much you want to adjust your withholding. Henry, sounds like you've got a solid plan! Just make sure to revisit your withholding after the baby arrives and you have a better sense of your actual childcare costs and any other changes to your financial situation.
This is such helpful additional information! I hadn't even thought about the dependent care FSA angle. Quick question about the state paid family leave programs - do you know if those benefits are taxable? I'm in California and know we have state disability insurance, but I'm not sure if that would be treated differently than regular wages for tax withholding purposes. If the state benefits are taxable, I assume that would mean I need to be more conservative with my W4 adjustment since I'd have additional taxable income from the state program during my leave period.
Just wanted to chime in as someone who went through a very similar situation last year. We had foundation issues discovered during inspection that cost us $22k to fix, and the buyer also backed out afterward. Like you, we were worried about timing and whether we could still count it toward our basis since it took several months to find another buyer. The good news is that everyone here is absolutely right - there's no 90-day rule for this type of situation. The IRS considers the timing to be when you owned the property and when the work was completed, not when you actually close on the sale. We ended up being able to add the full foundation repair cost to our basis even though it was 5 months between the repair and our eventual closing. One thing that really helped us was organizing all the documentation chronologically - the inspection report, estimates, invoices, proof of payment, and even correspondence with contractors. Our tax preparer said having everything well-documented made it much easier to justify the basis adjustment. Mold remediation definitely qualifies as a capital improvement since it addresses a health/safety issue and adds value to the property. Keep all those receipts - that $27k isn't lost money from a tax perspective!
That's really helpful to hear from someone who went through almost the exact same situation! Foundation issues and mold problems are both those expensive surprises that nobody wants to deal with during a sale, but at least the tax treatment is consistent. I love your suggestion about organizing everything chronologically - that's such a practical way to present the documentation if we ever need to justify the basis adjustment. We have all the pieces (inspection report, contractor estimates, invoices, payment confirmations) but hadn't thought about arranging them in timeline order to tell the complete story. It's also reassuring to know that 5 months between repair and closing worked out fine for your situation. We were at 4 months and kept second-guessing ourselves about whether we'd missed some deadline. These kinds of major repairs during a sale process just seem to drag everything out, but it sounds like that's totally normal and doesn't affect the tax implications. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's exactly the kind of real-world example that helps put things in perspective!
This thread has been incredibly helpful! As a tax professional, I want to emphasize a few key points that have been correctly identified here: 1. There is absolutely no "90-day rule" for capital improvements when selling your primary residence. That timing restriction simply doesn't exist in the tax code for this situation. 2. Your $27k mold remediation is definitely a capital improvement that gets added to your home's basis, regardless of the 4-month gap between the work and closing. The IRS cares that you owned the property when the work was done and that it was completed before the sale - not about the specific timing between completion and closing. 3. Since this was remediation work identified through an inspection (health/safety issue), it clearly qualifies as adding value and extending the useful life of the property, which are the hallmarks of a capital improvement versus a repair. 4. With your primary residence exclusion ($500k for married filing jointly), you're likely in great shape tax-wise anyway, but having that $27k properly documented in your basis is still valuable. The most important thing now is keeping all that documentation organized - inspection report, estimates, invoices, proof of payment. You handled a difficult situation well, and from a tax perspective, everything is straightforward. That expensive mold remediation wasn't just money down the drain!
This is exactly the kind of professional confirmation I was hoping to see! As someone new to homeownership and dealing with taxes, all the conflicting information online about various timing rules and deadlines had me really confused. It's such a relief to hear from a tax professional that there really isn't a 90-day rule for this situation. The point about the inspection report being key documentation makes a lot of sense too. Having that third-party professional assessment showing the mold was a legitimate health/safety concern that needed addressing should definitely help establish this as a necessary capital improvement rather than optional work. I'm curious though - when you mention keeping documentation organized, are there any specific forms or schedules we should be prepared to file when we do our taxes next year? Or is this more about having the records available in case of questions/audit? Thanks for taking the time to provide professional insight on this thread. It's been incredibly valuable for understanding how to handle this situation properly!
Don't forget to keep copies of EVERYTHING and proof of mailing! I made the mistake of not keeping good records when I mailed multiple returns last year. The IRS lost one of my returns, and I had to resend it. Now I scan all returns before mailing and get a certificate of mailing from the post office for each envelope (cheaper than certified mail but still gives you proof).
This is so important. The IRS lost my 2021 return twice! I now take pictures of the sealed, addressed envelopes next to the post office receipt. Seems excessive but after what I went through, I'm not taking chances anymore.
Adding to what everyone else has said about mailing separately - I work as a tax preparer and can confirm that separate envelopes is definitely the way to go. The IRS processing centers have different workflows for different tax years, and mixing them up can cause delays. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is to make sure you're using the correct mailing address for each tax year. The IRS sometimes changes processing center addresses between years, so double-check the instructions for 2022 vs 2023 returns. Also, if you owe money on both years, consider which one to prioritize if you can't pay both at once - generally you want to pay the older year first since penalties and interest accumulate longer on those. Good luck getting caught up! Don't stress too much - the IRS deals with late returns all the time.
This is really helpful advice about checking the mailing addresses for each year! I didn't realize they could change between tax years. Quick question - if I can't afford to pay both years at once, should I still file both returns or wait until I can pay? I'm worried about additional penalties for not filing, but also don't want to get hit with failure-to-pay penalties on both years simultaneously.
Amara Adeyemi
What about cash expenses for business? I sometimes pay day laborers in cash for help with my landscaping business - how do I prove these are legitimate?
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Giovanni Gallo
ā¢For cash payments, you need to create your own receipt system. I have a receipt book where I write the person's name, date, amount paid, and what work they did. Then have them sign it. I also track ATM withdrawals that match these payments. It's not perfect but it creates a paper trail.
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Eloise Kendrick
Great thread! As someone who went through my first business tax filing this year, I learned the hard way that organization is EVERYTHING. The IRS basically expects you to be able to prove every single deduction you claim. One thing that really helped me was setting up a simple system from day one: I use a dedicated business checking account, immediately photograph receipts with my phone, and keep a simple spreadsheet noting the business purpose of each expense. Even small purchases like office supplies get documented. The key insight I had is that the IRS isn't necessarily looking to catch you doing something wrong - they just want to see that you're being reasonable and keeping proper records. If you can show clear business purpose and have documentation to back it up, you're usually fine. For anyone just starting out like the original poster, my advice is to err on the side of over-documenting rather than under-documenting. It's way easier to establish good habits from the beginning than to try to reconstruct everything later if you get audited.
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Victoria Brown
ā¢This is exactly the kind of advice I needed to hear! I'm also in my first year of business tax filing and feeling overwhelmed by all the documentation requirements. Your point about over-documenting really resonates - I've been worried about going overboard with record keeping, but it sounds like that's actually the safer approach. Quick question: for the spreadsheet you mentioned, do you track anything beyond just the business purpose? Like do you note the category of expense (office supplies, travel, etc.) or is that overkill?
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