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This is such a common and frustrating issue! Code 898 means the Treasury Offset Program has taken part of your refund to pay a debt you owe to another government agency (not the IRS). The debt could be from state taxes, unemployment overpayments, defaulted student loans, child support, or even old medical bills that went to collections. Your first step is definitely calling the Treasury Offset Program at 800-304-3107 with your SSN ready. They can tell you exactly which agency claimed the money and provide their contact information. Be prepared for long hold times, but this is the only way to find out what specific debt triggered the offset. What's particularly frustrating is that they can take your refund without any advance notice - you just discover it when your refund is smaller than expected. But once you know which agency is involved, you can contact them directly to either dispute the debt if you believe it's an error, or work out a payment plan if it's legitimate. Given the timing and amount, this could very well be related to unemployment benefits from the COVID era, as many states are now going back and auditing those claims years later. Don't lose hope though - even legitimate debts can often be resolved through payment plans or dispute processes. The key is identifying exactly what this is for first!
I'm really sorry you're going through this - it's such a stressful situation when your refund gets reduced without warning! Code 898 definitely means the Treasury Offset Program has intercepted part of your refund for a non-IRS debt. Everyone here has given you great advice about calling 800-304-3107 - that's absolutely your best first step. When you call, make sure to ask for: - The exact name of the agency that claimed the debt - Their direct contact information - The original debt amount vs. what was actually offset - The date the debt was referred to the offset program Given that you mentioned getting unemployment briefly in 2020, there's a good chance this could be related to that. A lot of states are going back now and auditing COVID-era unemployment claims, sometimes deciding people weren't eligible for benefits they already approved and paid out years ago. It's incredibly unfair that they can do this without any advance notice. Even if the debt turns out to be legitimate, don't give up! Most agencies will work with you on payment plans, and you absolutely have the right to request documentation proving the debt is valid. Sometimes these offsets happen due to system errors or debts that have already been resolved. The whole process is designed to be confusing, but you've got this! Keep us updated on what you find out.
I'm going through this exact same nightmare right now! Just received my LTR 2645 C letter this morning and had that immediate sinking feeling in my stomach, especially since we already received our refund back in February ($2,018). This entire thread has been absolutely invaluable - I had no idea this was such a widespread issue affecting so many taxpayers! Before stumbling across this discussion, I was convinced we had made some major error on our return or that the IRS was going to demand their refund back with penalties. It's honestly infuriating that in 2025, the IRS can have sophisticated systems that successfully process millions of returns and distribute refunds accurately, but then can't manage basic coordination between their own internal systems. How do you approve a return, send out the refund, but then weeks later have a completely separate system sending letters saying the return needs additional review? It's like the left hand has no idea what the right hand is doing. Reading through all the successful call experiences shared by both taxpayers and tax professionals here, I'm definitely calling first thing tomorrow morning using the direct number on the letter. It's frustrating that we have to spend our valuable time cleaning up their system glitches, but at least now I know exactly what to expect and that the agents are very familiar with this widespread coordination failure. Thank you so much to everyone who took the time to share their experiences and outcomes - this community has been infinitely more helpful than anything available on official IRS resources. It really demonstrates how powerful community support can be when dealing with government system failures!
I just joined this community after getting my own LTR 2645 C letter yesterday and I'm so grateful to have found this thread! Like everyone else here, I was completely freaked out even though I already received my refund last month ($1,652). Reading through all these experiences has been such a relief - it's clear this is a massive IRS system coordination failure affecting thousands of people rather than individual tax issues. The fact that their refund processing works perfectly but their notification system is completely out of sync is just embarrassing for a government agency. I'm planning to call tomorrow morning based on all the successful outcomes shared here. It's ridiculous we have to waste time fixing their system errors, but knowing the agents are aware of this widespread issue makes me feel much more confident. Thanks Evelyn and everyone else for sharing your experiences - this community support has been a lifesaver for my anxiety!
I'm going through this exact same situation right now! Just received my LTR 2645 C letter two days ago and immediately panicked, even though I already got my refund back in March ($2,956). Reading through everyone's experiences in this thread has been such a huge relief - I had no idea this was happening to so many people! It's absolutely mind-boggling that the IRS can successfully process returns, approve refunds, and send out payments, but then their notification system is completely disconnected sending out review letters weeks later. I was up all night googling this letter thinking I had somehow messed up our taxes or that they were going to demand the money back. Finding this community discussion with so many people in identical situations has completely changed my perspective from panic to frustration at their system incompetence. Based on all the successful call experiences shared here, I'm definitely calling first thing tomorrow morning using the number on the letter. It's annoying we have to spend time fixing their system glitches, but at least now I know what to expect and that the agents are familiar with this widespread coordination failure. Thank you to everyone who shared their experiences and outcomes - this thread has been more helpful than anything I could find on official IRS resources. Really shows how valuable community support is when dealing with government system failures!
I just joined this community today after getting my own LTR 2645 C letter and I'm so glad I found this thread! Like everyone else here, I was absolutely terrified when I saw that official IRS envelope, especially since I already received my refund weeks ago ($1,743). This whole discussion has been incredibly reassuring - it's clear this is a massive system coordination failure on the IRS's part rather than anything we taxpayers did wrong. The fact that so many people are dealing with this identical situation really shows how widespread this glitch is. It's honestly ridiculous that in 2025 they can't get their own internal systems to communicate properly. How do you successfully process someone's return and send out their refund, but then weeks later have a separate system sending letters saying the return needs review? It's like they're operating with technology from the stone age! I'm definitely calling tomorrow morning based on all the positive experiences shared here. Thanks Drake and everyone else for taking the time to document your outcomes - this community support has been a total lifesaver for my stress levels!
One additional consideration that might be helpful - make sure to review your S-corp election timing and any potential Section 1202 Qualified Small Business Stock (QSBS) benefits. If your LLC made the S-corp election early enough and you've held your interest for at least 5 years, you might qualify for the QSBS exclusion which could eliminate federal taxes on up to $10 million of the gain (or 10x your basis, whichever is greater). This would be even better than just avoiding the 3.8% NIIT - it could potentially eliminate the entire federal capital gains tax on your $875K gain. The QSBS rules are complex and have specific requirements around when the election was made, the type of business, and how the stock was acquired, but it's definitely worth having your accountant review this when they return. Also, since you mentioned multiple owners, each owner can potentially claim their own $10M QSBS exclusion, so the total benefit for your group could be substantial. This is one of those situations where the entity structure (LLC electing S-corp treatment) might actually work in your favor for tax planning purposes.
This is excellent advice about QSBS! I hadn't even considered this possibility. Since we started the business in 2018 and made the S-corp election pretty early on, we might actually qualify for the 5-year holding period requirement by the time of sale. The potential to exclude the entire $875K from federal capital gains tax would be incredible - that could save me around $131K in federal taxes (15% or 20% capital gains rate) plus avoid the 3.8% NIIT entirely. Even if we only partially qualify, any QSBS exclusion would be huge. I'm definitely going to have my accountant dive deep into this when they get back. Do you know if there are any specific documentation requirements we should be gathering now to support a QSBS claim? I want to make sure we have everything ready since the sale timeline is tight.
For QSBS documentation, you'll want to gather several key items before your accountant returns: **Essential QSBS Documentation:** - Your LLC operating agreement and all amendments - The S-corp election form (Form 2553) and the date it was filed - Documentation showing when you acquired your ownership interest (original investment records, partnership agreements, etc.) - Business formation documents (Articles of Organization, EIN application) - Financial records showing the business had gross assets under $50M when you acquired your interest and when the S-corp election was made **Business Activity Verification:** - Records showing the business qualifies as an "active business" (not just passive investments) - Documentation that it's not in an excluded industry (hotels, restaurants, farms, mining, etc.) - Financial statements or tax returns showing business operations **Timing Documentation:** - Any stock certificates or membership interest documentation with dates - Capital contribution records with timestamps - Bank records showing when investments were made The 5-year holding period is calculated from when you first acquired the interest, not from the S-corp election date, so if you were a founding member in 2018, you're likely well past the 5-year requirement by now. Given the potential tax savings, it's worth having your accountant expedite this analysis even if it means paying for rush service. The QSBS exclusion could dwarf any costs associated with getting professional guidance quickly.
Looking at your situation, you're in a really strong position to avoid the 3.8% NIIT on your $875K gain. Since you've been actively involved in running the business since 2018, you almost certainly meet the material participation requirements that exempt you from NIIT. A few key points based on the great discussion above: **Material Participation** - With 6+ years of active involvement, you likely qualify under multiple tests (500+ hours annually, substantially all participation, or the 5-of-10 years test). The LLC/S-corp structure doesn't change this fundamental exemption. **Documentation Priority** - Start gathering evidence of your participation NOW: emails showing business decisions, calendar entries, meeting minutes, travel records, contracts you signed, etc. Even without perfect hour logs, multiple types of evidence showing consistent involvement will be convincing. **QSBS Potential** - This could be huge! If your LLC made the S-corp election early and you've held your interest since 2018, you might qualify for Section 1202 QSBS exclusion. This could eliminate federal taxes on your entire $875K gain (not just the 3.8% NIIT). Given the potential $131K+ in tax savings, consider having your accountant prioritize this analysis even if they're on vacation. **Next Steps** - Gather all formation documents, S-corp election paperwork, and ownership records. Document your business activities timeline. If QSBS doesn't apply, the material participation exemption alone should save you about $33K in NIIT. With the sale in 6 weeks, time is critical but you have multiple strong paths to significant tax savings. This is definitely worth expediting professional review!
This is such a comprehensive summary - thank you! I'm feeling much more confident about avoiding the NIIT now. I've already started gathering documentation and found tons of emails, calendar entries, and meeting records that clearly show my active involvement throughout the years. One quick follow-up question: If we do qualify for QSBS treatment, does that completely eliminate both federal capital gains tax AND the NIIT, or would there still be some portion subject to regular capital gains rates? With multiple owners potentially each claiming their own $10M exclusion, I want to make sure I understand how this stacks with the material participation exemption. I'm definitely going to contact my accountant tomorrow to see if they can prioritize this analysis remotely. The potential savings are too significant to wait, especially with the tight timeline. Thanks again to everyone who contributed - this community has been incredibly helpful!
Congratulations on reaching the funded status! As someone who's dealt with international tax situations, I can add a few practical points to what others have shared: The SBTPG funded status with trace number essentially means your refund has cleared the IRS approval process and is now in the final banking pipeline. Since you're filing from abroad, here's what I'd recommend: ⢠Contact your bank proactively to let them know you're expecting a US government transfer - this can prevent any holds or delays ⢠The trace number format should be 15 digits - if it's different, double-check you're looking at the right field ⢠International banks sometimes require additional documentation for large government transfers, so having your tax return summary ready can help ⢠Consider setting up account alerts so you're notified immediately when the deposit hits From my experience, once SBTPG shows funded, the failure rate is essentially zero. Your money is in the system and will arrive. The trace number is your insurance policy - it proves the transaction exists if there are any banking hiccups along the way. Since you mentioned being extra cautious about the process going smoothly, you might also want to confirm with your bank what their cut-off times are for processing incoming international transfers. Some banks only process these during specific windows, which could affect timing. You're in the home stretch now! š
This is such comprehensive advice! I'm also filing from abroad this year and hadn't thought about contacting my bank proactively. That's a really smart tip about letting them know to expect the transfer. I'm curious - when you mention "large government transfers" requiring additional documentation, what would typically be considered "large" in this context? Is there a specific threshold where banks start asking more questions, or does it vary by institution? I want to make sure I'm prepared with the right paperwork if needed.
As an international filer who's been through this exact SBTPG funded status situation, I can tell you that you're basically home free at this point! The funded status with trace number means the IRS has already sent your money to SBTPG and they've initiated the transfer to your bank. Since you're filing from abroad, here's what I learned from my experience: ⢠The trace number is crucial for international transfers - your bank may ask for it to verify the source of funds ⢠Expect 2-4 business days for the money to hit your international account (slightly longer than domestic due to additional banking verification) ⢠Some international banks automatically hold large government transfers for 24-48 hours as a fraud prevention measure ⢠The SBTPG system is very reliable once it shows funded - I've never seen anyone not receive their money after reaching this status I'd recommend calling your bank's international transfer department to give them a heads up that you're expecting a US tax refund. This can prevent unnecessary holds or delays. Also, keep that trace number handy - it's basically your receipt that proves the transaction is legitimate. The waiting is the hardest part, but you're literally days away from having your refund! The system works, it's just a matter of letting the international banking process complete. šÆ
This is exactly what I needed to hear! I'm in a very similar situation - filing from overseas for the first time and have been stressing about every step of the process. Your point about calling the international transfer department is brilliant - I hadn't even thought about that but it makes perfect sense. Quick question: when you called your bank, did you need to provide any specific details beyond just mentioning you were expecting a US tax refund? I want to make sure I give them the right information to prevent any unnecessary complications. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's incredibly helpful to hear from someone who's actually been through this exact scenario! š
Kayla Jacobson
I just want to echo what everyone else is saying - definitely notify the IRS even though your LLC had no activity. I was in almost the exact same boat about a year ago with an LLC I formed but never used. One thing I learned that might be helpful: when you write your letter to the IRS, be very specific about the timeline. Include the date you got your EIN, the date you dissolved with the state, and explicitly state that there was zero business activity during the entire period the LLC existed. This helps create a clear record that there was never any taxable activity to report. I also recommend sending it certified mail so you have proof of delivery. The IRS processing times can be slow, but having that certified receipt gives you documentation that you properly notified them if any questions come up later. Since you already handled the state dissolution, you're most of the way there. Just need to close the loop with the federal side and you'll be all set. Better to take care of it now than worry about it down the road!
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Kelsey Hawkins
ā¢This is all really great advice! I'm actually dealing with this exact situation right now - formed an LLC about 6 months ago, got the EIN, but never did anything with the business and just dissolved it with my state last week. The certified mail tip is definitely something I'll do. I was wondering though - should I include any specific forms with the letter, or is a simple business letter with the dissolution paperwork attachment sufficient? Also, does anyone know roughly how long it typically takes to hear back from the IRS (if they respond at all) after sending the dissolution notification? I really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences here - makes this whole process feel much less intimidating!
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Chloe Taylor
I'm dealing with this exact same situation right now, so this thread is incredibly helpful! My single-member LLC has been sitting dormant for about 5 months after I got the EIN but never actually started the business. One question I haven't seen addressed yet - when you send the dissolution letter to the IRS, do you need to include any information about why the business never operated? I'm wondering if I should explain that it was due to changed circumstances, market conditions, etc., or if I should just stick to the facts (formation date, EIN, dissolution date, zero activity). Also, has anyone here had experience with what happens if you don't notify the IRS and just let it sit? I know several people have mentioned potential issues, but I'm curious about real-world consequences. Obviously I plan to do the right thing and send the letter, but I'm trying to understand the actual risk level if someone hypothetically didn't handle this properly. Thanks to everyone who's shared their experiences - this community is a lifesaver for navigating these confusing tax situations!
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Caleb Stone
ā¢Great questions! For the dissolution letter, you don't need to explain why the business never operated - just stick to the facts. The IRS cares about the timeline and that there was zero activity, not the reasons behind it. Keep it simple: formation date, EIN, dissolution date, and a clear statement of no business activity. As for not notifying the IRS - I've seen this go both ways. Some people never have issues, but others get hit with automated notices years later expecting returns. The IRS computer systems don't know your business closed unless you tell them. Worst case scenario is getting penalty notices for "missing" returns, which creates a paperwork nightmare even when you don't actually owe anything. Since you're already planning to send the letter, you'll avoid all that potential hassle. The peace of mind is worth the cost of a stamp and certified mail!
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