21 Years Old, Single in FL. Earned $30k Self-Employment Income. Is $4.5k-$5k Tax Reasonable?
I'm 21 and just finished my tax forms on FreeTaxUSA. The amount I'm supposed to pay is kind of freaking me out. For self-employment income, does owing around $4.5k-$5k sound right? It was originally closer to $5k but I talked with my parents and found some deductions that brought it down a bit. I have receipts for most of my business purchases, but not everything (like my phone). Should I still claim those as business expenses? Some background: I got a 1099-NEC from the company I work for and made about $30k over 8 months. They didn't withhold anything, so I received my full payments. I keep everything in a high-yield savings account (filled out the 1099-INT info too). I live in Florida with a family friend right now. I'm still in college and tried to use my 1098-T, but FreeTaxUSA said I didn't pay enough for school to get any deductions. I also spent my own money on equipment for a club where I'm on the executive board, but couldn't find where to enter that. This is my first time doing taxes ever (first real job). Any advice would be super helpful!
19 comments


Jay Lincoln
Yes, that tax amount sounds reasonable for self-employment income. When you're self-employed (receiving a 1099-NEC), you're responsible for both the employee AND employer portions of Social Security and Medicare taxes, which comes to about 15.3% of your net earnings. That's on top of regular income tax. For a $30k income with no withholding, owing $4.5k-$5k is actually in the right ballpark. This breaks down to roughly $4,000 in self-employment tax plus some regular income tax. For business expenses like your phone, you can definitely deduct the PORTION used for business, even without receipts. You just need to reasonably estimate the percentage used for work (like 70% business, 30% personal). Keep a log going forward though - documentation is always better. For your club expenses, those would typically fall under unreimbursed employee expenses, which unfortunately aren't deductible for most people since the 2018 tax changes. Going forward, you might want to make quarterly estimated tax payments to avoid a big bill at tax time. You can set aside about 25-30% of your earnings to cover taxes.
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Brooklyn Foley
•Thanks for the reassurance. I was worried I messed something up to end up owing that much! Do you think I should look into getting an accountant next year, or is FreeTaxUSA good enough for someone with simple self-employment income? Also, for the phone percentage, would 50% business use sound reasonable? I use it for both personal and work stuff pretty equally.
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Jay Lincoln
•FreeTaxUSA is actually great for self-employment situations that aren't too complex. As long as you're comfortable categorizing your income and expenses, you probably don't need an accountant yet. If you start having multiple income streams or more complicated deductions, then it might be worth consulting with a professional. Yes, 50% would be perfectly reasonable for mixed business/personal phone use. Just make sure you can explain your reasoning if ever questioned. Many self-employed people use similar percentages for their phones.
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Jessica Suarez
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Marcus Williams
•Does this actually work with 1099-NEC forms? I'm in a similar situation but with multiple clients sending me 1099s. Would it help me figure out which expenses are legit and which might trigger an audit?
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Lily Young
•Sounds interesting but I'm skeptical. How is this different from just using TurboTax or something? Does it actually find more deductions than regular tax software?
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Jessica Suarez
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Lily Young
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Kennedy Morrison
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Wesley Hallow
•Wait how does this actually work? Does it just call the IRS for you? I'm confused how this helps get through the phone wait.
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Justin Chang
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Kennedy Morrison
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Justin Chang
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Grace Thomas
Just a tip from someone who's been self-employed for years - start making quarterly estimated tax payments NOW for 2025! You'll probably need to pay: - April 15 - June 15 - September 15 - January 15 (of next year) If you don't, you might get hit with underpayment penalties next year on top of that tax bill. IRS Form 1040-ES is what you need. I usually set aside 30% of every payment I receive into a separate savings account just for taxes. The $4.5-5k sounds right for $30k in SE income. It's painful that first year when you realize how much self-employment tax takes!
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Hunter Brighton
•What's the minimum you need to make before you have to do quarterly payments? I'm just starting freelancing and only expect to make like $15k this year.
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Grace Thomas
•You generally need to make quarterly estimated tax payments if you expect to owe at least $1,000 in tax for the year AND your withholding and credits will cover less than 90% of this year's tax or 100% of last year's tax (whichever is smaller). At $15k in self-employment income, you'd likely owe around $2,200+ in combined self-employment and income taxes, so you'd probably need to make those quarterly payments to avoid penalties. Even small side gigs can trigger this requirement once you pass a certain threshold.
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Dylan Baskin
Has anybody else tried using business expenses they don't have receipts for? I'm in a similar situation (got about $32k on 1099-NEC) and used some of my apartment for work, plus my personal laptop, but don't have specific receipts for those. FreeTaxUSA let me enter them, but now I'm nervous.
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Lauren Wood
•You don't actually need receipts for everything, but you should have some documentation. For the home office, measure the space and calculate the percentage of your home it represents. Keep those measurements. For the laptop, if you already owned it, estimate a fair market value when you started using it for business and the percentage of business use. Write this info down and keep it with your tax records. The IRS understands not everything has a receipt, especially things you already owned before starting the business. Just be reasonable with your claims.
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GalaxyGlider
The $4.5k-$5k tax bill is definitely normal for your situation! As others mentioned, self-employment tax is the big killer - you're paying both sides of Social Security and Medicare taxes (about 15.3%) plus regular income tax. A few things that might help going forward: 1. **Track everything better this year** - get a separate business checking account and run all business expenses through it. Makes record-keeping so much easier. 2. **Home office deduction** - if you use part of your living space exclusively for work, you can deduct that percentage of rent/utilities. Even a corner of your bedroom counts if it's your dedicated workspace. 3. **Equipment depreciation** - that laptop, desk, chair, etc. can be depreciated over several years rather than deducted all at once, which might spread out the benefit. 4. **Mileage** - track any driving for work (client meetings, picking up supplies, etc.) at 65.5 cents per mile for 2023. The phone at 50% business use sounds totally reasonable. I'd also look into whether any of your college courses relate to your work - sometimes continuing education can be deductible. Don't stress too much about this year's bill - it's a harsh welcome to self-employment taxes, but now you know what to expect and can plan accordingly!
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