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How to file for unemployment after being fired in California EDD

So I got let go from my job at a logistics company about 10 days ago and I'm honestly completely lost on how to start the whole unemployment process. It was a termination - my employer said it was due to 'performance issues' but honestly I think it had more to do with the fact that I raised some concerns about workplace safety conditions. Either way I'm now without income and I need to figure this out fast. I went to the California EDD website and started filling out the initial claim form but then it asked me questions about the reason for separation and I got really confused about what to put. If I say I was fired does that automatically mean I get disqualified? I've heard some people say that being fired doesn't always mean you lose benefits but I don't know if that's true for California. I have about 18 months of work history at this job and made around $62,000 last year. I have no idea what my weekly benefit amount would be or how long the whole process takes before I actually see money. Can someone walk me through the basics of filing for unemployment after being fired in California? Any help is appreciated because I'm starting to stress about rent.

First off breathe - being fired does NOT automatically disqualify you from California EDD unemployment benefits. This is probably the biggest misconception out there. California uses what's called a 'misconduct' standard, meaning you're only disqualified if you were fired for willful misconduct - like intentionally violating company policy, showing up drunk, theft, that kind of thing. A performance-based termination is usually NOT considered misconduct, so you'd likely still qualify. Here's what you need to do right now: 1) Go to UI Online at edd.ca.gov and file your claim as soon as possible because benefits don't pay retroactively beyond your filing date. 2) When you get to the separation reason, be honest - select 'discharged/fired' and then explain the circumstances clearly. 3) Gather your employment history for the past 18 months, your Social Security number, and your employer's address and EDD account number if you have it. With your income level you're probably looking at somewhere around $450-$600/week in benefits, but the EDD will calculate your actual WBA based on your highest earning quarter.

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Thank you this is really helpful. So even though I was fired for 'performance issues' I might still get approved? I was worried that as soon as I check the fired box it would automatically kick me out of the system.

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Yes exactly right. The burden is actually on the employer to PROVE misconduct, not on you to prove you didn't commit misconduct. California EDD sends both sides a questionnaire and investigates. Performance-based firings rarely result in disqualification.

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This happened to me last year. Was let go for 'not meeting metrics' at a call center. Got approved no problem. The adjudication process took about 3 weeks but then I got backpay for those weeks.

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Just to add some practical steps since you mentioned being confused about the actual filing process - here's the quick rundown for filing unemployment after being fired in California: 1. Create a myEDD account at portal.edd.ca.gov if you don't have one already 2. Click 'File a UI Claim' and complete the entire application in one sitting if possible (it times out) 3. For the separation section, select 'Lack of work/discharged' and be specific in the explanation box about what your employer told you 4. After submitting you'll get a confirmation number - write it down 5. You'll receive a Notice of Unemployment Insurance Claim Filed (DE 1101CZ) by mail within about a week 6. Your employer will also receive a notice and has 10 days to respond 7. You may be placed in adjudication while EDD investigates the circumstances of your firing 8. Continue filing your weekly certifications EVERY week even while in adjudication - this is critical because if you get approved you want all those weeks on record The whole process from filing to first payment is usually 3-5 weeks if there are no issues.

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Wait I need to file weekly certifications even before my claim is approved?? What questions do they ask on those?

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YES this is so important and a lot of people miss this. You need to certify every week starting from your first week of unemployment. The weekly cert asks if you were able and available to work, whether you looked for work (or if you're on standby), and whether you earned any wages. Don't skip weeks even if your claim is pending.

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omg I didn't know this when I filed last year and missed like 2 weeks of certs and they wouldn't pay me for those weeks even after I got approved. Don't make my mistake!!

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I went through something almost identical about 8 months ago - fired from a marketing agency under vague 'performance' reasons. One thing I want to add that nobody mentions: California EDD will send your former employer a questionnaire asking them to describe why they fired you. The employer's response HEAVILY influences whether you get approved or sent to adjudication. In my case my employer described the termination in a way that EDD flagged as potential misconduct and I got stuck in adjudication for weeks. I tried calling EDD to explain my side but could not get through to anyone for the life of me - I called for 8 days straight and kept hitting the 'we cannot take your call' recording. A coworker told me about a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that basically helps you actually get through to a live EDD agent on the phone. There's a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 - I was skeptical but I was desperate and it actually worked. I got connected to an agent who was able to see the notes on my claim and I explained my side. Got approved shortly after. If you hit a wall trying to reach EDD by phone, that's a real option.

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That's really scary that the employer's description can send you to adjudication. Did you have to do a phone interview with EDD as part of the adjudication or did it just happen in the background?

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They sent me a letter asking for a phone interview. You get a scheduled time and an EDD analyst calls you and asks questions about the circumstances. Basically they want to hear your side. My advice: be factual, specific, and stick to what actually happened. Don't editorialize or get emotional on the call.

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The adjudication phone interview is actually your best chance to get approved if your employer tried to claim misconduct. Those analysts have heard everything so just be calm and factual like the other person said.

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wait so if youre fired for performance does edd just approve you automatically or do they still investigate?? asking bc im about to file too

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Not automatic - EDD reviews every fired claim. But 'performance' reasons almost never meet the legal definition of misconduct under California Unemployment Insurance Code. The key legal distinction is that misconduct requires willful or wanton disregard for the employer's interests, not just poor performance or inability to do the job.

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ok good because i was super worried about that

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Also worth noting - even if you were fired for something that MIGHT be considered misconduct, you still have the right to appeal if EDD disqualifies you. The appeals process has pretty solid due process protections in California.

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Something you should know about your potential benefit amount - California EDD calculates your Weekly Benefit Amount (WBA) based on your highest quarter of earnings during the base period (the 12 months before the last complete calendar quarter). With $62k annual income your highest quarter was probably around $15,500-$17,000 which would likely put your WBA somewhere between $500-$650/week. California's maximum WBA is currently around $1,097/week. You can get a rough estimate on the EDD website using their UI benefit calculator before you even file. The standard claim duration is up to 26 weeks of benefits.

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That's more than I expected honestly. So potentially up to $650/week? That would help a lot. Do taxes come out automatically or do I have to handle that separately?

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UI benefits are taxable as income. You can elect to have 10% federal withholding and 1% state withholding taken out automatically when you file, or you can opt to handle it yourself at tax time. I'd recommend setting up the withholding so you don't get hit with a surprise bill in April.

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I forgot about withholding my first time on unemployment and ended up owing money. Definitely set it up when you file.

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I got fired last year and was SO nervous about filing. The EDD website is honestly not that intuitive for the separation reason section. My tip: in the explanation box write something like 'I was informed by my supervisor on [date] that I was being terminated due to performance concerns. I was not given any prior warning or written documentation of performance issues.' Keep it factual and brief.

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This is great advice on how to word it. I actually do have some emails that hint that my termination might have been retaliatory but I wasn't sure whether to bring that up.

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I'd be careful about claiming retaliation in the initial EDD filing - EDD adjudicators aren't employment lawyers and they're just looking at misconduct vs. not misconduct. If you have a retaliation claim that might be better addressed through DFEH or an employment attorney separately. For EDD purposes keep it simple.

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Solid advice. EDD adjudication and employment law claims are two separate tracks. You can pursue both simultaneously but don't muddy the EDD claim with legal theories that the adjudicator isn't equipped to evaluate.

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UGHHH reading this whole thread and getting so stressed because I was fired 2 weeks ago and haven't filed yet because I kept thinking I didn't qualify. Does the late filing hurt me? Like am I going to lose those 2 weeks of benefits?

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Unfortunately yes - California EDD does not pay benefits retroactively for weeks before your filing date (with very limited exceptions). You should file TODAY. Like right now. Stop reading this and go to edd.ca.gov and file. Every day you wait is potentially a day of lost benefits.

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Filing right now oh my god thank you

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Also - your claim will have a one week 'waiting period' (the first week doesn't get paid) so you've already lost at minimum 3 weeks of benefits if you filed today. Not trying to make you feel bad just explaining the reality of how the timing works. File asap.

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The waiting period thing is so annoying. It's literally a week you were unemployed that you just don't get paid for because of a policy reason.

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Since you mentioned you raised workplace safety concerns before being fired - that's actually very legally significant and I want to flag something important. California Labor Code has strong whistleblower protections. If your employer fired you in retaliation for raising safety concerns, that could actually HELP your EDD case because it demonstrates the termination wasn't for misconduct on your part. It also means you might want to consult with an employment attorney about a separate wrongful termination or retaliation claim. Many employment attorneys offer free consultations. Getting EDD benefits and pursuing a legal claim are not mutually exclusive.

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I didn't realize the safety concerns angle could actually help rather than complicate my EDD claim. That makes sense though - if anything it shows my employer had a reason to want me gone that had nothing to do with my performance.

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Exactly. And document everything now while it's fresh. Any emails, texts, meeting notes related to your safety complaints AND the performance reviews you received after making those complaints. Even if you don't pursue legal action it's good to have if EDD asks questions.

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went through adjudication after being fired and honestly the waiting was the worst part. kept checking my UI Online account every day for status updates and seeing 'pending' for 4 weeks straight. is there any way to actually find out whats happening with your claim during adjudication

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There's not a great way to track it in the portal - it just shows pending until there's a decision. Your main option is calling EDD directly which as we all know is its own nightmare. I mentioned it earlier in the thread but Claimyr (claimyr.com) is genuinely the most reliable way I've found to actually reach a live EDD phone agent. There's a video demo at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 - helped me get actual updates on my adjudication when I was stuck in the same situation you're describing.

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does it actually work? feels like anything that promises to get you through to EDD is too good to be true

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I was skeptical too but yeah it actually connected me to a real agent. At that point I was desperate enough to try anything after 3 weeks of busy signals and hang-ups.

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I've also heard good things about it. EDD phone access is genuinely broken so having any tool that helps is worth knowing about.

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One thing nobody mentioned yet - make sure you register with CalJOBS (the California job search database) as part of your claim requirements. EDD requires you to register there and you'll be expected to document your job search activities each week when you certify. You typically need to record 3 job search activities per week, which can include applications submitted, networking, attending job fairs, etc. Don't skip this - if you get audited and don't have records you could face an overpayment.

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Oh I had no idea about the CalJOBS requirement. Is that something I set up during the initial filing or after?

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You set it up after - EDD will send you a notice with instructions. You have a short window to complete the registration. It's pretty straightforward but easy to overlook because it's a separate system from your main EDD account.

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i forgot to do my calJOBS registration and my claim got put on hold. had to call EDD to get it sorted out. such a headache. do it as soon as you get the letter

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Also keep a written log of your job search activities even beyond what CalJOBS tracks. If EDD ever questions your compliance you want records you control, not just whatever's in a government database.

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okay so i'm reading this whole thread and i feel like people are making it way more complicated than it is. you just fill out the application say you were fired and wait. my cousin did it and got approved in like a week no big deal

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Your cousin got lucky with a straightforward case. Claims involving terminations (vs. layoffs) go through additional review almost always. The complexity people are describing in this thread is real.

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fair point i guess. i just dont want OP to stress more than they need to

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The baseline process can be simple but if the employer disputes anything or flags misconduct it gets complicated fast. Better to know what might happen than be blindsided.

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UPDATE: I filed my claim this morning! It went pretty smoothly actually. The separation section wasn't as hard as I expected - I explained the performance termination factually and mentioned that I hadn't received any prior written warnings. Got my confirmation number. Now I guess I wait for the paperwork in the mail? How soon should I file my first weekly certification?

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Great news! For your first weekly cert timing: your claim has a designated 'benefit year begin' date which is typically the Sunday of the week you filed. You'll certify for the PREVIOUS week starting the following Sunday. So if your claim started this week you'd certify for this week starting next Sunday or Monday. Check your UI Online account - it'll show when certifications are available.

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Also - watch your mail carefully for a form called the DE 4365 (Interview Appointment Letter) or the EDD may call you for an adjudication interview. Make sure your phone is on and you answer calls from unknown Sacramento area numbers. Missing that call can significantly delay your claim.

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Thank you everyone seriously. This community has been so helpful. I went from completely panicked to feeling like I actually have a handle on this.

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my situation is a little different i was technically fired but they gave me the option to resign and i chose to be fired instead because someone told me it looks better for unemployment purposes. was that the right call?

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Yes - for unemployment purposes being fired (without misconduct) is generally better than voluntarily quitting. If you resign voluntarily you have to prove 'good cause' to get unemployment benefits, which is a higher bar than the employer having to prove misconduct. You made the right call.

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phew okay good. was second guessing that decision for weeks

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The 'it looks bad on your resume to be fired' thing is kind of a myth from earlier employment eras. Most HR departments just do employment verification (dates and title) and can't legally tell prospective employers you were fired in most cases anyway.

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okay update from me - I filed and I'm already in adjudication which I honestly expected since I was fired. Tried calling EDD three times today and couldn't get through at all. Is there a specific time or method that works better?

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I tried calling at 8am sharp when they open and still got the high volume message. honestly the phone system is just broken

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I keep coming back to Claimyr for this exact situation - claimyr.com - it helped me get through during adjudication when I couldn't reach anyone. The video at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 explains how it works. When you're in adjudication and have no way to check status or provide information, having a way to actually reach someone is genuinely valuable.

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I just watched that video. Might try it if this goes on much longer because I have rent due in 3 weeks and I cannot be stuck in adjudication limbo.

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Also check your UI Online inbox regularly - EDD sometimes sends messages through the portal instead of calling or mailing. Adjudication analysts occasionally communicate that way.

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Something I wish someone told me when I filed after being fired: document your job search REALLY carefully from day one. I got a random audit 8 weeks into my claim asking me to verify my job search activities for specific weeks. I had been doing the searches but hadn't kept great records. Spent two stressful weeks scrambling to pull together email confirmations and LinkedIn screenshots. Keep a simple spreadsheet with date, company, position, how you applied, and any confirmation number. Takes 2 minutes per application and could save you massive headaches.

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This is such practical advice. I'm setting up a spreadsheet right now. What counts as a 'job search activity' beyond just submitting applications?

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California EDD recognizes: submitting job applications, attending job fairs, networking meetings specifically for job search purposes, visiting a job center, resume preparation workshops, and employment agency contacts. Straight up submitting applications is the easiest to document though since you get confirmation emails.

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Also creating a professional LinkedIn profile and uploading your resume to Indeed/ZipRecruiter can count as activities in your first week. Good for the weeks where you're getting started and don't have a ton of applications yet.

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I was so confused during adjudication because I didn't understand the difference between adjudication and an appeal. Like I kept calling it an 'appeal' and the EDD agent corrected me. Adjudication is when EDD investigates BEFORE making a decision. An appeal is what you file AFTER EDD makes a decision you disagree with. They're totally different stages!

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omg i've been saying appeal this whole time when i meant adjudication lol thanks for clarifying

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yeah i mixed it up for weeks. during adjudication you're just waiting for the initial decision. if they deny you THEN you appeal. the appeal process is more formal - you get a hearing with an administrative law judge and everything

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And the appeal deadline is 30 days from the date on the Notice of Determination. Mark your calendar the day you get that letter regardless of whether you think you'll need it.

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random question but does my new employer find out I filed for unemployment? like does it show up anywhere?

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No. Unemployment claims are handled between you, EDD, and your former employer. A new employer doesn't find out you filed and it doesn't show up on background checks. The only way a new employer would know is if you told them.

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huge relief thank you

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Also worth noting - you're required to report any income you earn while on unemployment when you certify weekly. If you start a new part-time job you report those hours/wages and EDD adjusts your benefit amount. You don't immediately lose all benefits when you start earning some income.

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I had a really rough experience with my adjudication phone interview and want to share for anyone who might face one. The analyst was very matter-of-fact and asked pointed questions about specific incidents. I got flustered because I wasn't prepared. My advice: write out a clear timeline of events before the call. Know your start date, any performance reviews you received, dates of any disciplinary actions, and the date and circumstances of your termination. Having notes in front of you during the call is completely fine.

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This is really helpful. Did they ask about specific incidents or more general questions about your employment?

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Both, but the specific incident questions caught me off guard. They had clearly read the employer's response and were asking me to respond to specific claims the employer made. So be prepared that the employer may have said specific things about you and you'll need to address them factually.

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This is why it's important to be honest in your initial filing. If you write one thing initially and then say something different in the interview it creates credibility issues.

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Excellent advice throughout this thread. The adjudication interview is genuinely one of those situations where preparation makes a huge difference in outcome.

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does anyone know if california edd has a chatbot or anything online i can use instead of calling? i have phone anxiety and the idea of calling is stressing me out more than the whole unemployment thing

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EDD does have an online chat option sometimes but it's very limited and mostly just gives you FAQ answers. The AskEDD portal at askedd.edd.ca.gov lets you submit written questions and you get responses within a few days. For general questions that works okay but for anything specific to your claim (like adjudication status) you really do need to talk to an agent.

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ugh okay. i was hoping to avoid the phone entirely

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If your phone anxiety is making it hard to call, Claimyr (claimyr.com) might actually be helpful for a different reason - instead of you sitting on hold for hours getting worked up, it basically manages the queue for you and calls you when an agent is available. So you're not white-knuckling a hold situation. Might reduce some of the anxiety around it. They have a video at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 showing how it works.

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oh that's actually a really interesting point. the hold anxiety is honestly a big part of it. i'll look into that

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Finally got my approval letter after 5 weeks in adjudication!! EDD determined that my termination was not due to misconduct and I'm approved for full benefits. For anyone going through the same thing after being fired - it does resolve, it just takes time. Make sure you keep certifying every week during the wait because once I was approved they processed all my back payments for the weeks I'd already certified. Got a pretty substantial lump sum for those 5 weeks.

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This is so encouraging to read. And a good reminder to not skip weekly certifications even when it feels pointless because you don't know if you'll be approved yet.

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Congrats!! This gives me hope. I'm on week 3 of adjudication now. Did they send the approval letter by mail or did it show up in UI Online first?

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In UI Online first actually - my claim status changed from 'pending' to 'approved' and then the physical letter came a couple days later. Check your UI Online account regularly.

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Great outcome! And good on you for staying on top of the weekly certs during the whole wait. A lot of people give up on certifying thinking it doesn't matter until the claim is decided. It absolutely matters.

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