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How much do you make for unemployment in California EDD?

So I got laid off two weeks ago from my warehouse job and I'm trying to figure out the money side of this whole thing before I go crazy staring at bills. I keep seeing different numbers online and nobody can agree. Like some people say it's based on what you earned, some say there's a cap, some say it depends on the quarter. My last job was paying me around $22/hr and I was full time. Put in 18 months there before the whole department got cut. I went to UI Online and started an application but I couldn't figure out where it tells you what you'd actually get per week. Is there a way to calculate it ahead of time or do you just have to wait and see what California EDD decides? Also someone mentioned a waiting week where you get nothing at first? Can anyone break this down in plain English because the EDD website is not exactly written for normal humans.

Retail job gone since mid-October and I went through the whole confusion you're describing when I first applied. Tried Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get a live EDD agent on the phone because I had a specific question about which quarter they were pulling my wages from. The agent pulled up my claim and told me my base period was the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters before I filed, which meant my big holiday-season earnings from the year before were actually in the window. She confirmed the weekly amount on my DE 429Z was correct and told me to watch for it in the mail. There's a video on reaching a live person at EDD by phone at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 if you want to see what that process looks like. She also explained that my highest single quarter is what drives the weekly number, not some average across all four.

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Wait so the highest quarter is what matters most? I had one really strong quarter last year where I picked up a ton of overtime. Would that one count more than the others?

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Exactly that, the agent confirmed it works off whichever quarter had the most wages. So your overtime quarter could be really helpful for your weekly amount.

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Same question I had. My quarters were super uneven because I had a slow stretch mid-year and then went full throttle at the end. Knowing the highest one is what they use made me feel a lot better.

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The weekly benefit amount runs somewhere between $40 and $450 in California. EDD takes your highest-earning quarter out of your base period and uses a formula to land on your specific number. If you made decent full-time wages for 18 months like you said, you're probably going to be close to the higher end of that range, but I can't give you an exact figure without knowing your actual quarterly earnings. EDD has a free calculator on edd.ca.gov that lets you plug in your wages and get an estimate before anything is official. The real number shows up on a form called the DE 429Z once your claim is processed, and that's the one that actually counts. If you think it's wrong when you get it, you have 30 days from the mailing date to appeal in writing.

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$40 to $450 is a huge range lol. I'm going to try that calculator tonight. Is it pretty accurate or does the real number come out different usually?

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It's a solid estimate, usually pretty close. The official amount on the DE 429Z is what EDD actually commits to, so treat the calculator as a planning tool, not a guarantee.

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I used that calculator and it was within like $8 of my actual weekly amount on the DE 429Z. Definitely worth doing before the letter arrives so you can at least budget.

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Maximum is $450 a week and that's the ceiling no matter what you earned. Even if you were pulling $5,000 a week at your old job, California caps it there. The total your whole claim can pay out is 26 times your weekly amount, or half your total base period wages, whichever comes out lower. So if your weekly is $450, the most you'd ever see from one claim is $11,700. After 26 weeks it ends unless there's some special extended program running, which there isn't right now.

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Wait does the waiting week count toward those 26 weeks? I keep hearing about it and I'm not sure if I'm losing a week of benefits or just a week of payment.

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The waiting week is the first eligible week of your claim and it doesn't get paid, but it doesn't reduce your total weeks either. You still get the full 26 paid weeks, it just means the first week you certify covers the waiting week unpaid and then the second week paid.

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This tripped me up too. The first certification usually covers both the waiting week and one paid week, so you get one payment for those first two weeks, not two. Confused me until someone explained it that way.

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DE 429Z came in the mail about two weeks after I applied and that's when I finally knew my actual weekly amount. Before that I was just guessing based on the calculator. Mine came out to $398 a week which felt lower than I expected but then I realized they were using a quarter from early last year when I was only working part-time because of a family thing. Nothing I could do about it since it was the standard base period. If your work history is pretty consistent over 18 months you probably won't have that problem though.

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That's frustrating about the part-time quarter dragging it down. Is there any way to ask them to use different quarters?

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There's something called an alternate base period where EDD uses your four most recent completed quarters instead of the standard ones, but it only kicks in if the standard base period doesn't give you enough wages to even have a valid claim. It doesn't get used just to bump up your weekly amount if you already qualify. I found that out the hard way.

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Correct on that. The alternate base period is a fallback for people who can't meet the minimum threshold with the standard one, not a way to get a higher payment. EDD runs it automatically if needed, you don't have to ask.

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Nobody warned me about the CalJOBS requirement when I first filed and I almost missed it. EDD sends a notice called the DE 8405 that says you need to register on CalJOBS and post a resume within 21 days of the notice date. Missing it can pause your payments. Has nothing to do with the amount you get, but I'm mentioning it because people ask about payments and then get blindsided by this step and suddenly wonder why their money stopped. CalJOBS is at caljobs.ca.gov and the signup is straightforward.

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Oh I had no idea about this, thank you. I haven't gotten any DE 8405 yet but I'll watch for it.

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Missed this notice completely on my first claim back in the day. Payments froze and I had no idea why. Now I watch for every piece of mail EDD sends like a hawk.

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The EDD notice tells you exactly what to do and when, just don't let it sit on your counter unopened. Everything time-sensitive has a date on it.

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Part-time work while you're collecting doesn't just wipe out your payment either, which surprised me. First $25 or 25 percent of whatever you earn in a week, whichever is bigger, doesn't count against you. Everything above that gets subtracted from your weekly amount. So if your weekly benefit is $420 and you earn $200 on a part-time gig in one week, EDD takes the bigger of $25 or $50 (that's 25% of $200), which is $50, and subtracts the remaining $150 from $420, leaving you $270 for that week. It's not a cliff where you lose everything the moment you pick up a shift.

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This is really good to know. I've been scared to even apply for part-time work because I thought any earnings would just cancel my benefits.

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Report everything you earn in the week you earned it, not when you get paid. That matters for the certification questions.

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So you still report the wages even if you're only going to earn like $50? Better safe than honest I guess... wait I mean better to report and be safe.

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Five weeks into my claim and the number I'm getting is exactly what the calculator said, $412. I work in construction so my wages bounce around a lot by season, and I was really worried the base period would catch me in a slow stretch but it landed on a strong quarter. The agent I eventually talked to confirmed the breakdown made sense for my situation. Had to use Claimyr to get through because I wasn't going to sit on hold for three hours. Got through and the agent walked me through exactly which weeks were in my base period and how the quarterly total worked out. Asked her about severance too since my employer threw in two weeks of pay when they let me go.

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What did they say about the severance? I might be getting a small payout too and I don't know if I'm supposed to report it or if it affects my payments.

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She said to report it when the certification asks about it and EDD would sort out how it affects things. She didn't tell me a rule about it, just that I needed to report it. I did and my payments came through fine.

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Severance is on EDD's list of things to report on your certification. You put it in and EDD figures out the rest. Don't skip that question on the form.

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To put the formula in plain terms: EDD looks at the four calendar quarters before your claim, finds whichever one had the highest pay, and uses that number to figure your weekly amount. The minimum to even have a valid claim is $1,300 in one quarter, or at least $900 in your best quarter as long as your total base period wages are 1.25 times that. For someone making $22 an hour full-time for a year and a half, you should be well above the threshold and probably landing near the higher end of the range. The DE 429Z is the letter that makes it official.

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What if someone worked two jobs? Do both sets of wages get counted into the base period?

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Both jobs' wages go into the base period calculation. EDD looks at all wages you earned during those quarters, not just from one employer.

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Worked two jobs the whole time before my layoff and both sets of wages counted. My weekly amount was actually decent because of it.

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BEEN ON HOLD FOR FOUR HOURS TODAY. Just wanted to share that with everyone. EDD phone situation is absolutely wild. Calling since 8am and nothing. All I want to know is why my Claim History still says Pending on two weeks that I certified three weeks ago and they won't even tell me why online.

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Pending weeks in your Claim History usually mean there's something EDD needs to decide before releasing the payment. Could be an eligibility question, could be an identity step. Check if you got any mail from EDD about a next step.

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Got nothing in the mail except the DE 429Z. No other letters. So I have no idea what the hold up is.

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Try the live chat option from the Help button inside UI Online. It's available Monday through Friday 9am to 2pm. Sometimes faster than the phone for a status question like that.

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My neighbor told me the amount you get is 60 percent of your old salary. That's what he thinks anyway. I just want to put out there that that's not right. It doesn't work as a straight percentage of your salary. It comes from your quarterly wages and the formula EDD uses, and it tops out at $450 no matter what. If you were making a lot, 60 percent would be way more than $450, which isn't possible. Just wanted to flag that because I see that 60 percent thing repeated a lot and it's not how it works.

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The 60 percent number floats around because that's roughly what lower-to-middle earners see when they do the math informally, but it's not a rule. The formula is based on quarterly wages with a hard cap.

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I definitely heard the 60 percent thing too. Good to know it's not a real rule, just a rough approximation that doesn't hold at higher earnings.

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Pension question for anyone who knows: I'm getting a small monthly pension from a previous employer and I'm now also filing for unemployment after getting laid off from a different job. Does the pension reduce my weekly unemployment payment? Nobody I've asked seems to know for sure.

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A pension tied to past work can reduce your weekly benefit amount, and EDD decides by how much based on your specific situation. It's one of those things worth confirming directly with EDD because how they handle it varies.

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Okay so I need to actually talk to someone about it. I already reported the pension income on my application so at least that part is done.

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Social Security income is different, by the way. That one doesn't get deducted from unemployment benefits at all and you don't report it. Pensions and Social Security are handled differently.

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Filing my application tonight after reading this whole thread. One thing I'm still fuzzy on: when they say the base period is the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters, how do I figure out which exact quarters those are for me? Like if I'm filing today in late November, does that mean the most recent quarter doesn't count?

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Calendar quarters are January through March, April through June, July through September, and October through December. Filing now in late November, the most recently completed quarter would be July through September. The standard base period looks back past that one and uses the four before it, so roughly July of last year through June of this year. The quarter you're in right now and the most recently finished one both sit outside the standard window.

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So my wages from October through now don't count at all in the standard base period. That makes sense but also feels a little rough if someone just got a raise recently.

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That's exactly the scenario where someone sometimes asks about the alternate base period, but remember it only kicks in if you don't have a valid claim under the standard one. A recent raise landing outside the window is just how the timing works, not a mistake EDD can fix.

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Applied online through myEDD at https://myedd.edd.ca.gov/ and had my DE 429Z showing $441 a week. That was pretty close to what the calculator estimated. The whole first payment took about three weeks to come through counting the waiting week. Heads up that the first certification usually covers two weeks but only one of them pays out.

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Three weeks total before first payment. That's good to know so I can plan around it. I have some savings but not a ton.

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Try not to cut it too close. The waiting week is unpaid, then you certify covering that week plus the next, and then payment processes. It moves faster if you certify online through UI Online immediately when the certification window opens.

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Technically full-time hours during most of my claim but I picked up one week of part-time consulting work and totally panicked about reporting it. Went ahead and reported the full amount for that week and my payment came through reduced, which is exactly what should have happened. The math worked out fine. Felt way less scary than I expected.

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Reporting part-time earnings is exactly right and the adjustment is usually pretty straightforward. The formula does what it's supposed to do.

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Good to know the system actually works the way people say it does when you do things by the book.

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Something I didn't see mentioned yet: once your benefit year ends you can't file a new California claim until it's over, even if you used up all your weeks early. The year starts on the Sunday of the week you filed and runs 52 weeks. Worth knowing for planning purposes if you think you might be on and off work over the next year.

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And if your job ends again while your benefit year is still open, you reopen the existing claim rather than starting a new one. UI Online has the option to reopen it.

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Does reopening it reset the waiting week? Or do you only serve that once per claim?

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The waiting week is per claim, served in the first eligible week. When you reopen an existing claim mid-year you don't serve it again, it was already done.

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Random thing that helped me: EDD's Unemployment Benefit Calculator is on edd.ca.gov and it asks for each quarter's wages separately. I went back through my pay stubs and entered each quarter individually and got a much more accurate estimate than when I just guessed at a total. Worth taking 20 minutes to gather your pay info before using it.

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I have all my stubs in a folder, so this is actually doable for me. Going to do this tonight.

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If you don't have stubs, your old W-2s break it down by year. You'd have to roughly divide by quarters but it gets you in the ballpark.

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Apartment hunting right now while on unemployment and landlords keep asking for proof of income. Anyone know if the DE 429Z works as proof or if there's something else EDD gives you that landlords accept?

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The DE 429Z shows your weekly benefit amount officially, so it's the closest thing EDD gives you to an income document. Whether a landlord accepts it is really their call, not something EDD controls.

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I figured it was worth asking in case there was a standard answer. Sounds like it varies landlord to landlord.

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Printed my DE 429Z plus my bank statements showing the deposits and together that worked for the place I ended up renting. No guarantees but it's what I had.

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Question nobody has asked yet: does unemployment income affect CalFresh? My benefits got cut when I lost my job and I'm wondering if filing for unemployment and getting $400 a week would mess up any food assistance I might qualify for.

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CalFresh does count unemployment benefits as income when you apply, so your payment amount could affect your CalFresh eligibility or the amount you receive. How much it changes things is determined by the county, not EDD. Apply through BenefitsCal or call 1-877-847-3663 and they'll work out your specific situation.

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Okay so I should still apply and let them figure out the numbers rather than assuming I won't qualify. That makes sense.

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Definitely apply. Meeting income requirements for CalFresh is separate from getting unemployment. You could qualify for both depending on where your total income lands relative to the thresholds.

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Eight days into waiting for my DE 429Z after submitting the application and I'm going out of my mind. The UI Online homepage doesn't show me an amount yet, just that the claim is processing. Is there any way to see the weekly benefit amount before the letter arrives or do I literally just wait?

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Processing typically takes about three weeks from when you apply before the first payment goes out. The DE 429Z usually arrives a couple weeks in. EDD's calculator on their site is the only preview you can get until that letter shows up. You can also check UI Online periodically but it won't show the official amount until EDD finishes processing.

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Three weeks feels so long when you have rent due. At least now I know I'm not missing something I should be doing.

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Keep an eye on your mail every day once you hit the two-week mark. Mine showed up on day 13 and that was a relief just to have a number to plan around.

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Just realized I never answered a question the original poster asked: yes, there is an EDD calculator on edd.ca.gov and it's pretty good. Used Claimyr to get through to EDD and confirm the number after I got my DE 429Z because the quarterly breakdown on mine looked off. The agent pulled up my wages and walked me through which quarter came out highest, turned out it was my Q3 from the year before when I'd been working double shifts. My weekly came out to $437. She confirmed the DE 429Z was right and told me my claim would run through next September.

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How long did it take once you got through to the agent to actually resolve the question? Like was it a quick conversation or did they need to put you on hold?

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Honestly pretty quick once I was talking to her, maybe 10 minutes. She could see everything on my claim and answered the quarterly breakdown question right away.

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Taxes thing nobody has mentioned: unemployment payments are federal taxable income. California doesn't tax them, which is a small mercy, but you'll owe federal tax on whatever you collect. EDD lets you choose 10 percent federal withholding at each certification if you don't want a surprise at filing time. You'll also get a 1099G in January, and it's available in UI Online under the Payments section too.

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I had no idea California didn't tax unemployment. That's actually pretty helpful. I'll opt into the federal withholding so I'm not scrambling in April.

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Opting in at certification is easy, it's one of the questions they ask. You can change your answer each time you certify if your situation changes.

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Good call on the withholding. I'd rather have slightly smaller payments now than a bill in April.

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Last week of my claim coming up and I want to flag something for people planning ahead: EDD has California Training Benefits that let you keep collecting without doing the regular work search while you're in an approved training program. It can also add weeks beyond the normal 26. You have to apply for it before your 16th week of benefits though, so don't wait until you're almost out of time.

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The training extension isn't automatic and not every program qualifies. EDD has to approve the specific training, so check with them before you sign up for anything expecting benefits to continue.

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Exactly right, I should have said that. EDD approves the program, you don't just pick any class. Worth asking EDD early if you're considering it.

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Genuinely started my morning stressed about the same question as the original poster and this thread answered most of it. Used Claimyr myself last week when my claim got stuck on a question about why I left my last job. Retail manager position, terminated after a store closure. The agent confirmed EDD had received my employer's response to the DE 1101CZ notice and that there was a phone interview scheduled, date was on the DE 4800 they'd mailed. She said to have my phone free at the time listed and that EDD would decide eligibility after the interview.

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Store closure should mean laid off through no fault of your own, right? Or does EDD still do a full interview even when it's clearly a closure?

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EDD still does the interview when there's any question on record. The agent said the interview is how EDD collects both sides and then makes the eligibility call. I keep my phone charged and near me on the date on the DE 4800.

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Good luck with that interview. Keep all your documentation about the store closure in case they ask you about it.

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