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Aisha Hussain

How long does fact finding take for California EDD unemployment claims?

So I've been going back and forth with California EDD for what feels like forever now and I'm genuinely losing my mind trying to figure out what's happening with my claim. For some context - I was a project manager at a mid-size tech company and got let go about six weeks ago. The separation circumstances were a little complicated (not a clean layoff, there was some performance stuff involved that my employer is probably spinning their own way) so I knew going in that my claim might not be a slam dunk. Filed right away, got my confirmation, did my weekly certifications consistently. Then about two weeks in I get a notice that my claim has been flagged for fact finding. EDD sent me a questionnaire through UI Online asking for my side of the separation story which I filled out immediately and submitted. That was 17 days ago. Since then? Complete silence. No updated status on UI Online, no letters, no calls. Just stuck in what I assume is fact finding or maybe adjudication at this point? I'm honestly not sure if those are the same thing or different stages. My payments are on hold the whole time and I have rent coming up. The main questions I are: 1) How long does fact finding typically take for California EDD? 2) Is there a way to tell if they've actually received and reviewed my questionnaire responses? 3) What happens after fact finding - does it automatically go to adjudication or are those the same process? I'd really appreciate any insight from people who've been through this because the EDD website gives absolutely no useful timeline information.

Fact finding and adjudication are actually part of the same overall process but they're technically different stages. Fact finding is the information-gathering phase where EDD collects statements from both you and your former employer about the separation circumstances. Once they have both sides (or if the employer doesn't respond within their deadline), it moves into adjudication where an EDD interviewer or eligibility examiner actually reviews everything and makes a determination. Typical timelines vary a lot right now. I went through this last year after a complicated separation from my employer - the fact finding questionnaire phase took about 10 days from when I submitted mine, then adjudication took another 3 weeks on top of that before I got a determination letter. So you could be looking at another couple weeks minimum if they're still waiting on your former employer to respond.

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Thank you, this breakdown really helps. Do you know if there's any way to check whether EDD is still waiting on my former employer vs. already having both sides? My UI Online account shows literally nothing useful.

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UI Online is basically useless for tracking fact finding status, unfortunately. It won't show you whether they have your employer's response or not. The only way to actually know where things stand is to call in and speak with a live agent.

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Exactly what the other commenter said. UI Online won't reflect fact finding stages in any meaningful detail. You'd need to call EDD directly to get a real status update on whether both sides have been collected and where in the queue your case sits.

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17 days is actually not that long for fact finding with a contested separation tbh. If there's any dispute between you and your employer about the circumstances - especially if they're claiming you were fired for misconduct vs. you saying it was something else - EDD gives employers like 10 business days to submit their statement. Then the examiner review can take additional time on top of that. I've seen fact finding + adjudication combined take anywhere from 3 weeks to 3 months depending on complexity and how backed up the district office is handling the case.

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Three months??? I genuinely cannot wait three months, my savings are already getting low. Is there anything proactive I can do to speed this up or is it just a waiting game?

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Mostly a waiting game unfortunately. The one thing that CAN help is if you have documentation supporting your version of events - emails, performance reviews, anything in writing. Having that ready for when an examiner does call you can make the determination faster once they actually engage with your case.

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yeah three months is the worst case scenario, don't panic yet. most standard fact finding cases resolve in 4-6 weeks total. the really long ones are usually when there's like a wage dispute or very complicated misconduct allegations on top of the separation issue

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OK so I was in basically this exact situation earlier this year and the thing that finally helped me figure out what was going on was getting through to an actual EDD agent by phone. I know everyone says calling EDD is impossible but I used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that navigates the phone queue for you and actually gets you to a live agent. There's a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10. When I finally got through, the agent was able to tell me exactly what stage my case was in, whether they had my employer's response, and roughly how much longer the examiner review would take. That info alone was worth so much in terms of just knowing what was happening. Might be worth looking into if you need real answers fast rather than just waiting and guessing.

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I'll definitely check this out, calling EDD has been a complete wall for me - either endless hold music or getting disconnected. Did the agent you spoke with actually give you a specific timeline or was it more vague?

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The agent gave me a pretty specific answer - she told me they were waiting on my former employer's response and that the employer had already been contacted twice. She also noted my case in the system so I knew the examiner was aware it was pending. That kind of specific info you literally cannot get any other way except talking to a live agent.

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i was skeptical of claimyr too but ended up using it when my claim was stuck and i needed answers. the fact that you can actually talk to a human who can see your specific case details is honestly invaluable when youre stuck in fact finding limbo

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Something important to keep doing while you wait: DO NOT stop filing your weekly certifications just because you're in fact finding! I see people make this mistake constantly. Keep certifying every week on time even if payments are on hold. Once EDD makes a determination in your favor, they'll release all the held payments going back to when you were first eligible. If you stopped certifying during fact finding you'd lose those weeks permanently.

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Yes, still doing my weekly certs - thanks for the reminder though because I could see how people would stop if they felt like nothing was happening anyway.

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This is so important and I wish someone had told me this the first time I filed. I stopped certifying after 3 weeks because I assumed my claim was dead and lost out on those payments even when I eventually got approved. Don't be like me lol.

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also make sure you're still meeting the job search requirements during fact finding - you need to document at least 3 employer contacts per week and keep your job search log current. EDD can ask about this when they do the eligibility review

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FACT FINDING IS A COMPLETE JOKE. I went through this last year and it took EDD almost 8 weeks to make a determination even though my former employer never even submitted a response. They just let the clock run and run and run while people can't pay rent. The whole system is designed to make you give up and stop claiming. I did everything right, submitted all my documentation, answered every question, and still waited nearly 2 months. Sorry to be negative but people should know what they might be dealing with.

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While I get the frustration, 8 weeks is longer than average - there are definitely cases that get resolved in 2-3 weeks. It really does depend on the complexity of the separation dispute and current EDD workload.

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maybe but everyone i personally know who went through contested separation fact finding waited at least 6 weeks. the 2-3 week thing seems more like simple cases where theres not actually a real dispute

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Both things can be true - simple fact finding cases (like clarifying a date discrepancy or confirming hours) can resolve quickly. Cases involving disputed misconduct allegations or complex separation circumstances will generally take significantly longer. OP's situation sounds like it could fall in the middle range.

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One thing worth understanding about how fact finding works mechanically: after you submit your questionnaire, EDD sends a similar questionnaire to your former employer. The employer has 10 calendar days to respond. If they don't respond, EDD is supposed to proceed with adjudication based on your statement alone, which is generally favorable for the claimant. But in practice EDD sometimes sends second notices to employers or allows more time, which is why the stated 10-day window doesn't always mean adjudication starts on day 11. Once both statements (or just yours if employer doesn't respond) are in the queue, an eligibility interviewer reviews and may call you for a phone interview, or may make the determination based on written statements alone.

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This is really helpful context. So theoretically if my employer doesn't respond by some deadline, EDD should rule in my favor based on my statement? Or is it more complicated than that?

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Not exactly automatic - EDD still has to weigh whether your account of the separation shows you meet the eligibility requirements. But generally if an employer doesn't contest and you've described a situation that qualifies (laid off, or quit for good cause, etc.) then your statement carries the full weight of the determination. Misconduct findings typically require the employer to provide evidence, so lack of response from them is usually a good sign for the claimant.

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this is accurate. my former employer never responded to the fact finding questionnaire and i was approved within a week of the deadline passing. the examiner basically just reviewed my statement and that was that

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wait so during fact finding are you considered fully ineligible or just on hold? like are they technically going to pay you for the weeks youre waiting once it resolves or is each week you certify a separate determination

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Payments are held but weeks you certify are preserved. If EDD determines you're eligible, they release all those held payments at once going back to your benefit year start date or first eligible week. You don't lose those certified weeks, they just sit there pending.

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Exactly right. The weekly certifications are basically preserving your claim for each week. The determination made after fact finding applies retroactively to your entire pending period. One approval unlocks all the held weeks simultaneously.

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oh ok that makes sense. i was confused because i thought each week was like a separate mini-application. good to know the certifications are just preserving the claim

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Something nobody's mentioned yet - make sure your contact information in UI Online is completely current because EDD will call you without much notice for a phone fact finding interview and if they can't reach you they might just make a determination without your input, which could go badly. I'd also recommend keeping your phone nearby and answering unknown numbers during business hours (8am-5pm weekdays) since EDD interviewers call from various numbers and don't always leave detailed voicemails.

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Good point - I just double checked and my phone number and email are current in the system. Do they typically give any advance notice for the phone interview or does it really just come out of nowhere?

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Honestly it can really come out of nowhere. Some people get a letter saying to expect a call in a certain window, some people just get a call from an examiner with no advance notice. The letter-first approach seems to be more common but it's not guaranteed.

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I got a 5-day advance notice letter for my fact finding interview but a coworker of mine got a call with literally no warning. It varies by district office and examiner. Better to be prepared for either.

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Jumping in because I was in fact finding for almost 5 weeks and the only thing that actually moved it forward was talking to a live EDD agent. I'd been trying to get through by phone for two weeks straight with zero luck - constant busy signals, the automated system hanging up, impossible wait times. Finally used Claimyr (claimyr.com) and got connected to an agent within a reasonable time. The agent flagged my case as needing attention because it had been sitting past the standard processing window. I'm not 100% sure if that flag actually did anything but I was approved within 10 days of that call, so maybe? Either way the information I got from actually talking to someone was worth it.

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Did flagging your case as past the processing window actually seem to help or was it just coincidence timing? Trying to decide if it's worth trying to get through to EDD before the determination comes through on its own.

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Honestly hard to say for certain but my instinct is that it did help. The agent noted in the system that the case had been pending past the expected window and said she'd add an internal note. Whether or not that translated to priority treatment I can't prove, but the timing was suggestive.

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Getting through to an EDD agent during fact finding can absolutely help in some situations - particularly if there's been an error in the process like your questionnaire not being received or the employer's response being filed incorrectly. An agent can verify the case documentation is complete which sometimes unsticks things.

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can i ask something semi related - if you get denied after fact finding do you have to start a whole new claim or do you appeal the existing one? asking for a friend who is about to find out their determination

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You appeal the existing determination. You have 30 days from the date on the Notice of Determination to file an appeal. Your appeal goes to an Administrative Law Judge for a hearing. You keep certifying weekly during the appeal period too. Starting a new claim won't help - the eligibility issue from the separation will just follow the claim.

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ok good to know, the appeal process sounds intimidating but at least it's an option. 30 days seems like a pretty tight window though

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30 days from the determination date, not from when you receive it, so don't wait on it. Appeals are actually quite winnable especially for cases where the employer's documentation was weak or where the examiner may not have had complete information. An ALJ hearing gives you a much fuller opportunity to present your side.

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genuinely curious what kind of performance issues were involved if you dont mind sharing? the reason i ask is that the distinction between 'fired for misconduct' and 'fired for performance issues not rising to misconduct' is actually really important for unemployment eligibility in california. plain performance issues (like not meeting quotas, lacking skills for the role) generally do NOT disqualify you. actual misconduct (intentional policy violations, dishonesty, insubordination) can disqualify you. a lot of examiners and even employers don't apply this distinction correctly which is why people with performance-based separations often win their fact finding cases.

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Without going into too much detail - it was more of a 'not meeting expectations' situation, documented through PIPs, not anything involving integrity issues or intentional violations. So based on what you're saying that might actually be in my favor?

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Yes, that's the kind of performance situation that generally does NOT constitute misconduct under California UI law. The legal standard is that misconduct requires intentional disregard of the employer's interests or a willful violation of standards. Failing to meet performance benchmarks, even if documented extensively, typically doesn't meet that bar. Document that framing in your own materials just in case you need to appeal.

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This is correct and worth emphasizing. The California Supreme Court has been pretty clear that performance deficiencies don't equal misconduct in the UI context. If the examiner tries to disqualify you for misconduct based solely on PIP documentation, that's actually very appealable. Keep copies of everything.

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this whole thread is making me anxious about my own claim situation lol. mine isn't in fact finding but I have a separate question - if you're in fact finding does that affect your eligibility for any kind of extension later on? like if you eventually run out of regular benefits

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Fact finding itself doesn't affect extension eligibility - that's determined by your total benefit amount and whether federal or state extended benefits programs are active (which right now there are no federal extended benefit programs active in California). Extensions are a separate question from eligibility determinations.

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ok thanks, was just worried that having any kind of flag on the claim would somehow carry over. good to know it's separate.

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The waiting is THE WORST. I remember sitting there refreshing UI Online every morning like that was going to somehow change something. It doesn't. I was in fact finding for 31 days and I can tell you from experience that the only things that actually give you information are: 1) calling EDD and getting through to an agent, 2) receiving a letter from EDD, or 3) seeing your payment status change in UI Online. Refreshing UI Online obsessively is not on that list lol.

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Ha, guilty of refreshing UI Online way too much. Did you have any luck getting through to EDD by phone during your fact finding period?

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Only once in 31 days and it took me like 3 hours of redial attempts. The agent I spoke to was actually helpful and confirmed my employer had responded and the case was in review. Just having that confirmation made the rest of the wait bearable honestly.

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This is exactly why services like Claimyr (claimyr.com) exist - the hours spent redialing trying to get through is time most people don't have when they're stressed about bills and their claim is on hold. The video at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 explains how the queue navigation works if you haven't tried it yet OP.

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Quick practical note on documentation: if you haven't already, take screenshots of your UI Online showing the date you submitted the fact finding questionnaire and the status as it currently shows. Also note the date you received the original fact finding notice. This creates a paper trail showing how long things have been pending which is useful if: 1) you eventually need to speak to an EDD supervisor about delays, 2) you end up needing to appeal and want to document the timeline, or 3) you need to contact your state assembly rep's office about the delay (which is actually sometimes surprisingly effective at getting stuck claims attention).

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The state assembly rep angle is one I hadn't thought about. Does that actually work? Like a congressional or legislative contact on your behalf?

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State assembly rep more specifically than congressional - they have constituent services staff that sometimes can contact EDD on your behalf. It doesn't always work but for claims stuck well beyond normal processing windows it can draw attention. Senators' offices sometimes too. Obviously not the first step but if you hit 8+ weeks with no movement it's worth trying.

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Confirmed - state assembly constituent services has genuinely helped people get stuck claims moving. The EDD liaison staff these offices have sometimes have direct contacts within EDD that regular claimants don't. Worth keeping in mind as a later-stage option if normal channels fail.

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Something I want to clarify about the timeline question because I see a lot of varying answers: California EDD is legally supposed to make eligibility determinations in a timely manner but there's no statutory deadline for fact finding specifically. The 'unofficial' expectation within EDD is about 21 days from when both sides have submitted their statements, but this is not enforced and there's no penalty for exceeding it. What this means practically: after about 3-4 weeks past your questionnaire submission date with no response, it's reasonable to contact EDD and ask for a status update, which is hard to do without getting through to a live agent.

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So I'm at 17 days past submission - based on what you're saying I'm not quite in the 'follow up aggressively' window yet but getting there. Good to have a benchmark for when to escalate.

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Roughly yes. If you hit 4 weeks past your questionnaire submission with no determination and no contact from EDD, that's when I'd start pushing harder - trying to call, potentially sending a message through UI Online asking for status, etc. Right now you're in the unfortunately normal waiting period.

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Unfortunately' normal is a diplomatic way of describing an absolutely broken system. Claimants are literally unable to pay bills while waiting on a legally undefined timeline. This should requirereform.

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i went through fact finding for 6 weeks and ultimately got approved so there is light at the end of the tunnel. the key things i did that i think helped: answered every question in the questionnaire as thoroughly as possible (even questions that seemed obvious), kept all my weekly certs current, and kept records of everything. i also got through to an EDD agent around week 4 just to confirm the case status and the agent confirmed both statements were in and it was in the examiner queue. that confirmation helped me stop panicking and just wait.

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Six weeks and approved at the end - thank you for sharing this, I really needed to hear a positive outcome story. Did your former employer contest the claim?

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Yes they did contest, claimed it was performance-related termination that they categorized as misconduct. EDD ultimately disagreed with their characterization and found in my favor. The examiner seemed to apply the right legal standard about performance vs misconduct.

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This is really encouraging for OP who seems to have a similar performance-vs-misconduct situation. The fact that they contested and you still won is significant - it shows the examiner actually applied California UI eligibility law correctly rather than just accepting the employer's framing.

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Random question - if EDD calls for a phone fact finding interview and you miss the call, what happens? Do you get rescheduled or does the examiner just make a determination without you?

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This is a real risk. If you miss an EDD fact finding interview call, the examiner may try once more but is not required to reschedule. In some cases they will make the determination based on written statements only, which may or may not be in your favor depending on the case. If you miss a call, contact EDD immediately through UI Online messaging to explain and request rescheduling. Don't wait.

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Yikes ok. That's scary. I have my phone on me all day now just in case. Thanks for the heads up.

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One addition: if an examiner does make a determination without you and you disagree with the outcome, the missed interview isn't necessarily fatal - you still have 30 days to appeal. The appeal hearing with an ALJ is actually a more formal process where you can present your full case, so a missed interview doesn't end your options, it just makes the path longer.

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Has anyone here dealt with fact finding where the employer submitted false information? My situation is that my old company told EDD something that is directly contradicted by documentation I have. Like they made a claim about a specific incident and I have an email chain proving it happened differently. How do you present counter-evidence?

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You can submit supporting documentation through UI Online's document upload feature, or if you receive a phone interview you can describe the evidence and the examiner may request it. If you end up at appeal, that's where documentation like email chains really shines - ALJ hearings allow you to present evidence and the employer also has to back up their claims. A lot of false employer claims fall apart under the formality of an ALJ hearing.

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Good to know about the ALJ hearing. I really hope it doesn't have to go that far but it's reassuring to know there's a formal process where evidence is actually weighed.

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Document upload through UI Online can be a bit clunky but it does work. Make sure if you upload anything you note it in the UI Online message feature too, so there's a communication record that you submitted supporting documentation. Don't just upload and assume someone will find it.

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not to derail but is anyone else finding that the EDD phone system is somehow getting WORSE recently? I've been trying to call about a completely different issue (not fact finding, just a payment discrepancy) and I literally cannot get into the queue at all, I just get the message that they're experiencing high call volume and to try again. This has happened every time I've called for like 2 weeks straight.

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Yeah EDD phone access has been brutal lately. The combination of high call volumes and their phone system cutting people off before they can even get into a queue is genuinely awful. This is honestly why I ended up trying Claimyr - the service basically handles the queue navigation so you're not spending hours redialing. It's at claimyr.com if you want to look into it for your payment discrepancy issue.

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ugh maybe I'll check that out. at this point i've wasted probably 6+ hours on hold attempts for something that should be a simple fix. the fact that simple issues are this hard to resolve is really demoralizing.

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6 hours is actually pretty on par for what many people report spending before they get through on a regular basis. The EDD phone situation has been a running issue for years at this point. Any solution that actually gets you to a human faster is worth knowing about.

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Update for everyone following this: I finally got through to a live EDD agent this morning (used Claimyr like someone mentioned earlier - actually worked really well, first time I've talked to a real person since this whole thing started). The agent confirmed that both my questionnaire AND my former employer's response are in the system and the case has been assigned to an examiner. She couldn't give me a specific date but said the case is 'in active review' which she said was a different status than just sitting in queue. I'm at 21 days since I submitted my questionnaire. Feeling cautiously optimistic now that at least the process is moving. Will update when I get a determination.

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Great news that both statements are in and it's assigned to an examiner! 'Active review' is definitely better than sitting in queue. Based on what you've described - PIP-based performance separation, not misconduct - I'd be genuinely surprised if you don't come out of this approved. Fingers crossed.

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This is the best update you could have gotten without the actual approval. Knowing both statements are in and it's with an examiner means you're genuinely in the final stage of the process. The waiting now is measured in days to weeks, not weeks to months.

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Glad getting through to an agent helped clarify things! That's exactly the kind of status information you can only get from a live person who can see your actual case. Rooting for a quick and favorable determination for you.

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