Fighting an EDD disqualification - do I need a lawyer?
I just got disqualified from my unemployment benefits after my eligibility interview. The EDD is claiming I voluntarily quit my job without good cause, but that's completely untrue. My boss basically forced me out by cutting my hours to just 8 hours a week (from 40) and moving me to the night shift knowing I have childcare issues. When I couldn't make those shifts work, he told me not to come back. Now EDD is asking me to repay $5,800! I've already filed an appeal but I'm wondering if I should hire a lawyer. Has anyone gone through this process with or without legal help? What was your experience? Did having a lawyer make any difference in winning your appeal? I'm really stressed about potentially having to repay all that money, but lawyer fees aren't cheap either.
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Rebecca Johnston
I used a lawyer for my appeal hearing last year and it was WORTH EVERY PENNY! I was facing a similar situation (constructive discharge that EDD labeled as voluntary quit) and had to fight a $7,200 overpayment. My attorney cost $1,200 but she knew exactly what documents to prepare, what questions would be asked, and how to present my case. We won and I didn't have to repay anything. The consultation was free so you could at least talk to someone before deciding. If you want the name of who I used, DM me.
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KingKongZilla
•Thanks for sharing! That's really helpful. Was it just one hearing with the judge or did you have to go through multiple steps? I'm curious about the timeline too - how long did it take from when you filed the appeal until everything was resolved?
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Nathan Dell
I won my appeal without a lawyer. If your case is straightforward and you have good documentation, you might be able to handle it yourself. Make sure you have: - Text messages or emails showing your boss changed your hours - Proof of your previous schedule - Any witnesses who can testify about the situation - Your own written timeline of events The administrative law judges are generally fair in my experience. They understand labor law and know that drastically cutting hours can constitute constructive discharge. Just be organized and stick to facts during your hearing.
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Maya Jackson
•This is good advice! I also won my appeal without a lawyer. The key is DOCUMENTATION!!! I printed out every single email and text exchange with my employer. Made a timeline like you suggested. The judge saw right through my employer's BS. Took about 3 months from appeal to decision but was worth the wait.
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Tristan Carpenter
My cousin had a simular thing happen and she didnt hire a laywer and lost her appeal. Then they made her pay back like $4000 plus a 30% penalty!!! i think it depends how complicated ur case is and if u can talk good at the hearing. some people get nervus and cant explain there side good.
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Amaya Watson
•This is a good point. The penalty for "willful misrepresentation" can be pretty severe - 30% penalty plus potential disqualification for weeks of future benefits (penalty weeks). If the EDD is claiming you deliberately misrepresented something rather than just disagreeing about your eligibility, that might be a case where legal help makes more sense.
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Grant Vikers
Have you tried contacting EDD to just discuss your case? I know their phone lines are always jammed but I've heard some people have luck using that Claimyr service to get through faster (claimyr.com). They have a video demo here: https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10?si=TSwYbu_GOwYzt9km that shows how it works. Sometimes getting a different EDD rep on the phone can make all the difference - the first person who reviewed my case denied me but when I finally reached someone else they were much more understanding of my situation and actually helped correct it without needing the formal appeal.
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KingKongZilla
•Thanks for the suggestion! I've tried calling EDD about 30 times in the past week and can't get through. I'll check out that service. At this point, I think I still need to go forward with the appeal since they've already made the determination, but maybe talking to someone could help me understand my chances better.
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Giovanni Martello
Sorry you're dealing with this! What your employer did is called "constructive discharge" - basically forcing you to quit by making conditions impossible. I went through a similar situation in 2024 and represented myself at the appeal hearing. Here's what helped me win: 1. I brought a witness (my coworker) who confirmed the schedule change 2. I had copies of my old schedule vs. new schedule 3. I documented every conversation with my manager about my childcare constraints 4. I cited specific CA labor cases about constructive discharge The judge ruled in my favor because I proved I had no reasonable alternative. The hearing was intimidating but not as formal as a regular court. Your employer will likely be there to tell their side too.
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KingKongZilla
•Thank you for the detailed response! I do have texts where I explained to my boss that I couldn't work those hours due to childcare, and his response was basically "that's not my problem." I also have my old schedules saved in my phone calendar. Do you think I should look up specific cases to cite? I wouldn't even know where to start with that part.
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Amaya Watson
It depends on how complex your case is, but I'll share what I've learned from working with unemployment cases. A reduction from 40 hours to 8 hours is a material change in employment terms that often qualifies as good cause to leave, especially when combined with shift changes that conflict with childcare. This falls under constructive discharge. Representing yourself is definitely possible if you: 1. Stay organized with documentation 2. Keep your testimony clear and emotional-free 3. Focus on the facts of your work schedule change and childcare constraints 4. Emphasize that you attempted to make it work but it was not viable In your specific situation with $5,800 at stake, a consultation with an employment attorney might be worthwhile. Many offer free initial consultations. Legal aid organizations sometimes help with unemployment appeals for free if you qualify financially.
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KingKongZilla
•Thank you for the detailed insight. I'll try calling some attorneys that offer free consultations. Do you know if legal aid organizations typically have long wait times? I'm worried about meeting the appeal deadlines.
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Savannah Weiner
DONT GET A LAWYER!! Complete waste of money!!! The EDD system is RIGGED anyway. My lawyer charged me $850 and we still lost the appeal. The judges always side with EDD no matter what evidence you bring.
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Maya Jackson
•That's not true at all. I won my appeal and so have plenty of other people on this forum. Sorry you had a bad experience but making sweeping statements like that isn't helpful.
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Rebecca Johnston
One thing nobody has mentioned - check if your former employer is even going to contest the appeal. Sometimes they don't bother showing up to the hearing, which makes it MUCH easier to win your case. You could potentially call your former HR department (not your boss) and ask if they plan to participate in the appeal hearing. If they don't, self-representation becomes much more viable.
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KingKongZilla
•That's a really interesting point I hadn't considered. It's a small company (only about 15 employees) without a formal HR department, but I could try to find out if the owner plans to participate. If he doesn't show up, would that basically mean I win by default?
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Amaya Watson
•Not exactly a default win. The judge will still review the evidence and make a determination, but without the employer there to contradict your testimony, it's generally much easier to make your case. You'd still need to explain the circumstances clearly and provide whatever documentation you have.
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