EDD Appeal Process - Can Judge Make Decision Without Hearing? Urgent Help Needed
I got disqualified from my unemployment benefits last week because my employer claimed I was fired for misconduct (which is NOT true - I was laid off due to budget cuts!). I filed an appeal through UI Online right away, but I'm terrified about having to appear before a judge. I have really bad anxiety and the thought of a formal hearing is making me physically sick. Does anyone know if there's a chance the judge could review my case and make a decision without requiring a hearing? Can they do it by mail or phone instead? I've never gone through this process before and I don't know what to expect. Already waited 45 minutes on hold with EDD before being disconnected... I just need to plan mentally for what's coming next.
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Paolo Bianchi
In most cases with EDD appeals, you DO have to attend a hearing with an Administrative Law Judge (ALJ). These are usually phone hearings now though, not in-person, so that might ease your anxiety a bit. The judge needs to hear both sides (you and your employer) to decide who's telling the truth about the circumstances of your separation. It's rare but technically possible for a judge to make a decision without a hearing if your appeal documents and your employer's response make it crystal clear what happened. But honestly, I've only seen that happen when the employer doesn't respond at all. Don't stress too much - these hearings are pretty informal. The judge asks questions to understand what happened, and you just need to tell your truth. Make sure you have any documentation proving you were laid off for budget reasons (emails, termination letter, etc).
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Keisha Thompson
•Thank you for the info! I'm a little relieved that it could be by phone at least. Do you know approximately how long it takes to get the hearing scheduled? I'm trying to figure out my budget situation in the meantime.
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Yara Assad
my freind had same thing happen n they just got letter in mail with desission. no hearing! so it can happin but dont count on it
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Olivia Clark
•That's not common though. Your friend probably got lucky because their employer didn't contest the appeal or submit any evidence. I've been through 2 EDD appeals and both times had to do the phone hearing. The system is totally backed up right now too, my second appeal took almost 3 months just to get scheduled!!
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Javier Morales
I've helped several people with EDD appeals, and here's how it typically works: 1. After you file your appeal, you'll get a packet in the mail with an acknowledgment and then later a hearing notice with the date/time (usually 3-6 weeks from filing) 2. The ALJ CAN technically make a decision without a hearing, but this only happens in about 5% of cases where either: - The employer doesn't respond at all - The documentation is so clear-cut that no testimony is needed - Both parties agree to the same facts 3. For misconduct cases specifically, they almost always require a hearing because it comes down to credibility of conflicting stories. If your anxiety is severe, you can submit a request for accommodation to the appeals board. They might allow you to submit a written statement instead, but it's not guaranteed. My advice: Prepare as if you'll have a hearing. Gather any emails, performance reviews, or communications that show you were laid off for budget reasons rather than fired for misconduct. The burden of proof is on your employer to prove misconduct, which is a high standard.
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Keisha Thompson
•This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I have some emails from my manager mentioning budget cuts before I was let go, so I'll definitely gather those. The 3-6 week timeframe helps me plan too. I guess I'll just have to prepare myself mentally for the phone hearing.
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Natasha Petrov
You know what's RIDICULOUS is that EDD automatically sides with employers 90% of the time without even investigating!!!! I got disqualified for "misconduct" too when all I did was call out sick ONE TIME with doctor's note!!! The appeals process is a JOKE - took 4 months to get a hearing and judge was CLEARLY biased. The whole system is designed to deny benefits any way they can. Don't get your hopes up.
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Paolo Bianchi
•I understand your frustration, but this isn't entirely accurate and might unnecessarily stress out the OP. While the initial EDD determination often favors employers (closer to 60-70%, not 90%), the appeals process is actually pretty fair. About 50% of claimants who appeal end up winning. Judges are independent from EDD and review each case on its merits. I've seen plenty of cases where the determination was reversed.
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Connor O'Brien
Have you tried contacting EDD to discuss your appeal status? I was in a similar situation last month and really needed to talk to someone to understand what was happening with my case. After days of calling and getting nowhere, a friend recommended I try Claimyr. It's a service that helps you get through to an EDD representative without spending hours on hold. Their website is claimyr.com and they have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10?si=TSwYbu_GOwYzt9km I was skeptical but it actually worked - got through to someone who explained my appeal process and answered all my questions. Might be worth checking out if you need specific answers about your situation.
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Keisha Thompson
•I hadn't heard of this service before! After getting disconnected multiple times, I'm definitely willing to try anything that might help me talk to a real person. I'll check out the video and see if it might work for my situation. Thanks for the tip!
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Amina Diallo
i had appeal last yr and did phone hearing. it was way less scary than i thought!! judge was nice and just asked questions. make sure u have good phone connection and be somewhere quiet. my employer didnt even show up to the call and i won automatically lol
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Keisha Thompson
•That's reassuring to hear! Did you have to present evidence or anything formal like that? Or was it mostly just answering the judge's questions?
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Amina Diallo
•just answered questions! had some emails ready but didnt even need em. call only took like 20 mins
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Olivia Clark
Quick question for anyone who knows - for the appeal hearing, do I need a lawyer? Or can I represent myself? I obviously can't afford legal help right now since I'm not getting my unemployment benefits...
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Javier Morales
•You absolutely do NOT need a lawyer for an EDD appeal hearing. The process is designed for people to represent themselves. The ALJ will guide the conversation and ask questions - it's not like a formal court. That said, if your case is particularly complex or there are legal issues involved, some legal aid organizations offer free help with unemployment appeals. You can check with Legal Aid in your county. But most people successfully handle these hearings on their own with good preparation.
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Paolo Bianchi
Since you're dealing with a misconduct allegation, here's what you should prepare for the hearing (which is very likely to happen): 1. A clear timeline of events leading to your separation 2. Any documentation showing budget cuts were happening (emails, memos, notices) 3. Performance reviews showing you were in good standing 4. Names of any witnesses who can verify budget cuts were happening 5. A brief, factual explanation of why you believe this was a layoff, not misconduct Stick to facts rather than emotions during the hearing. The judge will appreciate a clear, straightforward account. And remember - the burden of proof is on your employer to prove misconduct, which has a specific legal definition (willful disregard of employer's interests). Budget-related layoffs are not misconduct.
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Keisha Thompson
•This is really helpful advice - thank you! I have my last two performance reviews which were both positive, and some company-wide emails about budget tightening. I'll put together that timeline and practice explaining the situation clearly. I feel a bit more prepared now.
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Rhett Bowman
I went through a similar situation about 8 months ago - employer falsely claimed misconduct when I was clearly laid off due to company restructuring. The anxiety about the hearing was honestly the worst part! Here's what helped me: I called the appeals office directly (not the main EDD line) and asked about the possibility of a summary judgment without a hearing. The clerk explained that it CAN happen if the documentation is overwhelmingly clear, but it's rare. In my case, I had to do the phone hearing. BUT here's the good news - it was SO much easier than I expected. The judge was professional and patient. They asked my employer to present their evidence first, then I got to respond. The whole thing took maybe 30 minutes. I had my emails and documents ready, told my story clearly, and won. My advice: prepare for the hearing but don't panic. Practice explaining your situation out loud beforehand. The fact that you have documentation about budget cuts puts you in a strong position. Misconduct has a very specific legal definition and budget layoffs definitely don't qualify. You've got this! The appeals process actually works when you have the truth on your side.
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CosmicCaptain
•Thank you so much for sharing your experience! It's really reassuring to hear from someone who went through the exact same thing. I'm definitely going to try calling the appeals office directly - I didn't even know that was an option. The fact that you won gives me hope that this will work out. I'll practice explaining my situation out loud like you suggested. Really appreciate you taking the time to share the details about how your hearing went!
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Maya Patel
I'm going through something similar right now and this thread has been so helpful! Just wanted to add that when I called EDD about my appeal timeline, they mentioned that if you have really severe anxiety about phone hearings, you can request an accommodation through the Office of Appeals. They might allow you to submit additional written testimony or have other modifications to help with anxiety. Also, one thing that helped me prepare was writing down all the key points I wanted to make beforehand. That way even if I got nervous during the call, I had my notes right there. The judges are used to people being anxious and they're generally pretty understanding. From what I've learned, the cases that get decided without hearings are usually when the employer completely fails to respond or when there's like a clear paper trail showing obvious wrongful termination. For misconduct claims, they almost always want to hear from both sides directly. Hang in there - sounds like you have good documentation and the truth on your side!
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Royal_GM_Mark
•This is really great advice about the accommodation options - I hadn't thought about requesting modifications for anxiety! Writing down key points beforehand is such a smart idea too. I tend to get flustered and forget what I wanted to say when I'm nervous, so having notes will definitely help. It's encouraging to know that judges are understanding about people being anxious. I'm feeling more confident that I can get through this process now. Thank you for the practical tips!
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Omar Fawaz
I'm a newcomer to this community but dealing with a very similar situation! My employer also falsely claimed misconduct when I was clearly part of layoffs due to "company restructuring." Reading through everyone's experiences here has been incredibly helpful and reassuring. I was also terrified about the hearing process, but it sounds like the phone hearings are much more manageable than I imagined. One question I have - for those who went through the appeals process, how important was it to have witness contact information? I have a coworker who was laid off the same day as me and could verify that multiple people were let go for budget reasons, but I'm not sure if I should reach out to them or if my documentation will be enough. Also, has anyone had success with requesting accommodations through the Office of Appeals? I have diagnosed anxiety disorder and the thought of even a phone hearing is causing panic attacks. Thank you all for sharing your experiences - this thread is giving me hope that there's light at the end of this tunnel!
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Tristan Carpenter
•Welcome to the community! I'm so glad you found this thread helpful - it's been a lifesaver for me too. Regarding witnesses, from what I've learned here and through my own research, having a coworker who was laid off the same day would actually be REALLY valuable. Even if you have good documentation, having someone who can verify that multiple people were let go for budget reasons adds credibility to your case. I'd definitely reach out to them - they don't have to physically appear, they can just be available by phone during your hearing if needed. As for accommodations, @Maya Patel mentioned this option and it sounds promising! Since you have diagnosed anxiety, you should absolutely request accommodations through the Office of Appeals. They might allow written testimony or other modifications that could help reduce your anxiety while still giving you a fair hearing. You re'right that there s'light at the end of the tunnel! From everyone s'experiences here, it sounds like when you have the truth and documentation on your side which (you clearly do ,)the appeals process actually works. The fact that you were laid off with others on the same day for company restructuring makes this pretty cut and dry - that s'not misconduct by any legal definition. Stay strong! We re'all rooting for you!
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Michael Green
Hi everyone! I'm new to this community but unfortunately dealing with a very similar situation. My employer also falsely claimed I was terminated for misconduct when I was actually part of workforce reduction due to budget constraints. Reading through all of your experiences has been incredibly reassuring - especially hearing that the phone hearings are much more informal and manageable than I initially feared. The anxiety about this process has been overwhelming, so knowing that judges are generally patient and understanding really helps. I wanted to ask - for those who successfully appealed misconduct determinations, how detailed did you get in explaining the company's financial situation? I have emails mentioning budget cuts and cost-saving measures, but I'm wondering if I should try to gather more specific information about the company's financial state or if that's getting too deep into the weeds. Also, @Javier Morales mentioned that the burden of proof is on the employer to prove misconduct - does this mean I should focus more on disproving their claims or on proving it was actually a layoff? I want to make sure I'm approaching this the right way. Thank you all for creating such a supportive discussion here. It's giving me confidence that I can get through this process!
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Yara Nassar
•Welcome to the community! Your situation sounds very similar to what many of us have gone through, so you're definitely in the right place for support and advice. Regarding your questions about financial details - from my experience and what I've learned here, you don't need to get too deep into the company's specific financial state. The emails you have mentioning budget cuts and cost-saving measures are exactly what you need. Focus on clear, simple evidence that shows layoffs were happening for business reasons rather than performance issues. As for the burden of proof question, @Javier Morales is absolutely right that the employer has to prove misconduct. I d'suggest a two-pronged approach: 1 Present) your evidence that it was a layoff those (budget emails, any termination paperwork that mentions restructuring, etc. and) 2 Be) ready to address whatever specific misconduct "claims" they make. Since misconduct requires willful disregard of the employer s'interests, budget-driven layoffs simply don t'meet that legal standard. The key is to stay factual and organized in your presentation. Practice explaining your timeline clearly - when the budget discussions started, when you and others were let go, etc. The documentation you already have sounds solid! You ve'got this! The appeals process really does work when you have the truth on your side.
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Jackson Carter
Hi Keisha! I'm new to this community but unfortunately going through a similar situation right now. My employer also falsely claimed misconduct when I was clearly laid off due to company downsizing. Reading through this entire thread has been incredibly helpful and reassuring! I was also panicking about the hearing process, but everyone's experiences make it sound much more manageable than I feared. One thing I wanted to add that might help with your anxiety - I found out that you can actually request to have a support person with you during the phone hearing (like a family member or friend who can just be there for moral support, not to speak). They can't participate in the hearing, but having someone there might help calm your nerves. Also, based on what everyone has shared here, it sounds like your case is really strong. You have documentation of budget cuts AND you were proactive about filing your appeal quickly. The fact that you know it was budget-related layoffs (not misconduct) and you have evidence to back that up puts you in a good position. The waiting and uncertainty is definitely the hardest part, but from everything I've read here, when people have the truth and documentation on their side like you do, the appeals process actually works. Hang in there - you've got this!
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Anna Stewart
•Thank you so much for the support and for mentioning the option to have someone there for moral support during the hearing! I hadn't heard about that before and it would definitely help with my anxiety knowing I could have a friend or family member nearby even if they can't speak. It's really encouraging to hear from so many people who've been through similar situations. This whole experience has been so stressful, but reading everyone's advice and success stories is giving me the confidence I need to get through this. The fact that multiple people here have mentioned that the truth and good documentation usually win out in these appeals is exactly what I needed to hear. I'm going to start organizing all my evidence and practicing how I'll explain the timeline of events. Thanks again for the reassurance - it means more than you know!
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Carmen Diaz
Hey there! I'm new to this community but unfortunately dealing with a very similar situation. My employer also claimed misconduct when I was actually laid off due to budget cuts - it's so frustrating when they try to twist the narrative like that! Reading through everyone's experiences here has been incredibly reassuring. I was also terrified about the hearing process, but it sounds like the phone hearings are much more informal and manageable than I initially thought. One thing that's helped me prepare is creating a simple timeline document with dates and key events - when budget discussions started at the company, when layoffs were announced, when I was terminated, etc. It helps keep everything organized and gives me something concrete to reference if I get nervous during the hearing. Also, I wanted to mention that I've found it helpful to practice explaining my situation out loud to a family member. It sounds silly, but it really does help you get comfortable with telling your story clearly and concisely. From everything I've read here and researched myself, misconduct has a very specific legal definition and budget-related layoffs absolutely don't qualify. The fact that you have emails about budget cuts puts you in a really strong position. You're definitely not alone in this - sounds like there are a lot of us going through similar situations right now. Stay strong and keep us updated on how it goes!
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Zoe Gonzalez
•Welcome to the community! I'm also new here but dealing with a similar false misconduct claim when I was clearly laid off for budget reasons. It's so frustrating when employers try to avoid paying unemployment by making false claims! Your advice about creating a timeline document is really smart - I'm going to do that too. Having everything organized with dates will definitely help during the hearing. And practicing out loud is a great idea, even if it feels awkward at first. It's been really encouraging to see how many people in this thread have successfully appealed these types of false misconduct claims. The common theme seems to be that when you have documentation (like those budget cut emails) and stick to the facts, the truth usually wins out. Thanks for the practical tips and for sharing your experience. It helps so much to know we're not going through this alone. Wishing you the best with your appeal!
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Carlos Mendoza
Hi Keisha! I'm new to this community but unfortunately dealing with a very similar situation. My employer also falsely claimed misconduct when I was clearly part of layoffs due to company restructuring. Reading through this entire thread has been incredibly helpful and reassuring! I was also panicking about the hearing process, but everyone's shared experiences make it sound much more manageable than I initially feared. One thing I wanted to add that might help - I just learned that you can actually call the Office of Appeals directly (separate from the main EDD number) to ask specific questions about your case timeline and process. The number is different from the regular EDD line and supposedly has shorter wait times. Also, from everything I've read here, it sounds like your case is really strong. You filed your appeal quickly, you have documentation about budget cuts, and you know the truth about what happened. The fact that so many people in this thread have successfully overturned false misconduct claims gives me hope for both of us. The anxiety is definitely the worst part of this whole process, but having this supportive community and hearing real success stories is making me feel more confident about facing the hearing. Thank you for starting this discussion - it's helping so many of us going through similar situations!
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GalacticGuardian
•Welcome to the community, Carlos! I'm also new here but have been following this thread closely since I'm dealing with a similar false misconduct claim. It's amazing how helpful everyone has been with sharing their experiences and advice. That's a great tip about calling the Office of Appeals directly! I didn't know there was a separate number with shorter wait times. Do you happen to have that number, or do you know where to find it? After getting disconnected from the main EDD line multiple times, I'd love to try a different approach. It's so encouraging to see how many people here have successfully overturned these false misconduct determinations. Reading everyone's stories is definitely helping me feel more prepared and less anxious about the whole process. The common theme seems to be that when you have documentation and the truth on your side, the appeals process actually works. Thanks for adding to this discussion - the more perspectives we have, the better prepared we'll all be for our hearings!
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Angelica Smith
Hi Keisha! I'm new to this community but unfortunately dealing with a very similar situation - my employer also falsely claimed misconduct when I was clearly laid off due to budget constraints. Reading through this entire thread has been incredibly helpful! I was also terrified about the hearing process, but everyone's experiences here make it sound much more manageable than I expected. The fact that it's usually just a phone call with an informal conversation rather than a formal courtroom setting is really reassuring. One thing that's helped me prepare is organizing all my documentation into a simple folder - emails about budget cuts, any termination paperwork, performance reviews, etc. Having everything in one place makes me feel more prepared and less anxious about the process. From what I've learned here, your case sounds really strong. You have documentation of budget cuts, you filed your appeal promptly, and you know the truth about what happened. Misconduct has a very specific legal definition, and budget-related layoffs absolutely don't qualify. The anxiety is definitely the hardest part, but this community has shown me that when people have the truth and documentation on their side like you do, the appeals process really does work. You've got this! Keep us updated on how it goes.
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Nalani Liu
•Welcome to the community, Angelica! It's unfortunate that so many of us are dealing with these false misconduct claims, but it's really helpful to have this supportive group sharing experiences and advice. Your tip about organizing all documentation into one folder is excellent! I've been gathering my emails and paperwork but hadn't thought about putting it all in one organized place. That will definitely help me feel more prepared and less scattered during the hearing. It's so encouraging to hear from multiple people that the appeals process actually works when you have documentation and the truth on your side. Reading everyone's success stories in this thread has really helped calm my anxiety about the whole situation. Thanks for the reassurance about my case being strong - I'm trying to stay positive and focus on preparing thoroughly rather than worrying about things I can't control. This community has been such a lifeline during this stressful time!
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Luca Russo
Hi Keisha! I'm new to this community but unfortunately going through a similar situation. My employer also falsely claimed misconduct when I was actually laid off due to company-wide budget cuts - it's incredibly frustrating when they try to avoid paying unemployment benefits this way! Reading through this entire discussion has been so helpful and reassuring. I was also terrified about the hearing process, but everyone's experiences here show that it's much more manageable than I initially thought. The phone format and informal nature of the hearings sounds way less intimidating than a formal courtroom setting. From everything shared here, your case sounds really strong. You have documentation of budget cuts, you filed your appeal quickly, and most importantly - you have the truth on your side. Multiple people in this thread have mentioned that misconduct has a very specific legal definition, and budget-related layoffs absolutely don't meet that standard. One thing that's helped me prepare is writing out a simple timeline of events with key dates - when budget issues started being discussed at the company, when layoffs began, when I was terminated, etc. Having that structure ready makes me feel more organized and confident about explaining my situation clearly. The anxiety is definitely the worst part of this whole process, but this community has shown me that the appeals process really does work when people have documentation and truth like you do. You're not alone in this - we're all rooting for you! Please keep us updated on how everything goes.
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