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EDD appeal hearing question - does my ex-employer show up at the judge meeting?

I just got my notice for an appeal hearing with EDD after being disqualified for "misconduct" (which is total BS - I was let go because the company was downsizing, but my manager had it out for me and reported it differently). The hearing is scheduled for March 18th, 2025 at 10:45am by phone. This is my first time dealing with appeals and I'm nervous about how it works. Will my former employer be on the call too? Or is it just me and the judge? If my old boss is there, I'm worried they'll just keep lying about why I was terminated. What exactly happens during these hearings? Do I need to prepare anything specific? Also, if anyone has actually WON their appeal after being disqualified, I'd love to hear what worked for you. I'm really stressing about this!

Landon Morgan

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Yes, your former employer will almost certainly be on the call too. The Administrative Law Judge (ALJ) conducts these hearings with both parties present so they can hear both sides of the story. You'll each have a chance to present your case and provide evidence. I had my appeal hearing last year and won after initially being disqualified. Here's what helped me: 1. Gather any documentation showing you were laid off due to downsizing (emails, termination letter, etc.) 2. Prepare a clear timeline of events 3. Be ready to calmly explain your side without getting emotional 4. If other employees were also laid off at the same time, note that in your testimony The judge will ask you questions and then your employer questions. Then you'll each have a chance to respond to what the other person said. Be honest, stick to facts, and don't interrupt when others are speaking.

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Ellie Perry

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Thank you for this info! Ugh, I was afraid they'd be on the call too. Do you know if I can have someone with me for support, like a friend or family member? Or is that not allowed?

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Teresa Boyd

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Yep ur old boss will definitely be there. thats the whole point cuz they need to figure out who's telling the truth. my hearing was super stressful ngl. my manager kept interupting me and the judge had to tell him to stop like 3 times lol

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Lourdes Fox

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Did you win your appeal? I'm curious how often the judge sides with the employee vs. the employer in these cases. Seems like the deck is stacked against us regular folks!

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Bruno Simmons

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Yes, both you and your employer will be at the hearing. These are called "de novo" hearings, which means the judge is looking at your case fresh without considering EDD's prior determination. I'm an employment attorney, and I've helped many clients through these hearings. Here's what you should know: 1. The appeal hearing typically lasts 30-45 minutes 2. The burden of proof is on your employer to prove misconduct (not on you) 3. "Misconduct" has a specific legal definition for UI purposes - it must be a deliberate disregard of the employer's interests 4. A simple downsizing or even poor performance is NOT misconduct Prepare by collecting any documentation showing the real reason for termination. If you have coworkers who were also laid off in the same downsizing, their testimony could be valuable. The judge will mail you their decision within 1-2 weeks after the hearing.

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Ellie Perry

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Thank you for the detailed explanation! That makes me feel better knowing the burden of proof is on them. I didn't realize it was that specific. I do have the company-wide email about the downsizing that went out a week before I was let go, so I'll definitely have that ready.

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It was worth every penny for me because I needed specific info before my hearing. I was spending hours redailing EDD with no luck. But you do what works for your situation - if you already have all the info you need for your appeal, you might not need it.

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Maggie Martinez

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My hearing was BRUTAL!!!! My ex boss brought their HR person AND a lawyer!!! I was all alone and they ganged up on me. Judge let them talk for like 20 minutes and I only got 5 minutes! System is RIGGED!!!

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Landon Morgan

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That's unusual - generally the Administrative Law Judge is careful to give both sides equal time. If you feel your hearing wasn't conducted fairly, you can appeal the judge's decision to the California Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board within 30 days. Did you ultimately win or lose your case?

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Maggie Martinez

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I LOST!! OF COURSE!! And then I had to pay back $4,300!!! Now Im in debt AND unemployed!!

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Lourdes Fox

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I had my appeal hearing 3 months ago. My ex-boss was definitely there but he actually messed up their case by contradicting himself multiple times. The judge picked up on this and I ended up winning my appeal! One thing no one mentioned yet - you can request a postponement if you need more time to prepare. Just call the appeals office number on your hearing notice. Also, even though it's a phone hearing, treat it like you're in court - be super respectful, don't interrupt, and refer to the judge as "Your Honor."

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Ellie Perry

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Thanks for the tip about being respectful! I'll definitely do that. Did you have any written notes in front of you during the call? I was thinking about writing down my main points so I don't get flustered and forget something important.

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Lourdes Fox

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Yes! I had notes and all my documents spread out in front of me. The nice thing about phone hearings is they can't see you looking at your notes. I wrote out a timeline, key points I wanted to make, and had all my evidence organized. Really helped me stay calm and not miss anything important.

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Zane Gray

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my friend had her appeal last month and her boss didnt show up so she automatically won! guess it depends if they care enough to fight it

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Bruno Simmons

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This is correct. If the employer doesn't appear at the hearing, they typically can't meet their burden of proving misconduct, so the claimant usually wins by default. However, employers with dedicated HR departments or those using unemployment claim management services usually do attend, especially in misconduct cases.

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Landon Morgan

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One more important tip - make sure you're in a quiet place with good phone reception for your hearing call. If you have a headset or earbuds with a microphone, use them. I've seen cases where people were driving or in noisy places during their hearing, and it made a terrible impression on the judge. Also, don't be surprised if the hearing starts late. The judges often schedule several hearings back-to-back, and if earlier ones run long, yours might start 15-30 minutes after the scheduled time. Just be patient and stay by your phone.

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Ellie Perry

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That's a great point about being in a quiet place. I'll plan to be at home in my bedroom with the door closed. My roommates can be pretty loud so I'll make sure to let them know I need quiet during that time. How long does the judge usually take to make a decision after the hearing? The waiting is going to kill me.

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Landon Morgan

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You should receive the judge's written decision by mail within 10-14 days after the hearing. Sometimes it can be faster, but with current EDD backlogs, two weeks is pretty standard. The decision will clearly state whether your appeal was granted or denied, along with the judge's reasoning.

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