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I'm a tax professional who works with a lot of EDD clients, and I want to add some additional context that might help everyone here. The confusion around gross vs net reporting often stems from the fact that EDD's online system and phone representatives don't always give consistent guidance, which is incredibly frustrating. Here's what I tell my clients: For sole proprietors and single-member LLCs (taxed as sole proprietors), you should report NET income after legitimate business expenses. However, the key word is "legitimate" - EDD may scrutinize expenses that seem personal in nature or unreasonable for your type of business. I also strongly recommend getting everything in writing when you speak with EDD reps. Email them after your call summarizing what they told you and ask for written confirmation. This creates a paper trail that can protect you if there's a dispute later. One more critical point: if you're claiming unemployment while starting a business, consider consulting with a tax professional early on. The intersection of unemployment benefits, self-employment tax, and business deductions can get complex quickly, and it's much cheaper to get advice upfront than to deal with audit issues later. Many of us offer initial consultations specifically for people in this situation.
@Dylan Wright This is incredibly valuable advice, especially the part about getting everything in writing from EDD reps! I ve'been relying on phone conversations but never thought to follow up with email confirmation. That s'such a smart way to protect yourself. As someone just starting out with my design consulting business, I m'realizing I probably need professional help navigating this properly. Do you have any recommendations for finding tax professionals who specifically understand the unemployment/self-employment intersection? I m'worried about choosing someone who isn t'familiar with EDD requirements and might give me incorrect guidance. Also, what kind of initial consultation fee should I expect for this type of situation? The point about legitimate "business" expenses is also really important - I want to make sure I m'not claiming anything that could be questioned later. Better to be conservative with deductions than risk an audit nightmare!
I went through this exact situation about 6 months ago when I started my marketing consultancy while collecting UI benefits. The anxiety about getting it wrong is real, but here's what worked for me: 1. I set up a dedicated business checking account immediately to keep everything separate 2. Used a simple Google Sheet to track DAILY: hours worked, tasks performed, income received, and expenses paid 3. Always reported NET income (revenue minus expenses) on my bi-weekly certifications 4. Was super careful about the 32-hour rule - I actually set a phone alarm for Sundays to calculate my weekly hours The game-changer was treating my business hours like a part-time job with set "shifts." I worked Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday from 9-5 on client work and business development, then dedicated Monday/Friday to job searching. This kept me under 32 hours most weeks and made it easier to track everything. One thing I learned the hard way: even unpaid activities count as work hours! Time spent on networking calls, updating your website, or creating proposals all count toward that 32-hour limit. I initially wasn't tracking these "non-billable" hours and was probably going over the limit without realizing it. The good news is that once you establish a good tracking system, it becomes routine. Just be obsessively detailed with your records - it's way better to over-document than under-document if EDD ever comes knocking.
This is such a helpful breakdown! I love the idea of treating the business like structured part-time work with set "shifts" - that's so much smarter than my current approach of just working whenever I feel like it. The Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday schedule you described sounds perfect for staying under 32 hours while still making meaningful progress on the business. I definitely haven't been tracking my non-billable hours like networking calls and website updates. That's probably where I've been going over without realizing it! Setting up that Sunday alarm to calculate weekly hours is brilliant - I'm going to start doing that immediately. Quick question: when you were doing your daily tracking, did you track time in 15-minute increments or just round to the nearest hour? I want to make sure I'm being detailed enough without going overboard. Also, did EDD ever ask to see your tracking records during your time on benefits, or was it more for your own peace of mind? Thanks for sharing your system - this gives me a much clearer roadmap for managing both the business and UI requirements properly!
Just wanted to add something that helped me recently - if you're getting the "we're experiencing higher than normal call volume" message and getting automatically disconnected, try calling from a different phone number or using a Google Voice number. I noticed that EDD's system sometimes seems to recognize numbers that have called multiple times and boots them faster. Switched to my partner's phone and got through on the 3rd try after being blocked all morning on my regular number. Could be coincidence but worth a shot if you're hitting a wall! Also seconding everyone about having ALL your docs ready - they asked for way more verification than I expected even for a simple pending claim question.
Wow, that's a really interesting tip about using a different phone number! I never would have thought that their system might be flagging numbers that call too frequently. That actually makes a lot of sense though - they probably have some kind of spam protection that kicks in. I've been calling from the same cell phone for days and getting disconnected almost immediately each time. Definitely going to try using my work phone or maybe set up a Google Voice number tomorrow. Thanks for sharing that insight! And yeah, sounds like I need to prepare way more documentation than I originally thought. Better to have everything ready than get through after hours of trying only to be told I need to call back with more info.
This thread is absolutely gold! I've been struggling with a pending claim for over a month and had completely given up after reading outdated info about the noon cutoff. Reading through all these success stories and strategies has totally changed my approach. I'm definitely going to try the claim status line (1-866-333-4606) during that 1-2pm window that several people mentioned, and I'm going to have EVERYTHING ready - SSN, account number, employment history, job search records, the works. The tip about using a different phone number is genius too. I've probably called 40+ times from my cell this week and keep getting the instant disconnect. Going to try my landline tomorrow. Thank you so much to everyone who shared their experiences - you've given me actual hope that I can get this resolved! 🙏
Try accessing the site very early morning like 5am. Thats when it worked for me. Less traffic on their servers then.
Success! Just wanted to update everyone. I ended up using Claimyr to reach an EDD rep this morning (took about 35 mins but WAY better than calling myself all day). The agent explained this is a known issue with their latest system update. They fixed my language preference on their end and reset my account access. I'm now able to log in normally and just completed my certification! For anyone else having this problem, here's what they told me: When the update rolled out, some accounts got stuck in a weird state where the language preference wasn't properly set but the system still tries to force you to select one. The fix has to be done on their end. Thanks everyone for your help!
Wait, I'm confused - are you the same person as the original poster? Your username shows as Ravi Choudhury but the original post was from Amina Sy. Either way, glad someone got this resolved! I'm dealing with the exact same language selection screen issue right now so this gives me hope that Claimyr might be worth trying.
I'm so sorry you're dealing with this - it's absolutely maddening when you need legitimate benefits but can't even access the system! I actually work for a nonprofit that helps people navigate government benefits, and unfortunately EDD identity theft has become epidemic-level common since 2020. A few things that might help based on what I've seen work for our clients: 1. When you file that police report, ask for multiple copies - EDD often "loses" documentation and you'll need to resubmit 2. If you have any old tax returns or W-2s showing your partner's legitimate employment history, bring those to prove he wasn't collecting benefits elsewhere during those years 3. The San Bernardino office actually has a "fraud intake specialist" who works Tuesday-Thursday mornings - if you can get there on one of those days, you're more likely to get someone who really knows the fraud resolution process 4. Keep a detailed log of every call, every person you speak with, and their employee ID numbers if possible - this documentation becomes crucial if the case drags on The fact that the system can't verify his identity is actually a good sign for proving fraud - it means the scammer likely provided fake details that don't match official records. EDD knows this is a red flag for fraudulent accounts. Hang in there - this is fixable, just frustrating to get through the bureaucracy!
Thank you so much for this professional perspective! It's really helpful to hear from someone who works directly with benefits navigation. I didn't realize we should ask for multiple copies of the police report - that's such a practical tip that could save us headaches later. We definitely have tax returns and W-2s going back several years that show his continuous employment, so we'll bring those along. The Tuesday-Thursday morning timing for the fraud intake specialist is incredibly valuable information - we were just planning to show up Monday morning, but it sounds like waiting until Tuesday might actually be more strategic. And I'll absolutely start keeping a detailed log of all our interactions with EDD moving forward. It's somewhat reassuring to know that the identity verification failure is actually evidence in our favor rather than just another roadblock. This whole situation has felt so overwhelming, but with all the specific guidance from you and everyone else in this thread, I'm feeling much more prepared to tackle this systematically. Thank you for taking the time to share your expertise!
I'm really sorry you're going through this stressful situation! As someone who just went through a very similar EDD identity theft case a few months ago, I wanted to share what ultimately worked for me. The combination of going in person AND having the right documentation made all the difference. Here's my specific experience: 1. I went to the San Bernardino office on Hospitality Lane around 7:15 AM on a Tuesday (based on the fraud intake specialist schedule mentioned above) and was seen by 10 AM 2. Brought a "fraud affidavit" that I downloaded and notarized beforehand from EDD's website - this seemed to speed things up significantly 3. Had my partner call that SDI investigator number (909) 383-4680 the same day I was there in person - apparently having both channels working simultaneously helped flag it as urgent 4. The key phrase that got results: I told them I needed to "request a complete SSN purge and system reset due to fraudulent account creation" - this seemed to trigger the right process The whole thing was resolved in about 10 business days, which was way faster than I expected based on horror stories I'd heard. The fraud specialist was actually really knowledgeable and walked me through exactly what had happened (someone had filed a fake PUA claim in 2021 using my info that got rejected, but it left my email/SSN locked in their system). Don't lose hope - this is definitely solvable! The fact that you have all this great advice from the community here puts you way ahead of where I was when I started this process.
This is incredibly helpful - thank you for sharing such detailed specifics about what actually worked for you! The "complete SSN purge and system reset due to fraudulent account creation" phrase is exactly the kind of insider language that can make all the difference when dealing with bureaucracy. I'm definitely going to download and notarize that fraud affidavit beforehand - that's such a smart preparation step. The timing strategy of going Tuesday morning around 7:15 AM to catch the fraud intake specialist, combined with having someone call the SDI investigator line the same day, sounds like the perfect coordinated approach. 10 business days for resolution is amazing compared to the months-long horror stories we've been hearing! It's so reassuring to know that when you get to the right people with the right documentation and language, this can actually be resolved efficiently. The fact that they could explain exactly what happened (the rejected 2021 PUA claim locking up the system) also gives me hope that they'll be able to identify and fix whatever fraudulent activity is blocking my partner's legitimate SDI application. This whole thread has been a masterclass in navigating EDD fraud issues. Thank you for taking the time to share your successful experience - it's giving me real confidence that we can get this sorted out!
Lukas Fitzgerald
I had my DE 4800 interview about 3 weeks ago when my hours got cut at a hotel from 40 to 20 hours per week. Everyone here has already given you amazing advice, but I wanted to add one thing that really helped me stay calm during the call: The interviewer started by explaining exactly what the DE 4800 form is for and why they do these interviews. She said something like "This is just to verify that your reduced hours weren't voluntary and that you meet the eligibility requirements for partial unemployment benefits." Hearing that upfront made me realize it really is just a fact-checking conversation, not an interrogation. My interview took about 19 minutes and covered all the same questions others mentioned. The most important thing was having specific dates ready - they asked for the exact date my hours were reduced, not just "last month" or "a few weeks ago." One small tip: if you get nervous and forget something during the call, it's totally fine to say "Can I double-check that date for you?" They're patient and understand people get anxious. I had to look up my manager's exact title mid-interview and the interviewer was completely understanding about it. Your situation with the restaurant restructuring sounds very straightforward - employer decision, not your choice, legitimate business reason. You should be good to go! The fact that you're preparing this thoroughly shows you'll handle it just fine.
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Keith Davidson
•This is exactly what I needed to hear! Knowing that they actually explain what the DE 4800 is for at the start of the call makes it feel so much less intimidating. I was imagining them just diving right into tough questions without any context. And your point about it being okay to double-check information during the call is really reassuring - I was worried about sounding unprepared if I had to look something up. I've been writing down all the key dates and details thanks to everyone's advice here, but it's good to know they're understanding if you need a moment to verify something. Everyone's experiences have been so helpful in preparing me for this. Really appreciate you taking the time to share what worked for you!
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Liv Park
I went through a DE 4800 interview about 5 weeks ago when my hours at a movie theater got cut from 35 to 16 hours due to slow ticket sales. Just wanted to share my experience since everyone's advice here is spot on! **What really helped me:** - I created a simple timeline document with bullet points: hire date, normal hours period, exact date of reduction, current status - Had my assistant manager's name and phone number written down - Kept the group text where they announced the hour cuts pulled up on my phone - Made a list of my job search efforts (applied to 3 other theaters, signed up for Indeed alerts, asked friends about openings) **The actual call:** - They called 10 minutes early (!) so definitely be ready before your scheduled time - Lasted about 14 minutes - very professional and straightforward - The interviewer was actually really understanding about the entertainment industry struggles right now - Asked standard questions: when did hours get cut, who decided, was it your choice, are you available for full-time, what are you doing to find more work Got approved 3 business days later! Since your employer made the decision to cut hours for business reasons, you should be in great shape. The restaurant industry cuts are super common right now so they'll totally understand your situation. Just have your facts organized and stay calm - you've got this! Let us know how it goes on Thursday! 🤞
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