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Brielle Johnson

Can you get unemployment for job abandonment in California EDD?

So I'm in kind of a weird spot and I'm not sure if I even qualify for benefits. I walked off the job about three weeks ago - didn't formally quit, didn't get fired, just stopped showing up after a really bad situation with my supervisor. HR never called me, I never submitted a resignation letter, nothing. My last day I just... left mid-shift and never went back. Now I'm broke and wondering if California EDD would even consider my claim or if job abandonment automatically disqualifies you. I've heard mixed things - some people say it's treated the same as quitting without cause, others say it depends on the circumstances. Has anyone actually been through this? Did you get approved or denied?

This is actually a really common question and the answer isn't as simple as yes or no. California EDD treats job abandonment similarly to a voluntary quit - meaning you're not automatically disqualified but the burden of proof is on YOU to show there was good cause for leaving. Good cause typically means things like unsafe working conditions, harassment, significant changes to your pay or hours, or health issues. The key thing is documenting whatever drove you to leave. Did your supervisor do something specific? Was there a pattern of behavior? EDD will ask you to explain the circumstances during adjudication.

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My supervisor was basically creating a hostile work environment - screaming at me in front of customers, refusing to approve my schedule changes for a medical appointment, stuff like that. Does that count as good cause?

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Yes, hostile work environment and denial of medical accommodations are both factors EDD considers when evaluating good cause for leaving. You'll want to document as much as possible - any texts, emails, witness names, dates of incidents.

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i quit for similar reasons last year and got denied first time then appealed and won so don't give up if they deny you

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filing now is the right move regardless of what you think the outcome will be. The clock starts ticking on your benefit year from the date you file, not the date you stopped working. If you wait and then get approved, you lose those weeks. Just file and let EDD make the determination. Worst case you get denied and appeal.

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I didn't realize the benefit year started from filing date. Filing today then.

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same advice I got - file first, ask questions later basically lol

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Been through the California EDD adjudication process twice now. When you file and EDD sees you left voluntarily (which job abandonment is categorized as), your claim goes into adjudication automatically. They'll send you a questionnaire asking you to explain why you left. THIS IS YOUR CHANCE. Be thorough, be specific, include dates, incidents, names. Vague answers like 'hostile environment' without specifics will get you denied. Think of it like writing a legal brief - the more documented evidence you can tie to California EDD's definition of good cause, the better your shot. I know it's frustrating but the adjudication questionnaire is genuinely your best opportunity to make your case.

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How long does adjudication usually take after I submit the questionnaire?

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Typically 3-6 weeks in my experience but I've heard of people waiting longer. Keep filing your weekly claims during adjudication even though you won't get paid right away - if you're approved those weeks get back-paid.

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THIS. do not stop filing weekly claims during adjudication. I stopped because I thought there was no point and then when I got approved I lost like 4 weeks of benefits. Learned that lesson the hard way

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I was in almost the exact same situation last year - walked out after my manager threw a clipboard across the room during a meeting. I tried calling California EDD probably 40 times over two weeks and could never get through to explain my situation before they made a determination. Someone in another thread mentioned Claimyr (claimyr.com) and it genuinely changed everything for me. There's a video demo at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 that shows how it works - basically it gets you connected to an actual EDD agent instead of sitting on hold for hours or getting disconnected. I was able to talk to someone who walked me through exactly what to document for my good cause claim. Got approved eventually.

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Seriously considering this because I've tried calling EDD twice and got disconnected both times. Did you have to do anything complicated to use it?

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Nope, pretty straightforward. I was skeptical at first honestly but after getting hung up on for the fifth time I was willing to try anything. Being able to actually TALK to an EDD agent and ask specific questions about how they'd view my situation was really valuable.

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gonna look into this. been trying to reach EDD about my own claim for a week now

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ok real talk though. job abandonment is rough to get approved. not trying to discourage you but just be realistic going in. EDD's bar for 'good cause' voluntary quit is pretty high. you basically have to show you tried to fix the problem before leaving. did you ever report your supervisor to HR? document anything? file any complaints? if the answer is no then EDD is gonna say you had other options besides abandoning the job

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I didn't go to HR because honestly HR at this company was a joke - the supervisor's wife worked in HR. Would that matter?

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Actually yes - if HR had a conflict of interest that made internal reporting futile, that can be argued as part of your good cause. Document that relationship and explain why reporting wasn't a viable option.

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ok fair point, didn't think about the HR conflict angle. that could actually help your case

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I'm confused about something - if you never officially quit does EDD even know you left voluntarily? Like couldn't your employer just say they let you go? Not suggesting lying obviously just genuinely confused how this works

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EDD contacts the employer as part of the claims process and the employer reports the separation reason. If the employer reports job abandonment or no-call no-show, EDD will see that. Employers and claimants sometimes report different separation reasons which is actually one of the main things that triggers adjudication.

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oh wow I had no idea EDD contacts the employer. that's actually really important to know going in

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yeah my employer and I told completely different stories about why I left and it caused like a 7 week adjudication delay. make sure your account matches whatever paper trail exists

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Something important that gets overlooked: even if California EDD denies your claim for voluntary quit without good cause, you have 30 days from the mailing date of the Notice of Determination to file an appeal. Appeals are heard by an Administrative Law Judge who looks at the evidence fresh - they don't just rubber stamp EDD's original decision. Plenty of people get denied by EDD and then win on appeal. The appeal process is genuinely more claimant-friendly than the initial adjudication in my opinion.

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Good to know there's a backup plan. What kind of evidence do they want at the appeal hearing?

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Any written documentation of the conditions you left because of - texts, emails, HR records, witness statements if you can get them, medical records if health was involved. The ALJ will also let you tell your story verbally which is different from the written questionnaire EDD gives you initially.

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won my appeal after being denied by EDD. the ALJ was way more understanding than I expected. don't give up if you get denied

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wait does this apply to gig workers too or just regular employees because I drove for a delivery app and just stopped accepting orders one day

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Gig workers have a different path - you'd need to establish you were misclassified as an independent contractor rather than an employee for regular UI. That's a separate and more complex process. The good cause voluntary quit analysis in this thread mainly applies to traditional W2 employment.

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ugh of course it's more complicated. thanks for clarifying though

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I got unemployment after leaving a job under bad circumstances but mine was a little different - I was able to get my employer to agree to call it a layoff because they knew the conditions were bad and I think they didn't want the HR complaint I was threatening. Is there any way OP could negotiate with their former employer about how the separation gets reported to EDD?

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Honestly hadn't thought of that. My relationship with the employer is pretty torched at this point but maybe worth one conversation.

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it's worth trying, the worst they can say is no. frame it as you not wanting to escalate anything further rather than as a demand

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this actually works sometimes. employers don't always fight unemployment claims even when they technically could

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The job search requirements start immediately once you're receiving benefits FYI. You need to do 3 job search activities per week and log them in your weekly certification. A lot of people coming off voluntary quit situations aren't mentally ready to job search right away but EDD doesn't care - the clock starts immediately. Just heads up so you don't get hit with a disqualification on top of everything else.

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3 activities per week - does applying for jobs count or do they want specific things like networking events or interviews?

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Applying for jobs counts and is actually the most straightforward way to meet the requirement. Attending a job fair, networking, or doing an interview all count too. You log these in UI Online when you certify for your weekly claim.

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also register with CalJOBS if you haven't already - it's technically required and EDD does check it

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BEEN FIGHTING EDD FOR TWO MONTHS OVER MY VOLUNTARY QUIT CLAIM AND I AM EXHAUSTED. The system is designed to deny people first and hope they go away. I did everything right - documented the harassment, filled out the questionnaire perfectly, submitted evidence - still denied. Now I'm in appeals and I've been trying to reach EDD to understand why my specific evidence wasn't sufficient and I CANNOT GET A HUMAN ON THE PHONE

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I hear you - this is exactly when I used Claimyr to get through to EDD. claimyr.com. Check out the demo video at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10. After weeks of getting nowhere by calling directly it was a relief to actually reach someone who could explain the specific reasoning behind the denial. Might help you understand what to shore up for your appeal.

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trying this right now because I'm at my wit's end honestly

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Also - for your appeal, you don't necessarily need EDD to explain the denial to build your case. The Notice of Determination should cite which specific section of UI code you were denied under, and you can build your appeal around directly addressing that language

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One thing I want to clarify for OP and anyone else reading - 'job abandonment' isn't a specific legal category under California UI code. EDD classifies separation reasons as either discharge or voluntary quit. Job abandonment typically gets coded as voluntary quit. This matters because the analysis EDD applies (did you have good cause?) is the voluntary quit analysis, not some separate job abandonment standard. Don't let anyone tell you job abandonment is automatically disqualifying - that's not how California EDD works.

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This is really helpful context. So I shouldn't even use the term 'job abandonment' in my questionnaire - just frame it as leaving due to hostile working conditions?

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Exactly. Use the language that frames your situation in terms of good cause - hostile work environment, unsafe conditions, failure to provide medical accommodation. 'Job abandonment' is your employer's characterization. Your characterization is that you left due to intolerable conditions that gave you good cause.

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This is accurate and important. The framing matters enormously in how EDD evaluates your claim.

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kinda off topic but reading this thread made me realize I need to actually appeal my own denial from 6 months ago. thought the 30 days had passed but someone above said 30 days from mailing date - I need to check my paperwork

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Unfortunately if it's been 6 months the appeal window has almost certainly closed. However you can potentially file a new claim if you have qualifying wages in a new base period, or look into whether there are any extraordinary circumstances that could get the appeal window extended - that's rare but does happen.

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figured as much but worth checking. thanks

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my cousin told me that if you abandon a job you have to wait 10 weeks before benefits start even if you get approved - is that true??

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There's a kernel of truth there but it's more nuanced. If EDD determines you voluntarily quit without good cause, there's a disqualification period - not a flat 10 weeks. If they find you DID have good cause, there's no penalty waiting period. The 10 week figure your cousin mentioned might be from an outdated rule or a misremembering. The actual disqualification for voluntary quit without good cause under current California UI code can vary.

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ok so it's not definitely 10 weeks. good to know because I've been scared to file for my own situation thinking I'd have to wait forever regardless

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File regardless. Waiting only hurts you. Even if there's a disqualification period, you want your benefit year established and you want those weeks being counted.

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Something that helped me in my adjudication - I wrote a really detailed timeline document, like literally day by day of the incidents with my supervisor, and submitted it with my questionnaire even though they didn't specifically ask for it. My EDD rep later mentioned it was helpful. Go above and beyond what they ask for.

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That's a great idea. I'm going to start building that timeline today while everything is still fresh in my memory.

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Do it now seriously. Details get fuzzy fast and specific dates and descriptions are so much more credible than vague recollections

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does anyone know if you can get benefits if you abandon a job you only had for like 3 weeks? wondering if you even have enough work history

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Work history requirements for California UI are based on wages earned during your base period - which is the 12 months ending about 5-6 months before you file. A 3-week job is probably not enough on its own but if you have wages from other jobs in that base period you may still qualify. EDD calculates your weekly benefit amount from your highest earning quarter in the base period.

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oh ok so it's not just my most recent job that matters. that actually makes me feel better I've had multiple jobs this year

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I went through basically this exact scenario eight months ago. Walked out of a restaurant job after the owner grabbed my arm during an argument. Filed with EDD, went into adjudication, got approved after 5 weeks. The physical contact by my employer was considered clear good cause. What pushed it over the line for me was that I called EDD and asked an agent directly what language to use to describe the incident in my questionnaire. Getting that specific guidance before submitting was huge.

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How did you actually get through to an EDD agent? That seems like the hardest part right now.

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I used Claimyr - claimyr.com - after failing to get through on my own for days. There's a walkthrough at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10. Honestly the ability to ask an EDD agent for guidance on how to frame my questionnaire response before I submitted it probably made the difference between getting approved and denied.

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Ok I'm definitely using this. The questionnaire is what I'm most nervous about and getting real guidance from an EDD agent before submitting sounds incredibly valuable.

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Final note for OP and others - whatever happens with your initial determination, keep records of EVERYTHING. Every phone call (date, time, agent ID if they give it), every document you submit, every notice you receive. The appeals process rewards people who can show a clear paper trail. I've seen people win appeals on procedural grounds because EDD couldn't show they followed their own process correctly. The moment you file your claim, start keeping a dedicated folder - physical or digital - for everything related to it.

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This whole thread has been incredibly helpful. I went from feeling like my situation was hopeless to actually having a clear action plan. Filing today, building my timeline document, planning to call EDD through Claimyr before submitting my questionnaire. Thank you all.

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Good luck - your situation actually sounds like it has a decent shot at good cause approval given what you've described. Stay organized and don't stop filing weekly claims no matter what.

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Come back and update us. Threads like this help the next person searching for the same thing.

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