CA Disability Benefits vs. Paid Sick Leave confusion - employer limiting my surgery recovery days
I'm completely confused about my rights here in California. I'm scheduled for a minor surgery next month that requires 3-5 days of recovery plus weekly follow-ups for about a month. My doctor said it's not severe enough to qualify for SDI (state disability), so I requested to use my accumulated Paid Sick Leave from work instead. My boss is now saying they'll "only approve sick days for Tuesday-Thursday" and that "Mondays and Fridays require extra documentation" because they think I'm trying to create long weekends! This feels illegal but I don't know if this is an EDD issue, Labor Board issue, or something else? Has anyone dealt with an employer restricting WHEN you can use sick leave? What agency handles paid sick leave disputes in California? I'm stressed about the surgery already without this added drama.
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GalacticGuardian
omg this is SO typical of california employers!!! they always try to get away with this crap. its definitely ILLEGAL for them to restrict which days you can use PSL on - paid sick leave is protected by law and they cannot interfere with your right to use it. my boss tried this same garbage last year when i needed sinus surgery. contact the labor commissioner's office ASAP!!!! they handle all paid sick leave violations.
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Luca Bianchi
•Thanks for the quick response! I wasn't sure if PSL enforcement fell under EDD or somewhere else. Do you happen to know if I need to file anything with them before my surgery date, or can I wait to see if my employer actually denies the specific days?
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Nia Harris
This isn't an EDD issue at all actually. Paid Sick Leave is enforced by the Department of Industrial Relations/Labor Commissioner's Office. You can file a wage claim with them if your employer denies your legally protected sick leave. But honestly just telling your boss you know your rights might be enough to make them back down.
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Mateo Gonzalez
•i had similar surgery last yr and ended up just taking the days anyway. my boss threatened to write me up but when i mentioned the labor board they backed off real quick lol. stand ur ground!!!
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Aisha Ali
I'm going thru something similar and I'm so stressed. My doctor said my condition wasnt severe enough for SDI but I need 2 weeks off work. My boss is only letting me take 3 days of sick time and says I need to use vacation for the rest. Is that legal?? This whole system is confusing.
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Ethan Moore
•That depends on how much accrued sick leave you have. California law requires employers to provide at least 3 days (24 hours) of paid sick leave per year. If you've already used your minimum required PSL, they can legally require you to use vacation time for additional days. However, if you have more accrued sick time available, they generally can't force you to use vacation time instead. Check your employee handbook for your company's specific policy on extended medical leave.
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Yuki Nakamura
This is definitely NOT an EDD issue. EDD handles unemployment and state disability (SDI). For paid sick leave disputes, you need to contact the California Labor Commissioner's Office (also called the Division of Labor Standards Enforcement or DLSE). They handle all workplace rights violations including sick leave. Your employer cannot dictate which specific days you're allowed to use sick leave for legitimate medical purposes. That's a clear violation of California's Healthy Workplaces, Healthy Families Act. Document everything in writing (emails are best) and if they continue, file a complaint with the Labor Commissioner. Also, depending on the nature of your surgery, you might be eligible for job-protected leave under CFRA (California Family Rights Act) even if you don't qualify for paid SDI benefits. Worth looking into if your recovery might take longer than expected.
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Luca Bianchi
•Thank you for this detailed explanation! I'll start documenting everything. My employer has been communicating verbally about this so far, so I'll send an email summarizing our conversation and requesting my sick days formally. That's a great tip about CFRA too - I hadn't even thought about that angle.
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StarSurfer
While this isn't directly EDD-related, it's important to understand the difference between SDI and PSL in California: 1. SDI (State Disability Insurance) is administered by EDD for longer/more serious medical conditions 2. PSL (Paid Sick Leave) is enforced by the Labor Commissioner's Office for shorter illnesses/medical care For your specific situation, you should file a complaint with the Labor Commissioner if your employer denies your request. California law specifically prohibits employers from denying valid sick leave requests or creating policies that discourage employees from using sick leave (like restricting which days of the week you can take). Here's the form you need: https://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/HowToFileWageClaim.htm One important thing to know - make your request in writing (email) and keep copies of all communications. If they verbally deny you, follow up with an email summarizing what they said.
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Luca Bianchi
•Thanks for breaking down the difference! I think I was confused because both involve medical leave. I'll definitely make sure to get everything in writing going forward.
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Ethan Moore
Everyone is correct that this isn't an EDD issue, but I want to add something important: if your surgery ends up requiring more time off than expected, you might qualify for SDI after all. Many people don't realize that you can apply for SDI benefits even after you've started using paid sick leave if your condition worsens or recovery takes longer. For your current issue, you should: 1. Submit your PSL request in writing (email) with doctor's note attached 2. If denied, remind employer of California Labor Code section 246.5(a) which prohibits requiring employees to find replacements or restricting when sick leave can be used 3. File a complaint with the Labor Commissioner if they persist Best of luck with your surgery!
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Aisha Ali
•wait you can apply for SDI after youve already started recovery??? this is news to me! my doctor originally said my recovery would be 1 week but now its been 3 weeks and im out of sick time. can i still apply for sdi now???
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Carmen Reyes
Im in HR and ur boss is wrong!!! CA paid sick leave law says employers CANNOT dictate which days employees use PSL or require more documentation for certain days of the week. They can ask for a doctors note if that's their policy but it must apply equally to ALL days. This is a common violation and the Labor Commissioner takes it very seriously. I've seen employers fined thousands for this exact thing.
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Luca Bianchi
•It's so helpful to hear from someone in HR! Do you know if there's a specific section of the law I can reference when talking to my boss? They're a small business and might genuinely not understand the law rather than trying to be difficult intentionally.
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GalacticGuardian
BTW if you need to actually talk to someone at the Labor Commissioner's office about this, good luck getting through on the phone... took me WEEKS of calling when I had my issue. I finally used this service called Claimyr that got me through to a live person at the Labor Commissioner in like 15 minutes. Their website is claimyr.com - they have a video showing how it works here: https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10?si=TSwYbu_GOwYzt9km - saved me so much frustration. They can connect you to pretty much any CA government agency including EDD which is how I found them originally.
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Luca Bianchi
•Oh wow, that's good to know! I was worried about the phone tag game with government agencies. I'll check out that service if I need to speak directly with someone. Thanks for the tip!
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StarSurfer
One more thing to consider: check if your employer is large enough to be covered by FMLA/CFRA (50+ employees). If so, your surgery and recovery might qualify for job-protected leave even if it doesn't qualify for SDI. This would protect your job while you recover, though it doesn't necessarily provide additional paid time beyond your PSL. The distinction between these different types of leave protections can be confusing.
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Luca Bianchi
•Unfortunately we're a small business with only about 20 employees, so I don't think FMLA would apply in my case. But it's good information to know for the future!
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Yuki Nakamura
Just to clarify for everyone: There are multiple types of medical leave protection in California, and they're enforced by different agencies: - SDI (State Disability Insurance): Paid benefit for longer disabilities, administered by EDD - PSL (Paid Sick Leave): Required for all employees, enforced by Labor Commissioner - FMLA/CFRA: Job protection for medical issues, enforced by DFEH/EEOC The OP's issue is specifically about PSL, which falls under the Labor Commissioner's jurisdiction. Their employer cannot restrict which days they use PSL if it's for a legitimate medical purpose like surgery recovery.
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Mateo Gonzalez
•thx for breaking it down!! i always mix these up and end up calling the wrong agency lol
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