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Ethan Scott

Can I use FMLA and CFRA back-to-back for caring for terminally ill parent?

I just found out my mother has stage 4 cancer and her doctors are saying she has maybe 4-6 months. I need to take time off work to care for her through treatments and eventually hospice. My HR dept mentioned both FMLA and CFRA leave but I'm confused about how they work together. Do I take them at the same time (giving me 12 weeks total) or can I use them back-to-back for 24 weeks? Also, can I apply for PFL benefits during either of these leaves? I work for a company with about 85 employees in Sacramento and have been there for 3 years. This is all so overwhelming and I'm trying to figure out the maximum time I can take while still having job protection.

Lola Perez

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I'm so sorry about your mother. For most situations, FMLA and CFRA run concurrently (at the same time), not back-to-back, giving you 12 weeks of protected leave total. Both protect your job while you're out caring for a family member with a serious health condition. However, you CAN apply for PFL benefits through EDD for up to 8 weeks to provide care for your ill family member. PFL provides wage replacement (about 60-70% of your salary) but no job protection on its own - that's what FMLA/CFRA provide. Make sure you get the DE2501F form completed by your mother's doctor. Wishing you strength during this difficult time.

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Ethan Scott

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Thank you for the information. So if I understand correctly, I'll have 12 weeks of job-protected leave through FMLA/CFRA, and during 8 of those weeks, I can receive partial pay through PFL? Do I apply for FMLA/CFRA through my employer and then separately apply for PFL through EDD?

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When my dad was dying from cancer last year, I took FMLA and CFRA at the same time (12 wks total) plus got PFL benefits for 8 of those weeks. You'll need to get both the FMLA/CFRA paperwork from your HR department AND file for PFL with EDD. They're completely separate systems! The medical certification form is similar for both though. Just be prepared for the EDD process to be frustrating - took almost 3 weeks to get my first payment.

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Riya Sharma

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omg the edd was THE WORST when I tried to get pfl for my mom. kept saying they never received the doctors form even tho it was faxed 3 TIMES!! ended up having to mail it certified. so frustrating when ur already dealing with a sick family member!!

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Santiago Diaz

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I'm a benefits coordinator and want to add one important detail - while FMLA and CFRA usually run concurrently for 12 weeks total, there are a few specific situations where they can be taken separately. However, caring for a parent with a serious health condition isn't one of those situations. They would run concurrently in your case. For PFL benefits, you can receive approximately 60-70% of your wages for up to 8 weeks. The application process is through EDD, not your employer. You'll need to complete a DE2501F form with your mother's medical provider. Your employer cannot deny your leave request if you qualify for FMLA/CFRA protection. One suggestion: consider whether you want to take your leave continuously or intermittently. With a 4-6 month prognosis, you might want to spread out your 12 weeks of job protection rather than using it all at once.

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Ethan Scott

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Thank you for the suggestion about intermittent leave. That's actually a really good idea since her condition will likely get worse over time. I'll talk to HR about how to structure that. Do you know if PFL can also be taken intermittently or does it have to be all at once?

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Santiago Diaz

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Yes, PFL can absolutely be taken intermittently! You can break up your 8 weeks of PFL benefits over your 12-month claim period. Just be aware that each intermittent period needs to be at least 1 day. When filing intermittently, you'll need to certify each period separately with EDD. This flexibility is specifically designed for situations like yours where caregiving needs may vary or increase over time.

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Debra Bai

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Evryone here is wrong FMLA and CFRA can be used back to back in specific situations!!!! My HR rep told me this. But I think its only for certain military situations or maybe pregnancy stuff so probably doesnt apply to you. But definitely use that PFL for the 8 weeks to get paid cuz I made the mistake of not doing that when my dad was sick and I'm still paying off credit card debt from covering bills during that time. Also make sure u submit everything on time cuz they will deny u for any little mistake and then ull have to appeal. EDD is so messed up its like they dont want u to get ur benefits!!!!!

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Santiago Diaz

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Just to clarify - you're partially correct. FMLA and CFRA can run separately in specific scenarios, but these primarily involve pregnancy disability, certain military caregiver situations, or when care is for a registered domestic partner (who isn't covered under FMLA). For parent care as described in this situation, they would run concurrently. But your point about utilizing PFL benefits is very important.

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Ethan Scott

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Thank you everyone for all the helpful information. I met with HR today and they confirmed FMLA/CFRA will run concurrently in my situation, giving me 12 weeks of job protection. I'm going to apply for PFL for 8 of those weeks to help with income while I'm out. They also said I could take the time intermittently, which will help me spread out the 12 weeks over the coming months as my mom's condition changes. I'll be sure to carefully follow all the paperwork requirements for both my employer and EDD. This community has been so helpful in a really difficult time - thank you.

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Lola Perez

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You're making all the right moves during an incredibly challenging time. One additional suggestion - keep detailed records of all communications with both your employer and EDD. Note dates, times, who you spoke with, and what was discussed. If you submit anything by fax, keep the confirmation page. These records can be invaluable if you encounter any issues with your leave or benefits. Sending strength to you and your family.

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Callum Savage

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I'm so sorry to hear about your mother's diagnosis. This is such a difficult time for your family. Just wanted to add one more thing that might help - since you mentioned your mom has 4-6 months and you're planning to use leave intermittently, you might want to also look into whether your company offers any additional bereavement leave policies. Some employers provide separate bereavement time that wouldn't count against your FMLA/CFRA allotment. Also, if your mom becomes eligible for hospice care, many hospice organizations have family support services and resources that can help you navigate this journey. You're doing everything right by getting the paperwork sorted out early. Take care of yourself too during this process.

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That's really thoughtful advice about bereavement leave - I hadn't even thought about that. I'll definitely ask HR if we have any separate bereavement policies that wouldn't count against my FMLA time. The hospice resources suggestion is also really helpful. I know it's still early, but having that information ahead of time will probably make things easier when we get to that point. Thank you for thinking of all these details during such an overwhelming situation.

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NebulaNinja

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I'm really sorry about your mother's diagnosis. Going through this myself right now with my father-in-law who has pancreatic cancer. One thing I wish someone had told me earlier - when you file for PFL, make sure your mom's doctor is very specific on the DE2501F form about her need for care. Don't let them just write something vague like "patient has cancer." EDD wants to see details about why she specifically needs assistance with daily activities, transportation to treatments, etc. My first claim got delayed because the doctor's form was too general. Also, if your mom qualifies for Medicare or has other insurance changes during treatment, that might affect some of the medical documentation timing. Just a heads up to stay on top of all the moving pieces. You're being really smart to plan this out in advance.

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